
This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --IfGqXrbgT9wNNdIsvS8kI8WdhEQHlgkiq Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AUFHCWPQQknM84fF2kF4uGjIv4blC9bMv"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYyBEZXF1w6huZXMgKER1Y2sp?= <duck@redhat.com> To: oVirt Infra <infra@ovirt.org>, users <users@ovirt.org>, devel <devel@ovirt.org> Message-ID: <c5c71fce-0290-e97a-ddd0-eab0e6fccea4@redhat.com> Subject: Mailing-Lists upgrade --AUFHCWPQQknM84fF2kF4uGjIv4blC9bMv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quack, On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3 installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST. It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made incremental synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin. The system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit slow at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might take a few hours). To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org). There is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each ML.= You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local account if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the moment). But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods in your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account -> Account Connections). As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did not have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We decided to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the Internet links would still work fine. Hope you'd be happy with the new system. \_o< --AUFHCWPQQknM84fF2kF4uGjIv4blC9bMv-- --IfGqXrbgT9wNNdIsvS8kI8WdhEQHlgkiq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcpcqg+UmRT3yiF+BVen596wcRD8FAlmwx0MACgkQVen596wc RD9LTQ/+LtUncsq9K8D/LX8wqUTd6VyPwAD5UnAk5c3H/2tmyVA0u7FIfhEyPsXs Z//LE9FEneTDqDVRi1Dw9I54K0ZwxPBemi71dXfwgBI7Ay0ezkbLWrA168Mt9spE tHAODEuxPt2to2aqaS4ujogrkp/gvEP8ILoxPEqoTPCJ/eDTPAu/I1a2JzjMPK3n 2BBS6D8z0TLAf7w1n72TsgX2QzJW57ig/0HELyjvat2/K8V3HSrkwiKlsdULQDWe zB+aMde7r6UoyVKHqlu4asTl2tU/lGZ+e31Hd9Bnx1/oZOJdzslGOhEo9Qoz6763 AHWU9LKiK4NtxYHj2UQTWhndr8PiTtTmR73eIDmkb0cuRXxzjl9VQbwYJ0Kbrmfp attTqpc2CnEojTNXUUNSmNxotZoYXZiX8ZvjPfSgRVr15TUYujzlOfG+lUynbQMV 9rQ9/m58wgwYUymMpOIsRGaIcAKzjm+WpuuVnO+bS2AfmcBkGMQRoIhfV+3SkS8q kT9cDXgcDZOzVFcnZZB4EjbycMcPgZDcoHxU88VdYH+jFJYvvb21esgswVF/wJ2Z uEI/chp4+ADaQhl8ehZNWMSZq125v6SeirPhBNgLG7zFVZI1S9Tm/6qFmH+ajQY7 nCk1X9HZlB1ubex1X+HibRz9QKOilkMgkADyJ4yMDckwYj93sx0= =l6uN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IfGqXrbgT9wNNdIsvS8kI8WdhEQHlgkiq--

On tor, 2017-09-07 at 13:12 +0900, Marc Dequènes (Duck) wrote:
Quack,
On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3 installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST.
It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made incremental synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin. The system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit slow at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might take a few hours).
To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org). There is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each ML.
You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local account if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the moment). But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods in your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account -> Account Connections).
Hey Duck! Stupid question perhaps but, have I understood it correctly that all of us are going to have to create new accounts for the new mail-list system, if we don´t wish to log in using Fedora, GitHub or Google? Or are the existing local accounts going to be migrated as well? That's how I interpreted it at least. /K
As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did not have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We decided to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the Internet links would still work fine.
Hope you'd be happy with the new system. \_o<
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --r06HXIJQUqr6fMScECWxihviBhteo46Nk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="j2E7QVK06iaeKVlWVeB6pDk6Csdl3eeux"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYyBEZXF1w6huZXMgKER1Y2sp?= <duck@redhat.com> To: karli@inparadise.se, oVirt Infra <infra@ovirt.org>, users <users@ovirt.org>, devel <devel@ovirt.org> Message-ID: <e97ce7d5-87ab-8490-2e40-e21d7e3f6fd5@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade References: <c5c71fce-0290-e97a-ddd0-eab0e6fccea4@redhat.com> <1504761696.2440.9.camel@inparadise.se> In-Reply-To: <1504761696.2440.9.camel@inparadise.se> --j2E7QVK06iaeKVlWVeB6pDk6Csdl3eeux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quack, First, reminder, it starts in one hour. On 09/07/2017 02:21 PM, Karli Sj=C3=B6berg wrote:
Stupid question perhaps but, have I understood it correctly that all of=
us are going to have to create new accounts for the new mail-list system, if we don=C2=B4t wish to log in using Fedora, GitHub or Google?= Or are the existing local accounts going to be migrated as well?
