Re: [Users] [Engine-devel] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal setup
--_1938ECEA-3E06-46F4-B913-6EAE13EA5830_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" SSBkaWQgc29tZSB0ZXN0aW5nIHdpdGggRmVkb3JhIDE4ICh3YWl0aW5nIGZvciB0aGUgRmVkb3Jh IDE5IGR2ZCB0byBmaW5pc2ggZG93bmxvYWRpbmcpIGFuZCBJIHRoaW5rIHRoYXQgdGhlIGJlaGF2 aW9yIHdhcyB0aGUgc2FtZSB3YXkgaW4gRmVkb3JhIDE4LiBJbiBGZWRvcmEgMTggd2hlbiBpbnN0 YWxsaW5nIGZyb20gRFZEIGlmIHlvdSBzZWxlY3Qg4oCcTWluaW1hbCBJbnN0YWxs4oCdLCB5b3Ug ZG8gbm90IGdldCB0YXIuDQoNCiANCg0KSG93ZXZlciwgaWYgeW91IHNlbGVjdCDigJxNaW5pbWFs IGluc3RhbGzigJ0gYW5kIOKAnHN0YW5kYXJk4oCdIHVuZGVyIHRoZSBhZGQtb24gbGlzdCwgeW91 ICpkbyogZ2V0IHRhci4gQW5kIGlmIG1lbW9yeSBzZXJ2ZXMgSSBsZWFybmVkIHRoZSBoYXJkIHdh eSBpbiBGZWRvcmEgMTggdGhhdCBhIGxvdCBvZiBmYW1pbGlhciBjb21tYW5kcyBhcmUgbWlzc2lu ZyBpbiBtaW5pbWFsIGluc3RhbGwgd2l0aG91dCB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQgYWRkLW9uIGl0ZW1zIGlu Y2x1ZGluZyDigJxpZmNvbmZpZ+KAnS4gWWVhLCB5b3UgY2Fu4oCZdCBldmVuIGVhc2lseSB0ZWxs IHdoYXQgeW91ciBJUCBhZGRyZXNzIGlzIS4uLiB1bmxlc3MgeW91IGFyZSB1c2VkIHRvIHRoZSBp cCBjb21tYW5kLg0KDQoNCiANCg0KSXMgdGhlcmUgYW55IG90aGVyIGNvbW1hbmRzIHRoYXQgYXJl IG1pc3Npbmcgb24gdGhlIOKAnG1pbmltYWzigJ0gaW5zdGFsbCB0aGF0IGFyZSBuZWVkZWQ/IFdv dWxkIGl0IGJlIGVhc2llciB0byBtZW50aW9uIGluIHRoZSBpbnN0YWxsIGRpcmVjdGlvbnMgdG8g dXNlIHRoZSBzdGFuZGFyZCBhZGQtb24gaWYgc2VsZWN0aW5nIHRoZSBtaW5pbWFsIHBhY2thZ2Ug c2V0IGZvciBob3N0IGRlcGxveW1lbnQ/DQoNCiANCg0KSnVzdCB0aG91Z2h0cy4gSSBhbHNvIHdv bmRlciBpZiBpdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBwb3NzaWJsZSB0byBpbmNsdWRlIHRhciBhcyBhIGRlcGVuZGVu Y3kgZm9yIHRoZSBSUE1zIChsaWtlIG92aXJ0LWVuZ2luZSBvciB2ZHNtKSBzbyB3aGVuIGluc3Rh bGxlZCB1c2luZyBhIHBhY2thZ2UgbWFuYWdlciwgdGFyIHdvdWxkIGJlIGNoZWNrZWQgZm9yLg0K DQogDQoNCi0gTmljaw0KDQogDQoNCg0KRnJvbTogQWxvbiBCYXItTGV2DQpTZW50OiDigI5BdWd1 c3TigI4g4oCONeKAjiwg4oCOMjAxMyDigI424oCOOuKAjjAy4oCOIOKAjlBNDQpUbzogdXNlcnMs IGFyY2gsIGVuZ2luZS1kZXZlbA0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtVc2Vyc10gW0VuZ2luZS1kZXZlbF0g W0ZlZWRiYWNrIHJlcXVpcmVkXVtob3N0LWRlcGxveV0gRmVkb3JhLTE5IG1pc3NlcyB0YXIgYXQg bWluaW1hbCBzZXR1cA0KDQoNCg0KSGVsbG8gQWdhaW4sDQoNCkkgdGVuZCB0byBrZWVwIHN0YXRl IGFzLWlzLCByZXF1aXJlIHRhciBhdCBob3N0IG1hY2hpbmUuDQoNCldob2V2ZXIgaW5zdGFsbHMg RmVkb3JhIG1pbmltYWwgc2hvdWxkIGluc3RhbGwgdGFyIG1hbnVhbGx5Lg0KDQpJIGhvcGUgRmVk b3JhIHBlb3BsZSB3aWxsIGFkZCB0YXIgcGVyIHNvbWUgb2YgdGhlIHJlcXVlc3RzLCBhcyB0YXIg aXMgaW1wb3J0YW50IHV0aWxpdHkgaW4gKk5JWCBlbnZpcm9ubWVudC4NCg0KSSBkbyBub3QgdGhp bmsgdGhhdCB0aGUgZXh0cmEgY29tcGxleGl0eSBpcyByZXF1aXJlZC4NCg0KSWYgeW91IHN0cm9u Z2x5IHRoaW5rIG90aGVyd2lzZSwgdGhlbiBJIHByZWZlciB0byBtZXJnZSB0aGUgc2VsZiBleHRy YWN0aW5nIHB5dGhvbiBzY3JpcHQuDQoNClNwZWFrIG5vdywgYW5kIGVtcGhhc2lzLg0KDQpSZWdh cmRzLA0KQWxvbiBCYXItTGV2Lg0KDQotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tDQo+IEZy b206ICJBbG9uIEJhci1MZXYiIDxhbG9uYmxAcmVkaGF0LmNvbT4NCj4gVG86ICJ1c2VycyIgPHVz ZXJzQG92aXJ0Lm9yZz4sICJhcmNoIiA8YXJjaEBvdmlydC5vcmc+LCAiZW5naW5lLWRldmVsIiA8 ZW5naW5lLWRldmVsQG92aXJ0Lm9yZz4NCj4gQ2M6ICJKdWFuIEhlcm5hbmRleiIgPGpoZXJuYW5k QHJlZGhhdC5jb20+DQo+IFNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIEp1bHkgMzAsIDIwMTMgNDoxMjowMyBQTQ0K PiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW0VuZ2luZS1kZXZlbF0gW1VzZXJzXSBbRmVlZGJhY2sgcmVxdWlyZWRd W2hvc3QtZGVwbG95XSBGZWRvcmEtMTkgbWlzc2VzIHRhciBhdCBtaW5pbWFsIHNldHVwDQo+IA0K