
Hi Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine? Thanks, Nagaraju

Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 12:36 Budur Nagaraju <nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi
Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine?
Hi, if you mean: "Can I use oVirt Node for running VMs without using oVirt Engine?" then yes, you can. oVirt Node is a CentOS Linux derivative and as such you can use virt-manager from your laptop to connect to it and manage VMs there as if it was a normal CentOS. You can also use cockpit for creating local VMs. If you mean: "Can I create VMs from oVirt Node and also manage them from the engine?" the short answer is no. The long answer is: you can still try using cockpit-machines-ovirt https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html which was deprecated in oVIrt 4.3 and removed in 4.4. Or run VMs on oVirt Node and try to make them visible to engine using KVM provider https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... But I wouldn't recommend using these flows. -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.* * <https://www.redhat.com/it/forums/emea/italy-track>*

Have logged in using cockpit but unable to create vms, is the behavior is like that? We can't use cockpit to create vms? Thanks, Nagaraju On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 5:35 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 12:36 Budur Nagaraju <nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi
Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine?
Hi, if you mean: "Can I use oVirt Node for running VMs without using oVirt Engine?" then yes, you can.
oVirt Node is a CentOS Linux derivative and as such you can use virt-manager from your laptop to connect to it and manage VMs there as if it was a normal CentOS. You can also use cockpit for creating local VMs.
If you mean: "Can I create VMs from oVirt Node and also manage them from the engine?" the short answer is no. The long answer is: you can still try using cockpit-machines-ovirt https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html which was deprecated in oVIrt 4.3 and removed in 4.4. Or run VMs on oVirt Node and try to make them visible to engine using KVM provider https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... But I wouldn't recommend using these flows.
--
Sandro Bonazzola
MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/>
*Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*

Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 14:20 Budur Nagaraju <nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Have logged in using cockpit but unable to create vms, is the behavior is like that?
We can't use cockpit to create vms?
yum install http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/AppStream/x86_64/os/Packages/cockpit-machi... should give you the cockpit plugin for running VMs. Just be aware this is not a use case that involves oVirt bits, this is basically CentOS workflow.
Thanks, Nagaraju
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 5:35 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 12:36 Budur Nagaraju < nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi
Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine?
Hi, if you mean: "Can I use oVirt Node for running VMs without using oVirt Engine?" then yes, you can.
oVirt Node is a CentOS Linux derivative and as such you can use virt-manager from your laptop to connect to it and manage VMs there as if it was a normal CentOS. You can also use cockpit for creating local VMs.
If you mean: "Can I create VMs from oVirt Node and also manage them from the engine?" the short answer is no. The long answer is: you can still try using cockpit-machines-ovirt https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html which was deprecated in oVIrt 4.3 and removed in 4.4. Or run VMs on oVirt Node and try to make them visible to engine using KVM provider https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... But I wouldn't recommend using these flows.
--
Sandro Bonazzola
MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/>
*Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*
-- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours. <https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-1199578>* * <https://www.redhat.com/it/forums/emea/italy-track>*

Hi Sandro, Have not installed a hosted engine nor have installed an ovirt engine , have just installed an ovirt node in one of the bare metal servers and logged into the server using a cockpit. When I browse to ovirt virtual machine "create New vm' is greyed out, is ovirt node dependent on the ovirt engine ? Thanks, Nagaraju On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 5:54 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 14:20 Budur Nagaraju <nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Have logged in using cockpit but unable to create vms, is the behavior is like that?
We can't use cockpit to create vms?
yum install http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/AppStream/x86_64/os/Packages/cockpit-machi... should give you the cockpit plugin for running VMs. Just be aware this is not a use case that involves oVirt bits, this is basically CentOS workflow.
Thanks, Nagaraju
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020, 5:35 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 12:36 Budur Nagaraju < nbudoor@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Hi
Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine?
Hi, if you mean: "Can I use oVirt Node for running VMs without using oVirt Engine?" then yes, you can.
oVirt Node is a CentOS Linux derivative and as such you can use virt-manager from your laptop to connect to it and manage VMs there as if it was a normal CentOS. You can also use cockpit for creating local VMs.
If you mean: "Can I create VMs from oVirt Node and also manage them from the engine?" the short answer is no. The long answer is: you can still try using cockpit-machines-ovirt https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html which was deprecated in oVIrt 4.3 and removed in 4.4. Or run VMs on oVirt Node and try to make them visible to engine using KVM provider https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... But I wouldn't recommend using these flows.
--
Sandro Bonazzola
MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/>
*Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*
--
Sandro Bonazzola
MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
sbonazzo@redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/>
*Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours. <https://mojo.redhat.com/docs/DOC-1199578>*

What is the longevity status of cockpit-machines-ovirt ? I understand it was removed from automatically being in node, due to perceived redundancy. But is the software package itself going away and/or not going to be usable in the future? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> To: "Budur Nagaraju" <nbudoor@gmail.com> Cc: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 5:05:01 AM Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: oVirt-node Il giorno lun 12 ott 2020 alle ore 12:36 Budur Nagaraju < [ mailto:nbudoor@gmail.com | nbudoor@gmail.com ] > ha scritto: Hi Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine? Hi, if you mean: "Can I use oVirt Node for running VMs without using oVirt Engine?" then yes, you can. oVirt Node is a CentOS Linux derivative and as such you can use virt-manager from your laptop to connect to it and manage VMs there as if it was a normal CentOS. You can also use cockpit for creating local VMs. If you mean: "Can I create VMs from oVirt Node and also manage them from the engine?" the short answer is no. The long answer is: you can still try using cockpit-machines-ovirt [ https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html | https://cockpit-project.org/guide/172/feature-ovirtvirtualmachines.html ] which was deprecated in oVIrt 4.3 and removed in 4.4. Or run VMs on oVirt Node and try to make them visible to engine using KVM provider [ https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... | https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/administration_guide/#Adding_KVM_as_an_E... ] But I wouldn't recommend using these flows. -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV [ https://www.redhat.com/ | Red Hat EMEA ] [ mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com | sbonazzo@redhat.com ] [ https://www.redhat.com/ ] Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours. [ https://www.redhat.com/it/forums/emea/italy-track ] _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/7RQZY3DCQ7TFFB...

Hi Badur, theoretically it's possible as oVirt is just a management layer. You can use 'virsh -c qemu:///system?authfile=/etc/ovirt-hosted-engine/virsh_auth.conf' as an alias of virsh and then you will be able to "virsh define yourVM.xml" & "virsh start yourVM". Also it's suitable to start a VM during Engine's downtime. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov В понеделник, 12 октомври 2020 г., 13:36:31 Гринуич+3, Budur Nagaraju <nbudoor@gmail.com> написа: Hi Is there a way to deploy vms on the ovirt node without using the oVirt engine? Thanks, Nagaraju _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/FEGDT6G6P3D4GE...
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