5:28 p.m.
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was
wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same
systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on
each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
of the ovirt cluster.
5:43 p.m.
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your
compute nodes.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install
and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running
on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to
anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core
proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with
a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node
would be part of the ovirt cluster.
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6:04 p.m.
Thanks,
From what i have read gluster does not need a whole lot of processing
power,
correct? Should a single CPU multi core proc be able to handle the load of
30+ vm's?
Currently we are on an old EMC NAS device for our vm infrastructure and
would like to find a low cost solution to move to.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Fuentes <ffuentes(a)darktcp.net>
To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com>, users <users(a)ovirt.org>
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 10:43:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was
wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same
systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on
each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
of the ovirt cluster.
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What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence
and that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption.
The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory
Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host
for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that,
unless someone has some strong technical reason for not.
Fernando
On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install
> and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running
> on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to
> anther platform?
>
> I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core
> proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server
> with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each
> node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
>
>
> _________________________________________________
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<p>What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into
Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power
consumption.</p>
<p>The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of
memory Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources
in each host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no
problems with that, unless someone has some strong technical
reason for not.</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
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<div>Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your
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<div>On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:<br>
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0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;">I am looking to put together a
configuration setup for a new install and was wondering if it
is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same
systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to
anther platform?<br>
</div>
<div style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:tahoma;color:rgb(0,
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0);font-weight:400;font-style:normal;background-image:none;background-repeat:repeat;background-repeat:repeat;background-attachment:scroll;background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:0%;background-origin:padding-box;background-clip:border-box;background-color:rgba(0,
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0, 0, 0);background-size:auto;">I am currently looking into 3
servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on each server.
Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node
would be part of the ovirt cluster.<br>
</div>
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8:01 p.m.
If you have the need to save in power and in hardware than by all means
go for it and do what fits you...
Compute nodes should be treated as a disposable node, One goes out and
you shouldn't have to worry much about it. The more you "hyperconverge"
the more you are exposing your self to self-inflicted chaos
(Complexity). I am the keep it simple and standard guy... Let the next
guy be able to figure things out without having to pull hairs...
Yes is the new thing, the new "Just DO IT!" In my peace of mind, Storage
stays where it needs to be... On its own world of IOPS and Drives.
I know what it is and where is going. Its just not my cup of tea (For
now)
My 2 Centavos.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote:
What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into
Hyperconvergence and that saves a lot of hardware and power
consumption.
The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory
Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each
host for Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with
that, unless someone has some strong technical reason for not.
Fernando
On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
> Bryan,
>
> Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your
> compute nodes.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Fernando Fuentes
> ffuentes(a)txweather.org
> http://www.txweather.org
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install
>> and was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt
>> running on the same systems, or if it was better to separate my
>> storage on to anther platform?
>>
>> I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core
>> proc's on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server
>> with a 3 way replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and
>> each node would be part of the ovirt cluster.
>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________
>> Users mailing list
>> Users(a)ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
>
>
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8:11 p.m.
Agree'd don't need to over complicate things, just trying to figure out
things from a budgetary standpoint and how to make every thing fit in.
-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Fuentes <ffuentes(a)darktcp.net>
To: Fernando Frediani <fernando.frediani(a)upx.com.br>, users(a)ovirt.org
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2016 13:01:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup
If you have the need to save in power and in hardware than by all means go
for it and do what fits you...
Compute nodes should be treated as a disposable node, One goes out and you
shouldn't have to worry much about it. The more you "hyperconverge" the
more you are exposing your self to self-inflicted chaos (Complexity). I am
the keep it simple and standard guy... Let the next guy be able to figure
things out without having to pull hairs...
Yes is the new thing, the new "Just DO IT!" In my peace of mind, Storage
stays where it needs to be... On its own world of IOPS and Drives.
I know what it is and where is going. Its just not my cup of tea (For now)
My 2 Centavos.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Fernando Frediani wrote:
What is the reason for ? A lot of stuff is moving into Hyperconvergence and
that saves a lot of hardware and power consumption.
The only thing I would look with more caution is the amount of memory
Gluster itself consumes, but if there are enough resources in each host for
Distributed Storage + Compute stuff I see no problems with that, unless
someone has some strong technical reason for not.
Fernando
On 09/09/2016 12:43, Fernando Fuentes wrote:
Bryan,
Just my opinion but I would separate storage away from your compute nodes.
Regards,
--
Fernando Fuentes
ffuentes(a)txweather.org
http://www.txweather.org
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bryan Sockel wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was
wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same
systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on
each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
of the ovirt cluster.
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6:12 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and
was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the
same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther
platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's
on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
of the ovirt cluster.
That approach is called hyper-converged.
With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a
production env; a stable solution will come quite early.
If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article which
exactly covers what you want to do:
https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-glus...
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6:20 p.m.
Yes that is the document i have been looking at, unfortunately i am still
pretty new to the ovirt/gluster world. But both seem like the would be a
great fit for our goals.
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From: Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos(a)redhat.com>
To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com>
Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:12:29 +0200
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and was
wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the same
systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther platform?
I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's on
each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
of the ovirt cluster.
That approach is called hyper-converged.
With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a production
env; a stable solution will come quite early.
If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article which
exactly covers what you want to do:
https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-glus...
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6:29 p.m.
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com> wrote:
Yes that is the document i have been looking at, unfortunately i am
still
pretty new to the ovirt/gluster world. But both seem like the would be a
great fit for our goals.
Indeed it will be a great solution for specific scenarios.
If you can afford to wait for a few months a robust hyperonvergence
integration, you can start playing with it knowing that today it's still
not production ready.
Any feedback on that solution will be really appreciated.
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From: Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos(a)redhat.com>
To: Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com>
Cc: users <users(a)ovirt.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:12:29 +0200
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Hardware setup
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bryan Sockel <Bryan.Sockel(a)altn.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to put together a configuration setup for a new install and
> was wondering if it is ok for have both gluster and ovirt running on the
> same systems, or if it was better to separate my storage on to anther
> platform?
>
> I am currently looking into 3 servers with 196 GB Ram, dual 6 core proc's
> on each server. Gluster would be installed on each server with a 3 way
> replica, ovirt would be running as an appliance and each node would be part
> of the ovirt cluster.
>
>
That approach is called hyper-converged.
With 4.0 is still somehow bleeding edge and not recommended for a
production env; a stable solution will come quite early.
If you want start playing with it you can take a look at this article
which exactly covers what you want to do:
https://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-
ovirt-4-0-and-gluster-storage/
>
>
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