PiBIZWxsbyBBbGwsDQo+IA0KPiBTdGFydGluZyB0aGUgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBhZ2Fpbi4uLg0KPiAN Cj4gSSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIHJlY2VpdmUgZmVlZGJhY2sgcmVnYXJkaW5nIGhvdyB3ZSBzaG91 bGQgY29wZSB3aXRoIGEgc3RhdGUNCj4gcHJlc2VudGVkIHRvIHVzZSBieSBGZWRvcmEuDQo+IA0K PiBGZWRvcmEtMTkgbWluaW1hbCBzZXR1cCBkb2VzIG5vdCBpbnN0YWxsIHRhciB1dGlsaXR5IHdo aWNoIGlzIHJlcXVpcmVkIHRvDQo+IGRlcGxveSBmaWxlcyBkdXJpbmcgdGhlIGhvc3QtZGVwbG95 IHByb2Nlc3MgKEhvc3RzLT5BZGQgSG9zdCkuDQo+IA0KPiBJIGd1ZXNzIGJlY2F1c2Ugb2YgMi44 TSBpbiBzaXplIChpbmNsdWRpbmcgdHJhbnNsYXRpb25zKSAtLSBhIHN0YW5kYXJkDQo+IGNvbW1v bmx5IHVzZWQgdXRpbGl0eSB3YXMgcmVtb3ZlZC4NCj4gDQo+IFRoZXJlIGFyZSB0aHJlZSBhbHRl cm5hdGl2ZXMgOg0KPiANCj4gMS4gSW5zdHJ1Y3QgdXNlcnMgd2hvIGFyZSB1c2luZyBtaW5pbWFs IGluc3RhbGxhdGlvbnMgdG8gbWFudWFsbHkgaW5zdGFsbCB0YXINCj4gdXRpbGl0eSBqdXN0IGxp a2UgdGhleSBjb25maWd1cmUgcmVwb3NpdG9yeSwgZG5zLCBldGMuLg0KPiANCj4gQmVuZWZpdDog c2ltcGxpY2l0eS4NCj4gQmVuZWZpdDogdXNlIHN0YW5kYXJkIHRvb2xzLg0KPiBCZW5lZml0OiBs b3dlciBwYXlsb2FkIHRvIHRyYW5zbWl0Lg0KPiBEcmF3YmFjazogcmVxdWlyZSB0YXIgYXQgZGVz dGluYXRpb24gbWFjaGluZS4NCj4gDQo+IDIuIERvIG5vdCB1c2UgdGFyIGJ1dCBzZWxmIGV4dHJh Y3RpbmcgcHl0aG9uIHNjcmlwdCwgYSBwYXRjaCBpcyByZWFkeVsxXS4NCj4gDQo+IEJlbmVmaXQ6 IGFiaWxpdHkgdG8gZGVwbG95IGVudmlyb25tZW50IGluIHdoaWNoIHRhciBpcyBtaXNzaW5nLg0K PiBEcmF3YmFjazogbm9uIHN0YW5kYXJkIHRvb2wgYXQgZGVzdGluYXRpb24gbWFjaGluZS4NCj4g RHJhd2JhY2s6IGNvbXBsZXhpdHkgd2l0aGluIG91ciBjb2RlLg0KPiANCj4gMy4gRG8gbm90IHVz ZSB0YXIgYnV0IGNwaW8sIGEgcGF0Y2ggaXMgcmVhZHlbMl0uDQo+IA0KPiBCZW5lZml0OiBzaW1w bGljaXR5Lg0KPiBCZW5lZml0OiB1c2Ugc3RhbmRhcmQgdG9vbHMuDQo+IEJlbmVmaXQ6IGxvd2Vy IHBheWxvYWQgdG8gdHJhbnNtaXQuDQo+IEJlbmVmaXQ6IGFiaWxpdHkgdG8gdXNlIEZlZG9yYS0x OSBtaW5pbWFsLg0KPiBEcmF3YmFjazogY3BpbyBpcyBldmVuIGxlc3MgY29tbW9uIHRoYW4gdGFy LCBldmVuIGlmIGl0IGV4aXN0cyBpbiBGZWRvcmEtMTkNCj4gaXQgY2FuIGJlIHJlbW92ZWQgd2l0 aG91dCBhbnlvbmUgbm90aWNlLg0KPiBEcmF3YmFjazogbW9zdCBvdGhlciBkaXN0cmlidXRpb25z IHdpbGwgbm90IGhhdmUgY3BpbyBpbiB0aGVpciBtaW5pbWFsDQo+IGluc3RhbGxhdGlvbi4NCj4g DQo+IFtbWw0KPiBUaGVyZSB3YXMgNHJkIGFsdGVybmF0aXZlLCB1c2luZyBweXRob24gdGFyIG1v ZHVsZSB0byBkZXBsb3kgdGFyLg0KPiBIb3dldmVyLCB0aGVyZSBpcyBhIGJ1ZyBpbiB0aGF0IG1v ZHVsZSB3aGVuIHByb2Nlc3NpbmcgbGFzdCBibG9jayBpZiBlbXB0eS4NCj4gVGhpcyBpcyBlZGdl IGNvbmRpdGlvbiBidXQgaGFwcGVuZWQgdG8gYXQgbGVhc3Qgb25lIG9mIHRoZSB1c2VycyBhbmQg SSBjb3VsZA0KPiByZXByb2R1Y2UgaXQuDQo+IF1dXQ0KPiANCj4gV2hhdCBvcHRpb24gZG8geW91 IHByZWZlcj8NCj4gDQo+IFJlZ2FyZHMsDQo+IEFsb24gQmFyLUxldg0KPiANCj4gWzFdIGh0dHA6 Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQub3JnLyMvYy8xNzI5NS8NCj4gWzJdIGh0dHA6Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQu b3JnLyMvYy8xNzM5Ni8NCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX18NCj4gRW5naW5lLWRldmVsIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPiBFbmdpbmUtZGV2ZWxAb3Zp cnQub3JnDQo+IGh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5vdmlydC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lbmdpbmUt ZGV2ZWwNCj4gDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f Xw0KVXNlcnMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQpVc2Vyc0BvdmlydC5vcmcNCmh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5vdmly