Hi, I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform? I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
Bryan, Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes. Regards, -- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
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Thanks,
From what i have read gluster does not need a whole lot of processing power, correct? Should a single CPU multi core proc be able to handle the load of 30+ vm's?
Currently we are on an old EMC NAS device for our vm infrastructure and would like to find a low cost solution to move to. -----Original Message----- From: Fernando Fuentes <ffuentes@darktcp.net> To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com>, users <users@ovirt.org> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 10:43:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup Bryan, Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes. Regards, -- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote: Hi, I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform? I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2D5806481A658B32D406B3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption. The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that, unless someone has some strong technical reason for not. Fernando On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.
Regards,
-- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
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--------------B2D5806481A658B32D406B3C Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <p>What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption.</p> <p>The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that, unless someone has some strong technical reason for not.</p> <p>Fernando<br> </p> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:1473435826.3007871.720847073.1721C62D@webmail.messagingengine.com" type="cite"> <title></title> <div>Bryan,<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Regards,</div> <div><br> </div> <div id="sig20414817"> <div class="signature">--<br> </div> <div class="signature">Fernando Fuentes<br> </div> <div class="signature"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ffuentes@txweather.org">ffuentes@txweather.org</a><br> </div> <div class="signature"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.txweather.org">http://www.txweather.org</a><br> </div> <div class="signature"><br> </div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;">Hi,<br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;"> <br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;">I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?<br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;"> <br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;">I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.<br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;"> <br> </div> <div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;"> <br> </div> <div><u>_______________________________________________</u><br> </div> <div>Users mailing list<br> </div> <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> </div> <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br> </div> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------B2D5806481A658B32D406B3C--
If you have the need to save in power and in hardware than by all means go for it and do what fits you... Compute nodes should be treated as a disposable node, One goes out and you shouldn't have to worry much about it. The more you "hyperconverge" the more you are exposing your self to self-inflicted chaos (Complexity). I am the keep it simple and standard guy... Let the next guy be able to figure things out without having to pull hairs... Yes is the new thing, the new "Just DO IT!" In my peace of mind, Storage stays where it needs to be... On its own world of IOPS and Drives. I know what it is and where is going. Its just not my cup of tea (For now) My 2 Centavos. Regards, -- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote:
What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption. The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that, unless someone has some strong technical reason for not. Fernando
On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.
Regards,
-- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
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Agree'd don't need to over complicate things, just trying to figure out things from a budgetary standpoint and how to make every thing fit in. -----Original Message----- From: Fernando Fuentes <ffuentes@darktcp.net> To: Fernando Frediani <fernando.frediani@upx.com.br>, users@ovirt.org Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 13:01:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup If you have the need to save in power and in hardware than by all means go for it and do what fits you... Compute nodes should be treated as a disposable node, One goes out and you shouldn't have to worry much about it. The more you "hyperconverge" the more you are exposing your self to self-inflicted chaos (Complexity). I am the keep it simple and standard guy... Let the next guy be able to figure things out without having to pull hairs... Yes is the new thing, the new "Just DO IT!" In my peace of mind, Storage stays where it needs to be... On its own world of IOPS and Drives. I know what it is and where is going. Its just not my cup of tea (For now) My 2 Centavos. Regards, -- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote: What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption. The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that, unless someone has some strong technical reason for not. Fernando On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote: Bryan, Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes. Regards, -- Fernando Fuentes ffuentes@txweather.org http://www.txweather.org On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote: Hi, I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform? I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
That approach is called hyper-converged. With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a production env; a stable solution will come quite early. If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article which exactly covers what you want to do: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster...
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Yes that is the document i have been looking at, unfortunately i am still pretty new to the ovirt/gluster world. But both seem like the would be a great fit for our goals. -----Original Message----- From: Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos@redhat.com> To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> Cc: users <users@ovirt.org> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:12:29 +0200 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> wrote: Hi, I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform? I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster. That approach is called hyper-converged. With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a production env; a stable solution will come quite early. If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article which exactly covers what you want to do: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> wrote:
Yes that is the document i have been looking at, unfortunately i am still pretty new to the ovirt/gluster world. But both seem like the would be a great fit for our goals.
Indeed it will be a great solution for specific scenarios. If you can afford to wait for a few months a robust hyperonvergence integration, you can start playing with it knowing that today it's still not production ready. Any feedback on that solution will be really appreciated.
-----Original Message----- From: Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos@redhat.com> To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> Cc: users <users@ovirt.org> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:12:29 +0200 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel@altn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
That approach is called hyper-converged. With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a production env; a stable solution will come quite early. If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article which exactly covers what you want to do: https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with- ovirt-4-0-and-gluster-storage/
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