There is no obligation to create an account. Your subscriptions will continue working as before. You can also subscribe to new MLs without an account. Nevertheless to unsubscribe or change your settings, as there is no more a per-list email+password, you will need to create one. As for local accounts, they cannot be migrated. Accounts are global across the lists now, which makes settings practical for many things, but you previously had subscribed with different passwords and potentially different emails, so I guess it would be too complicated and Mailman developers did not consider it. Nevertheless you may recreate it using the "Sign-Up" link, and you will receive a validation link by mail, so you do not have to rely on "social" accounts. You can link other email addresses using the same method in your account settings. Hope that helps. \_o< --j2E7QVK06iaeKVlWVeB6pDk6Csdl3eeux-- --r06HXIJQUqr6fMScECWxihviBhteo46Nk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcpcqg+UmRT3yiF+BVen596wcRD8FAlm14rYACgkQVen596wc RD8WSw/6AmXw+BbokgdJcrf+i8a5cFpDlXNT3uQQFq0k0kPYD9fBmjG4WKKVT+Tu gAfP2EXTy06C9a84o/mCLVc2EZJ9edfXRVxXtIXXkQa8ua1QbwadMB1A5T2AaFic u5sBT4+YzaCz7kxqPYUCGmuQcZ0ZeDV+cf2XzeOgTxPpRwDYMgnMMaxmHgqtQfR1 Nsp1VtP1I17SqNwQFAD/yA5TrwwX3e0Z3YGZ3GgjcxQsHnWvSl71/roo/zfIVmzt EoDRwfjB5wP2rsJtX4XC16vCWpUTOC3TRCIuKcKV7MUKKl/EbugjmtDTICai17pQ FO9+X9NcXvvAor+T6GZ/OpzWPTKJHvKRez8UGRjJYwvp35qx3jFTNat2OtHlRWDS jgg98tRj3PgFnkOCs41hXmuowW21YhhEymVlAe3bnYfEW3ZNqBSoMlxGCRLJht9m 7CV2fpHtrPevsEC02ZbRnI0QNf+H0JhEZQolVYuDtii3EeDNiH2UZvY6igMHClex i5HfoF3eLUcqGepbxnRh+TarTiS3sn49qq3kO8kLpnqqL3qYtBE6MJHNgnxS7YLR p/1DAMOBCyrnJzt3VN2A39I4l/Ox8GX0vR0AVG0Pvvq/MPBJXijeel8aZTp1jgA5 AEZe22jVOHUAAfWhoQyK/rfBf5Y8UNAoDsWSYRNfLLYzlDetWL4= =EnOZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r06HXIJQUqr6fMScECWxihviBhteo46Nk--

This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --VORjUKjEkHl87tnP2OpvAcDP6P3cDrplE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ErRA58xQUPI4B0r7sg94A6samB36fGTgr"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYyBEZXF1w6huZXMgKER1Y2sp?= <duck@redhat.com> To: oVirt Infra <infra@ovirt.org>, users <users@ovirt.org>, devel <devel@ovirt.org> Message-ID: <17206a71-ce9b-0fe0-8909-b333903b4b01@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Mailing-Lists upgrade References: <c5c71fce-0290-e97a-ddd0-eab0e6fccea4@redhat.com> <1504761696.2440.9.camel@inparadise.se> <e97ce7d5-87ab-8490-2e40-e21d7e3f6fd5@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <e97ce7d5-87ab-8490-2e40-e21d7e3f6fd5@redhat.com> --ErRA58xQUPI4B0r7sg94A6samB36fGTgr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quack, In short, it did work out well and I had to rollback because of a nasty bug. A few mails were lost, mostly automated, sorry about this. There is a bug in the LMTP communications between Postfix and Mailman 3, which probably lies in the LMTP library (aiosmtpd) used by MM3. They dropped Python 3.4 support so that was not very practical. I backported patches which seemed relevant, experimented too, but I was not able to fix the bug. I will need more time to dig into the problem and in the meanwhile I decided to rollback to the previous server so that people can work. We can reattempt a sync+migration when this is ready. Sorry about the disturbance. \_o< --ErRA58xQUPI4B0r7sg94A6samB36fGTgr-- --VORjUKjEkHl87tnP2OpvAcDP6P3cDrplE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEcpcqg+UmRT3yiF+BVen596wcRD8FAlm2TsUACgkQVen596wc RD9gDhAAqFMtS7i2pcRptNlNwLxGVsxSYjMdvLjWJV2thYMrMWYG+2Uh7SNthuOk