dC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby91c2Vycw== --_1938ECEA-3E06-46F4-B913-6EAE13EA5830_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PHN0eWxlIGRhdGEtZXh0ZXJuYWxzdHlsZT0idHJ1ZSI+CnAuTXNvTGlzdFBh cmFncmFwaCwgbGkuTXNvTGlzdFBhcmFncmFwaCwgZGl2Lk1zb0xpc3RQYXJhZ3JhcGggewptYXJn aW4tdG9wOjBpbjsKbWFyZ2luLXJpZ2h0OjBpbjsKbWFyZ2luLWJvdHRvbTowaW47Cm1hcmdpbi1s ZWZ0Oi41aW47Cm1hcmdpbi1ib3R0b206LjAwMDFwdDsKfQoKcC5Nc29MaXN0UGFyYWdyYXBoQ3hT cEZpcnN0LCBsaS5Nc29MaXN0UGFyYWdyYXBoQ3hTcEZpcnN0LCBkaXYuTXNvTGlzdFBhcmFncmFw aEN4U3BGaXJzdCwgcC5Nc29MaXN0UGFyYWdyYXBoQ3hTcE1pZGRsZSwgbGkuTXNvTGlzdFBhcmFn cmFwaEN4U3BNaWRkbGUsIGRpdi5Nc29MaXN0UGFyYWdyYXBoQ3hTcE1pZGRsZSwgcC5Nc29MaXN0 UGFyYWdyYXBoQ3hTcExhc3QsIGxpLk1zb0xpc3RQYXJhZ3JhcGhDeFNwTGFzdCwgZGl2Lk1zb0xp c3RQYXJhZ3JhcGhDeFNwTGFzdCB7Cm1hcmdpbi10b3A6MGluOwptYXJnaW4tcmlnaHQ6MGluOwpt YXJnaW4tYm90dG9tOjBpbjsKbWFyZ2luLWxlZnQ6LjVpbjsKbWFyZ2luLWJvdHRvbTouMDAwMXB0 OwpsaW5lLWhlaWdodDoxMTUlOwp9Cjwvc3R5bGU+PHN0eWxlPjwhLS0KLkVtYWlsUXVvdGUgewpw YWRkaW5nLWxlZnQ6NHB0OwptYXJnaW4tbGVmdDoxcHQ7CmJvcmRlci1sZWZ0LWNvbG9yOnJnYigx MjgsIDAsIDApOwpib3JkZXItbGVmdC13aWR0aDoycHg7CmJvcmRlci1sZWZ0LXN0eWxlOnNvbGlk Owp9Ci0tPjwvc3R5bGU+PC9oZWFkPjxib2R5PjxkaXYgZGF0YS1leHRlcm5hbHN0eWxlPSJmYWxz ZSIgc3R5bGU9ImZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OkNhbGlicmksJ1NlZ29lIFVJJyxNZWlyeW8sJ01pY3Jvc29m dCBZYUhlaSBVSScsJ01pY3Jvc29mdCBKaGVuZ0hlaSBVSScsJ01hbGd1biBHb3RoaWMnLCdLaG1l ciBVSScsJ05pcm1hbGEgVUknLFR1bmdhLCdMYW8gVUknLEVicmltYSxzYW5zLXNlcmlmO2ZvbnQt c2l6ZToxNnB4OyI+PGRpdj5JIGRpZCBzb21lIHRlc3Rpbmcgd2l0aCBGZWRvcmEgMTggKHdhaXRp bmcgZm9yIHRoZSBGZWRvcmEgMTkgZHZkIHRvIGZpbmlzaCBkb3dubG9hZGluZykgYW5kIEkmbmJz cDt0aGluayB0aGF0IHRoZSBiZWhhdmlvciB3YXMgdGhlIHNhbWUgd2F5IGluIEZlZG9yYSAxOC4g SW4gRmVkb3JhIDE4IHdoZW4gaW5zdGFsbGluZyBmcm9tIERWRCBpZiB5b3Ugc2VsZWN0Jm5ic3A7 4oCcTWluaW1hbCBJbnN0YWxs4oCdLCB5b3UgZG8gbm90IGdldCB0YXIuPC9kaXY+PGRpdj4mbmJz cDs8L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pkhvd2V2ZXIsIGlmIHlvdSBzZWxlY3QmbmJzcDvigJxNaW5pbWFsIGluc3Rh bGzigJ0gYW5kJm5ic3A74oCcc3RhbmRhcmTigJ0gdW5kZXIgdGhlIGFkZC1vbiBsaXN0LCB5b3Ug KmRvKiBnZXQgdGFyLiBBbmQgaWYgbWVtb3J5IHNlcnZlcyBJIGxlYXJuZWQgdGhlIGhhcmQgd2F5 IGluIEZlZG9yYSAxOCB0aGF0IGEgbG90IG9mJm5ic3A7ZmFtaWxpYXIgY29tbWFuZHMmbmJzcDth cmUgbWlzc2luZyBpbiBtaW5pbWFsIGluc3RhbGwgd2l0aG91dCB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQgYWRkLW9u IGl0ZW1zIGluY2x1ZGluZyZuYnNwO+KAnGlmY29uZmln4oCdLiBZZWEsIHlvdSBjYW7igJl0IGV2 ZW4gZWFzaWx5IHRlbGwgd2hhdCB5b3VyIElQIGFkZHJlc3MgaXMhLi4uIHVubGVzcyB5b3UgYXJl IHVzZWQgdG8gdGhlIGlwIGNvbW1hbmQuPC9kaXY+PGRpdiBkYXRhLXNpZ25hdHVyZWJsb2NrPSJ0 cnVlIj48ZGl2PiZuYnNwOzwvZGl2PjxkaXYgZGF0YS1mb2N1c2Zyb21wb2ludGVyPSJ0cnVlIj5J cyB0aGVyZSBhbnkgb3RoZXIgY29tbWFuZHMgdGhhdCBhcmUgbWlzc2luZyBvbiB0aGUmbmJzcDvi gJxtaW5pbWFs4oCdIGluc3RhbGwgdGhhdCBhcmUgbmVlZGVkPyBXb3VsZCBpdCBiZSBlYXNpZXIg dG8gbWVudGlvbiBpbiB0aGUgaW5zdGFsbCBkaXJlY3Rpb25zIHRvIHVzZSB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQg YWRkLW9uIGlmIHNlbGVjdGluZyB0aGUgbWluaW1hbCBwYWNrYWdlIHNldCBmb3IgaG9zdCBkZXBs b3ltZW50PzwvZGl2PjxkaXY+Jm5ic3A7PC9kaXY+PGRpdiBkYXRhLWZvY3VzZnJvbXBvaW50ZXI9 InRydWUiPkp1c3QgdGhvdWdodHMuIEkgYWxzbyB3b25kZXIgaWYgaXQgd291bGQgYmUgcG9zc2li bGUgdG8gaW5jbHVkZSB0YXIgYXMgYSBkZXBlbmRlbmN5IGZvciB0aGUgUlBNcyAobGlrZSBvdmly dC1lbmdpbmUgb3IgdmRzbSkmbmJzcDtzbyB3aGVuIGluc3RhbGxlZCB1c2luZyBhIHBhY2thZ2Ug bWFuYWdlciwgdGFyIHdvdWxkIGJlIGNoZWNrZWQgZm9yLjwvZGl2PjxkaXYgZGF0YS1mb2N1c2Zy