[Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1

What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already? Thanks, -- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050304080004080209000000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already? Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.
Thanks Robert
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
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--------------050304080004080209000000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6trN7xP-tRE9RnKj5R4LCEADe_yQQLheacyqks3hU0Xhg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?</blockquote> Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.<br> <br> Thanks<br> Robert<br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6trN7xP-tRE9RnKj5R4LCEADe_yQQLheacyqks3hU0Xhg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks,<br clear="all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> Dominic Kaiser<br> Greater Boston Vineyard<br> Director of Operations<br> <br> cell: 617-230-1412<br> fax: 617-252-0238<br> email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org">dominic@bostonvineyard.org</a><br> <br> <br> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------050304080004080209000000--

So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong: 1. Uninstall 3.0 2. engine-cleanup do not drop database 3. Reinstall Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc. dk On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Robert Middleswarth < robert@middleswarth.net> wrote:
On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?
Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.
Thanks Robert
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org
_______________________________________________ Users mailing listUsers@ovirt.orghttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040407080708090106070809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/12/2012 03:01 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong: No. There are no Fedora 16 Repo's
1. Uninstall 3.0 2. engine-cleanup do not drop database 3. Reinstall
Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc. Pretty certain this will break things badly.
The un-test but the way that should work is. Uninstall oVirt 3.0 do not engine-clean Upgrade from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17. Add the beta repo's yum clean all Yum install ovirt-engine Run enginue-upgrade and follow it instructions Since I was stuck at the DMV all day I haven't had a change to test these instructions at all before doing these steps I would do a full backup of the DB and a snapshot of the system. If you can clone the system and do these steps on a clone even better. Thanks Robert
dk
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Robert Middleswarth <robert@middleswarth.net <mailto:robert@middleswarth.net>> wrote:
On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?
Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.
Thanks Robert
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 <tel:617-230-1412> fax: 617-252-0238 <tel:617-252-0238> email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
--------------040407080708090106070809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2012 03:01 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6tC-ehhnWbpmbikQJJeGafqy=5ARMRbBaiDxAd9GvRW+A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong:</blockquote> No. There are no Fedora 16 Repo's<br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6tC-ehhnWbpmbikQJJeGafqy=5ARMRbBaiDxAd9GvRW+A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div><br> </div> <div>1. Uninstall 3.0</div> <div>2. engine-cleanup do not drop database</div> <div>3. Reinstall</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc.</div> </blockquote> Pretty certain this will break things badly.<br> <br> The un-test but the way that should work is.<br> <br> Uninstall oVirt 3.0 do not engine-clean<br> Upgrade from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17.<br> Add the beta repo's<br> yum clean all<br> Yum install ovirt-engine<br> Run enginue-upgrade and follow it instructions<br> <br> Since I was stuck at the DMV all day I haven't had a change to test these instructions at all before doing these steps I would do a full backup of the DB and a snapshot of the system. If you can clone the system and do these steps on a clone even better. <br> <br> Thanks<br> Robert<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6tC-ehhnWbpmbikQJJeGafqy=5ARMRbBaiDxAd9GvRW+A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div><br> </div> <div>dk<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Robert Middleswarth <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:robert@middleswarth.net" target="_blank">robert@middleswarth.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="im"> <div>On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite">What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?</blockquote> </div> Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.<br> <br> Thanks<br> Robert<br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div class="im"> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks,<br clear="all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> Dominic Kaiser<br> Greater Boston Vineyard<br> Director of Operations<br> <br> cell: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:617-230-1412" value="+16172301412" target="_blank">617-230-1412</a><br> fax: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:617-252-0238" value="+16172520238" target="_blank">617-252-0238</a><br> email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org" target="_blank">dominic@bostonvineyard.org</a><br> <br> <br> </div> <br> <fieldset></fieldset> <br> </div> <pre>_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> Dominic Kaiser<br> Greater Boston Vineyard<br> Director of Operations<br> <br> cell: 617-230-1412<br> fax: 617-252-0238<br> email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org">dominic@bostonvineyard.org</a><br> <br> <br> </div> </blockquote> <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------040407080708090106070809--