EPNl9ncrpRWewwHcj5la+ePHWws6Kez6gi0F5YoNjaxtnza5mKVNCPJAW/TQYrgs 8QKRv40GUB25AFotJ4RG0+/iOy5Qfqu5a97zi8Zd/IKD/FC3AEKDxt9gq3Tm3zkZ HF0Vdt3wXCS6p59GbO/Rp3N6KIRt7EtySiacN+AhugeJ9vFspzgy+QqHhBUroaCW nNTvTHBepg+Y/DPMrEdfO9CMgiAAxi8yE91aaiX0tdNn4Aw1/ejF/ZAedF1vEHS7 H+YjdftUckVdx35lNT89pU+DHgtD33QBMFPOPNKG+sL491e2pAusNsmnQAJAN92z G84y99QKMZ4O6nycRJRIRoCTtZV/zU6fdt2EMpzaoReekoANZwBAMm+BZt3BSVmW Ss3CFYaDAyBXAGFyr2At1Bnz5z9KFDp7Itx4CT9GKvWFWIIPj3f4PyxRBo2lOa/i G8BpGJwUlS/IwjWYKOax+57ZXEdCfITkaSf9qfj9jRd6VEnNILZqpMUCYVs4en80 AnWuLOKvAqcdr8eq7KVEJeuHq/qHENdVmbBA9KmN7fPhfU+cR+nVbLy5E2PHUUxH IFKo5G51D4Fkz2Zm/33DIwAHnOfo2mdUy8mmyQJFOQqICT9XvtY= =mnob -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VORjUKjEkHl87tnP2OpvAcDP6P3cDrplE--

This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --3kRAYScDCNvlVzlBNRODBvJOfj3fkjsUJ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="9FLldcvq2B6NzubS4i5ExVu13hTATBy7p"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFyYyBEZXF1w6huZXMgKER1Y2sp?= <duck@redhat.com> To: infra@ovirt.org, users <users@ovirt.org>, devel <devel@ovirt.org> Message-ID: <9d6d9e1f-798a-1a40-4ca5-f3d1463ac752@redhat.com> Subject: Re: Mailing-Lists upgrade References: <c5c71fce-0290-e97a-ddd0-eab0e6fccea4@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <c5c71fce-0290-e97a-ddd0-eab0e6fccea4@redhat.com> --9FLldcvq2B6NzubS4i5ExVu13hTATBy7p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quack, A few months ago we had to rollback the migration because of a nasty bug. This is fixed in recent versions of Mailman 3 so we're rescheduling it on Tuesday 8th during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST. Please read the original announcement with full detail below. \_o< On 09/07/2017 01:12 PM, Marc Dequ=C3=A8nes (Duck) wrote:
Quack, =20 On behalf of the oVirt infra team, I'd like to announce the current Mailing-Lists system is going to be upgraded to a brand new Mailman 3 installation on Monday during the slot 11:00-12:00 JST. =20 It should not take a full hour to migrate as we already made incrementa= l synchronization with the current system but better keep some margin. Th= e system will then take over delivery of the mails but might be a bit slo= w at first as it needs to reindex all the archived mails (which might tak= e a few hours). =20 To manage your subscriptions and delivery settings you can do this easily on the much nicer web interface (https://lists.ovirt.org). There=
is a notion of account so you don't need to login separately for each M= L. =20 You can Sign In using Fedora, GitHub or Google or create a local accoun= t if you prefer. Please keep in mind signing in with a different method would create separate accounts (which cannot be merged at the moment). But you can easily link your account to other authentication methods in=
your settings (click on you name in the up-right corner -> Account -> Account Connections). =20 As for the original mail archives, because the previous system did not have stable URLs, we cannot create mappings to the new pages. We decide= d to keep the old archives around on the same URL (/pipermail), so the Internet links would still work fine. =20 Hope you'd be happy with the new system. \_o< =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Infra mailing list Infra@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra =20
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Karli Sjöberg
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Marc Dequènes (Duck)