b21wb2ludGVyPSJ0cnVlIj4mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pi0gTmljazwvZGl2PjxkaXY+Jm5ic3A7 PC9kaXY+PGRpdj4mbmJzcDs8L2Rpdj48L2Rpdj4JPGRpdiBzdHlsZT0iYm9yZGVyLXRvcC1jb2xv cjogcmdiKDIyNSwgMjI1LCAyMjUpOyBib3JkZXItdG9wLXdpZHRoOiAxcHg7IGJvcmRlci10b3At c3R5bGU6IHNvbGlkOyI+CQk8c3Ryb25nPkZyb206PC9zdHJvbmc+Jm5ic3A7QWxvbiBCYXItTGV2 PGJyPgkJPHN0cm9uZz5TZW50Ojwvc3Ryb25nPiZuYnNwO+KAjkF1Z3VzdOKAjiDigI414oCOLCDi gI4yMDEzIOKAjjbigI464oCOMDLigI4g4oCOUE08YnI+CQk8c3Ryb25nPlRvOjwvc3Ryb25nPiZu YnNwO3VzZXJzLCBhcmNoLCBlbmdpbmUtZGV2ZWw8YnI+CQk8c3Ryb25nPlN1YmplY3Q6PC9zdHJv bmc+Jm5ic3A7UmU6IFtVc2Vyc10gW0VuZ2luZS1kZXZlbF0gW0ZlZWRiYWNrIHJlcXVpcmVkXVto b3N0LWRlcGxveV0gRmVkb3JhLTE5IG1pc3NlcyB0YXIgYXQgbWluaW1hbCBzZXR1cDxicj4JPC9k aXY+CTxkaXY+Jm5ic3A7PC9kaXY+CgoKCgo8ZGl2IGNsYXNzPSIgUGxhaW5UZXh0IiBkYXRhLWZv Y3VzZnJvbXBvaW50ZXI9InRydWUiPkhlbGxvIEFnYWluLDxicj4KPGJyPgpJIHRlbmQgdG8ga2Vl cCBzdGF0ZSBhcy1pcywgcmVxdWlyZSB0YXIgYXQgaG9zdCBtYWNoaW5lLjxicj4KPGJyPgpXaG9l dmVyIGluc3RhbGxzIEZlZG9yYSBtaW5pbWFsIHNob3VsZCBpbnN0YWxsIHRhciBtYW51YWxseS48 YnI+Cjxicj4KSSBob3BlIEZlZG9yYSBwZW9wbGUgd2lsbCBhZGQgdGFyIHBlciBzb21lIG9mIHRo ZSByZXF1ZXN0cywgYXMgdGFyIGlzIGltcG9ydGFudCB1dGlsaXR5IGluICpOSVggZW52aXJvbm1l bnQuPGJyPgo8YnI+CkkgZG8gbm90IHRoaW5rIHRoYXQgdGhlIGV4dHJhIGNvbXBsZXhpdHkgaXMg cmVxdWlyZWQuPGJyPgo8YnI+CklmIHlvdSBzdHJvbmdseSB0aGluayBvdGhlcndpc2UsIHRoZW4g SSBwcmVmZXIgdG8gbWVyZ2UgdGhlIHNlbGYgZXh0cmFjdGluZyBweXRob24gc2NyaXB0Ljxicj4K PGJyPgpTcGVhayBub3csIGFuZCBlbXBoYXNpcy48YnI+Cjxicj4KUmVnYXJkcyw8YnI+CkFsb24g QmFyLUxldi48YnI+Cjxicj4KLS0tLS0gT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLTxicj4KJmd0OyBG cm9tOiAiQWxvbiBCYXItTGV2IiAmbHQ7YWxvbmJsQHJlZGhhdC5jb20mZ3Q7PGJyPgomZ3Q7IFRv OiAidXNlcnMiICZsdDt1c2Vyc0BvdmlydC5vcmcmZ3Q7LCAiYXJjaCIgJmx0O2FyY2hAb3ZpcnQu b3JnJmd0OywgImVuZ2luZS1kZXZlbCIgJmx0O2VuZ2luZS1kZXZlbEBvdmlydC5vcmcmZ3Q7PGJy PgomZ3Q7IENjOiAiSnVhbiBIZXJuYW5kZXoiICZsdDtqaGVybmFuZEByZWRoYXQuY29tJmd0Ozxi cj4KJmd0OyBTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBKdWx5IDMwLCAyMDEzIDQ6MTI6MDMgUE08YnI+CiZndDsg U3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtFbmdpbmUtZGV2ZWxdIFtVc2Vyc10gW0ZlZWRiYWNrIHJlcXVpcmVkXVto b3N0LWRlcGxveV0gRmVkb3JhLTE5IG1pc3NlcyB0YXIgYXQgbWluaW1hbCBzZXR1cDxicj4KJmd0 OyA8YnI+CiZndDsgSGVsbG8gQWxsLDxicj4KJmd0OyA8YnI+CiZndDsgU3RhcnRpbmcgdGhlIGRp c2N1c3Npb24gYWdhaW4uLi48YnI+CiZndDsgPGJyPgomZ3Q7IEkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byByZWNl aXZlIGZlZWRiYWNrIHJlZ2FyZGluZyBob3cgd2Ugc2hvdWxkIGNvcGUgd2l0aCBhIHN0YXRlPGJy PgomZ3Q7IHByZXNlbnRlZCB0byB1c2UgYnkgRmVkb3JhLjxicj4KJmd0OyA8YnI+CiZndDsgRmVk b3JhLTE5IG1pbmltYWwgc2V0dXAgZG9lcyBub3QgaW5zdGFsbCB0YXIgdXRpbGl0eSB3aGljaCBp cyByZXF1aXJlZCB0bzxicj4KJmd0OyBkZXBsb3kgZmlsZXMgZHVyaW5nIHRoZSBob3N0LWRlcGxv eSBwcm9jZXNzIChIb3N0cy0mZ3Q7QWRkIEhvc3QpLjxicj4KJmd0OyA8YnI+CiZndDsgSSBndWVz cyBiZWNhdXNlIG9mIDIuOE0gaW4gc2l6ZSAoaW5jbHVkaW5nIHRyYW5zbGF0aW9ucykgLS0gYSBz dGFuZGFyZDxicj4KJmd0OyBjb21tb25seSB1c2VkIHV0aWxpdHkgd2FzIHJlbW92ZWQuPGJyPgom Z3Q7IDxicj4KJmd0OyBUaGVyZSBhcmUgdGhyZWUgYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmVzIDo8YnI+CiZndDsgPGJy PgomZ3Q7IDEuIEluc3RydWN0IHVzZXJzIHdobyBhcmUgdXNpbmcgbWluaW1hbCBpbnN0YWxsYXRp b25zIHRvIG1hbnVhbGx5IGluc3RhbGwgdGFyPGJyPgomZ3Q7IHV0aWxpdHkganVzdCBsaWtlIHRo ZXkgY29uZmlndXJlIHJlcG9zaXRvcnksIGRucywgZXRjLi48YnI+CiZndDsgPGJyPgomZ3Q7IEJl bmVmaXQ6IHNpbXBsaWNpdHkuPGJyPgomZ3Q7IEJlbmVmaXQ6IHVzZSBzdGFuZGFyZCB0b29scy48 YnI+CiZndDsgQmVuZWZpdDogbG93ZXIgcGF5bG9hZCB0byB0cmFuc21pdC48YnI+CiZndDsgRHJh d2JhY2s6IHJlcXVpcmUgdGFyIGF0IGRlc3RpbmF0aW9uIG1hY2hpbmUuPGJyPgomZ3Q7IDxicj4K Jmd0OyAyLiBEbyBub3QgdXNlIHRhciBidXQgc2VsZiBleHRyYWN0aW5nIHB5dGhvbiBzY3JpcHQs IGEgcGF0Y2ggaXMgcmVhZHlbMV0uPGJyPgomZ3Q7IDxicj4KJmd0OyBCZW5lZml0OiBhYmlsaXR5 IHRvIGRlcGxveSBlbnZpcm9ubWVudCBpbiB3aGljaCB0YXIgaXMgbWlzc2luZy48YnI+CiZndDsg RHJhd2JhY2s6IG5vbiBzdGFuZGFyZCB0b29sIGF0IGRlc3RpbmF0aW9uIG1hY2hpbmUuPGJyPgom Z3Q7IERyYXdiYWNrOiBjb21wbGV4aXR5IHdpdGhpbiBvdXIgY29kZS48YnI+CiZndDsgPGJyPgom Z3Q7IDMuIERvIG5vdCB1c2UgdGFyIGJ1dCBjcGlvLCBhIHBhdGNoIGlzIHJlYWR5WzJdLjxicj4K Jmd0OyA8YnI+CiZndDsgQmVuZWZpdDogc2ltcGxpY2l0eS48YnI+CiZndDsgQmVuZWZpdDogdXNl IHN0YW5kYXJkIHRvb2xzLjxicj4KJmd0OyBCZW5lZml0OiBsb3dlciBwYXlsb2FkIHRvIHRyYW5z bWl0Ljxicj4KJmd0OyBCZW5lZml0OiBhYmlsaXR5IHRvIHVzZSBGZWRvcmEtMTkgbWluaW1hbC48 YnI+CiZndDsgRHJhd2JhY2s6IGNwaW8gaXMgZXZlbiBsZXNzIGNvbW1vbiB0aGFuIHRhciwgZXZl biBpZiBpdCBleGlzdHMgaW4gRmVkb3JhLTE5PGJyPgomZ3Q7IGl0IGNhbiBiZSByZW1vdmVkIHdp dGhvdXQgYW55b25lIG5vdGljZS48YnI+CiZndDsgRHJhd2JhY2s6IG1vc3Qgb3RoZXIgZGlzdHJp YnV0aW9ucyB3aWxsIG5vdCBoYXZlIGNwaW8gaW4gdGhlaXIgbWluaW1hbDxicj4KJmd0OyBpbnN0 YWxsYXRpb24uPGJyPgomZ3Q7IDxicj4KJmd0OyBbW1s8YnI+CiZndDsgVGhlcmUgd2FzIDRyZCBh bHRlcm5hdGl2ZSwgdXNpbmcgcHl0aG9uIHRhciBtb2R1bGUgdG8gZGVwbG95IHRhci48YnI+CiZn dDsgSG93ZXZlciwgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBidWcgaW4gdGhhdCBtb2R1bGUgd2hlbiBwcm9jZXNzaW5n IGxhc3QgYmxvY2sgaWYgZW1wdHkuPGJyPgomZ3Q7IFRoaXMgaXMgZWRnZSBjb25kaXRpb24gYnV0 IGhhcHBlbmVkIHRvIGF0IGxlYXN0IG9uZSBvZiB0aGUgdXNlcnMgYW5kIEkgY291bGQ8YnI+CiZn dDsgcmVwcm9kdWNlIGl0Ljxicj4KJmd0OyBdXV08YnI+CiZndDsgPGJyPgomZ3Q7IFdoYXQgb3B0 aW9uIGRvIHlvdSBwcmVmZXI/PGJyPgomZ3Q7IDxicj4KJmd0OyBSZWdhcmRzLDxicj4KJmd0OyBB bG9uIEJhci1MZXY8YnI+CiZndDsgPGJyPgomZ3Q7IFsxXSA8YSB0YWJpbmRleD0iLTEiIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQub3JnLyMvYy8xNzI5NS8iPmh0dHA6Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQu b3JnLyMvYy8xNzI5NS88L2E+PGJyPgomZ3Q7IFsyXSA8YSB0YWJpbmRleD0iLTEiIGhyZWY9Imh0 dHA6Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQub3JnLyMvYy8xNzM5Ni8iPmh0dHA6Ly9nZXJyaXQub3ZpcnQub3Jn LyMvYy8xNzM5Ni88L2E+PGJyPgomZ3Q7IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fPGJyPgomZ3Q7IEVuZ2luZS1kZXZlbCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3Q8YnI+CiZn dDsgRW5naW5lLWRldmVsQG92aXJ0Lm9yZzxicj4KJmd0OyA8YSB0YWJpbmRleD0iLTEiIGhyZWY9 Imh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5vdmlydC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lbmdpbmUtZGV2ZWwiPmh0 dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5vdmlydC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lbmdpbmUtZGV2ZWw8L2E+PGJy PgomZ3Q7IDxicj4KX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X188YnI+ClVzZXJzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdDxicj4KVXNlcnNAb3ZpcnQub3JnPGJyPgo8YSB0YWJp bmRleD0iLTEiIGhyZWY9Imh0dHA6Ly9saXN0cy5vdmlydC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby91 c2VycyI+aHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL3VzZXJzPC9hPjxi cj4KPC9kaXY+CgoKPC9kaXY+PC9ib2R5PjwvaHRtbD4= --_1938ECEA-3E06-46F4-B913-6EAE13EA5830_--
+1 for Alon's summary - first preference to remain as-is, second pyar.</di= v><div><br></div><div>In addition:</div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><blockquote style= =3D"border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#0= 00;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:He= lvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"border-left: 2p= x solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-wei= ght: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvet= ica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Nicholas Kesick" <= cybertimber2000@hotmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"oVirt Mailing List" <user= s@ovirt.org>, "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, "engine-devel" <engine-d= evel@ovirt.org>, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com><br><b>Sent: </= b>Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:57:41 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Users] [Engine= -devel] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal se= tup<br><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'= Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nir= mala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif;font-size:16px;" data-mce-style= =3D"font-family: Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft = JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,= sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div>I did some testing with Fedora 18 (waiti= ng for the Fedora 19 dvd to finish downloading) and I think that the b= ehavior was the same way in Fedora 18. In Fedora 18 when installing from DV= D if you select =E2=80=9CMinimal Install=E2=80=9D, you do not get tar.= </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Indeed.</div><div><br></div><b= lockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-le= ft:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none= ;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"= border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color:= #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font= -family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-f= amily:Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI= ','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif;= font-size:16px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'= Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nir= mala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div>However, = if you select =E2=80=9CMinimal install=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cstan= dard=E2=80=9D under the add-on list, you *do* get tar. And if memory serves= I learned the hard way in Fedora 18 that a lot of familiar commands&n= bsp;are missing in minimal install without the standard add-on items includ= ing =E2=80=9Cifconfig=E2=80=9D. Yea, you can=E2=80=99t even easily tel= l what your IP address is!... unless you are used to the ip command.</div><= /div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think they are trying to educate us= ... and for me it partially worked :-)</div><div>I have some machines on wh= ich I did not install ifconfig, and (partially)</div><div>learned to <= span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">use ip = (after refusing to do so for perhaps 10 or so years).</span></div><div><spa= n style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span= </div><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;p= adding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decora= tion:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-=
<div>Is there any other commands that are missing on the =E2=80=9Cmin= imal=E2=80=9D install that are needed?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><= br></div><div>Needed by vdsm? They are listed as dependencies for it.</div>= <div>Needed by me? Yes, but that's a personal preference.</div><div><br></d= iv><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;paddi= ng-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration= :none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-styl= e=3D"border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; c=
Would it be easier to mention in the install directions to use the standa= rd add-on if selecting the minimal package set for host deployment?</div></=
<div>This won't help in our case, as Alon explained in previous mails in t= his subject -</div><div>these RPMs are installed by the "bundle" (a set of =
------=_Part_11744648_1384534939.1375765669829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,=20 +1 for Alon's summary - first preference to remain as-is, second pyar.=20 In addition:=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2000@hotmail.com>=20 To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users@ovirt.org>, "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, "engin= e-devel" <engine-devel@ovirt.org>, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:57:41 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Users] [Engine-devel] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora= -19 misses tar at minimal setup=20 I did some testing with Fedora 18 (waiting for the Fedora 19 dvd to finish = downloading) and I think that the behavior was the same way in Fedora 18. I= n Fedora 18 when installing from DVD if you select =E2=80=9CMinimal Install= =E2=80=9D, you do not get tar.=20 Indeed.=20 <blockquote> However, if you select =E2=80=9CMinimal install=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cstand= ard=E2=80=9D under the add-on list, you *do* get tar. And if memory serves = I learned the hard way in Fedora 18 that a lot of familiar commands are mis= sing in minimal install without the standard add-on items including =E2=80= =9Cifconfig=E2=80=9D. Yea, you can=E2=80=99t even easily tell what your IP = address is!... unless you are used to the ip command.=20 </blockquote> I think they are trying to educate us... and for me it partially worked :-)= =20 I have some machines on which I did not install ifconfig, and (partially)= =20 learned to use ip (after refusing to do so for perhaps 10 or so years).=20 <blockquote> Is there any other commands that are missing on the =E2=80=9Cminimal=E2=80= =9D install that are needed?=20 </blockquote> Needed by vdsm? They are listed as dependencies for it.=20 Needed by me? Yes, but that's a personal preference.=20 <blockquote> Would it be easier to mention in the install directions to use the standard= add-on if selecting the minimal package set for host deployment?=20 </blockquote> The wiki page already tells to install tar, and I think that's enough.=20 <blockquote> Just thoughts. I also wonder if it would be possible to include tar as a de= pendency for the RPMs (like ovirt-engine or vdsm) so when installed using a= package manager, tar would be checked for.=20 </blockquote> This won't help in our case, as Alon explained in previous mails in this su= bject -=20 these RPMs are installed by the "bundle" (a set of scripts/data files) that= we are now=20 discussing how should be made to arrive and run.=20 Best regards,=20 --=20 Didi=20 ------=_Part_11744648_1384534939.1375765669829 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, se= rif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div= style=3D"border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5p= x; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: n= one; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style= =3D"font-family:Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft J= hengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,s= ans-serif;font-size:16px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,'Segoe UI= ',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khme= r UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div= olor: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none;= font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"f= ont-family:Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengH= ei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-s= erif;font-size:16px;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,'Segoe UI',Mei= ryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI'= ,'Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div= div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The wiki page already tells to i= nstall tar, and I think that's enough.</div><div><br></div><blockquote styl= e=3D"border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#= 000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:H= elvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"border-left: 2= px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-we= ight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helve= tica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,= 'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Goth= ic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif;font-size:16px= ;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,'Segoe UI',Meiryo,'Microsoft YaHe= i UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','Khmer UI','Nirmala UI',Tunga= ,'Lao UI',Ebrima,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><div>Just thoughts. I a= lso wonder if it would be possible to include tar as a dependency for the R= PMs (like ovirt-engine or vdsm) so when installed using a package mana= ger, tar would be checked for.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div= scripts/data files) that we are now</div><div>discussing how should be made= to arrive and run.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>--&nbs= p;</div><div>Didi</div><div><br></div></div></body></html> ------=_Part_11744648_1384534939.1375765669829--
participants (2)
-
Nicholas Kesick -
Yedidyah Bar David