On 07/12/2012 06:08 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/12/2012 03:01 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong: No. There are no Fedora 16 Repo's
1. Uninstall 3.0 2. engine-cleanup do not drop database 3. Reinstall
Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc. Pretty certain this will break things badly.
The un-test but the way that should work is.
Uninstall oVirt 3.0 do not engine-clean Upgrade from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17. Add the beta repo's yum clean all Yum install ovirt-engine Run enginue-upgrade and follow it instructions
Has anyone else tested this? I just tried it on a test rig of F16 running 3.0, upgrading to 3.1 beta on F17. All the steps completed fine, except that I had to remove ovirt-engine-jbossas, which conflicted with the new, from Fedora, jboss-as, before installing ovirt-engine 3.1. After engine-upgrade completed, I wasn't able to access the engine. Jboss-as was stopped, as was httpd. Starting them up didn't make the engine accessible, though. I just got the default fedora pages for JBoss and for Apache. On my own oVirt setup, I moved from 3.0 to 3.1 by moving my VMs and templates to my export domain, detaching my export and iso domains, and installing 3.1 from scratch, before importing my iso and export domains and ferrying my VMs and templates over to my new data domain. What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users? Jason
Since I was stuck at the DMV all day I haven't had a change to test these instructions at all before doing these steps I would do a full backup of the DB and a snapshot of the system. If you can clone the system and do these steps on a clone even better.
Thanks Robert
dk
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Robert Middleswarth <robert@middleswarth.net <mailto:robert@middleswarth.net>> wrote:
On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?
Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.
Thanks Robert
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 <tel:617-230-1412> fax: 617-252-0238 <tel:617-252-0238> email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
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----- Original Message -----
On 07/12/2012 06:08 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/12/2012 03:01 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong: No. There are no Fedora 16 Repo's
1. Uninstall 3.0 2. engine-cleanup do not drop database 3. Reinstall
Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc. Pretty certain this will break things badly.
The un-test but the way that should work is.
Uninstall oVirt 3.0 do not engine-clean Upgrade from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17. Add the beta repo's yum clean all Yum install ovirt-engine Run enginue-upgrade and follow it instructions
I'm afraid this won't work, we changed so many things in the packaging/setup between 3.0 and 3.1
Has anyone else tested this? I just tried it on a test rig of F16 running 3.0, upgrading to 3.1 beta on F17. All the steps completed fine, except that I had to remove ovirt-engine-jbossas, which conflicted with the new, from Fedora, jboss-as, before installing ovirt-engine 3.1.
After engine-upgrade completed, I wasn't able to access the engine. Jboss-as was stopped, as was httpd. Starting them up didn't make the engine accessible, though. I just got the default fedora pages for JBoss and for Apache.
On my own oVirt setup, I moved from 3.0 to 3.1 by moving my VMs and templates to my export domain, detaching my export and iso domains, and installing 3.1 from scratch, before importing my iso and export domains and ferrying my VMs and templates over to my new data domain.
What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Since I was stuck at the DMV all day I haven't had a change to test these instructions at all before doing these steps I would do a full backup of the DB and a snapshot of the system. If you can clone the system and do these steps on a clone even better.
Thanks Robert
dk
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Robert Middleswarth <robert@middleswarth.net <mailto:robert@middleswarth.net>> wrote:
On 07/12/2012 11:23 AM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?
Testing is just getting started. We have an idea of the steps but no one has actually done them to see if the upgrade works or not.
Thanks Robert
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 <tel:617-230-1412> fax: 617-252-0238 <tel:617-252-0238> email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
cell: 617-230-1412 fax: 617-252-0238 email: dominic@bostonvineyard.org <mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org>
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
-- Jason Brooks Media & Communications Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat
identi.ca/jasonbrooks twitter.com/jasonbrooks
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From: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com> To: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:13:32 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
----- Original Message -----
On 07/12/2012 06:08 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:
On 07/12/2012 03:01 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
So does Fedora 16 have an Ovirt 3.1 repo? It seems best way to do this correct me if I am wrong: No. There are no Fedora 16 Repo's
1. Uninstall 3.0 2. engine-cleanup do not drop database 3. Reinstall
Good to go right? Will this mess with vm's already running etc. Pretty certain this will break things badly.
The un-test but the way that should work is.
Uninstall oVirt 3.0 do not engine-clean Upgrade from Fedora 16 to Fedora 17. Add the beta repo's yum clean all Yum install ovirt-engine Run enginue-upgrade and follow it instructions
I'm afraid this won't work, we changed so many things in the packaging/setup between 3.0 and 3.1
Has anyone else tested this? I just tried it on a test rig of F16 running 3.0, upgrading to 3.1 beta on F17. All the steps completed fine, except that I had to remove ovirt-engine-jbossas, which conflicted with the new, from Fedora, jboss-as, before installing ovirt-engine 3.1.
After engine-upgrade completed, I wasn't able to access the engine. Jboss-as was stopped, as was httpd. Starting them up didn't make the engine accessible, though. I just got the default fedora pages for JBoss and for Apache.
On my own oVirt setup, I moved from 3.0 to 3.1 by moving my VMs and templates to my export domain, detaching my export and iso domains, and installing 3.1 from scratch, before importing my iso and export domains and ferrying my VMs and templates over to my new data domain.
What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes. Thanks, Steve

What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out. Jason
Thanks,
Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:50:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out.
Jason
Hi Jason, Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at? Thanks, Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> To: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:01:05 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:50:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out.
Jason
Hi Jason,
Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at?
Here it is: http://fpaste.org/m3rt/ Jason
Thanks,
Steve

Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at?
Here it is: http://fpaste.org/m3rt/
Also, I confirmed that I can access the db using the user "engine" and the same password I'm giving the script.
Jason
Thanks,
Steve
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> To: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:01:05 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:50:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt 3.0 users?
Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out.
Jason
Hi Jason,
Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at?
Here it is: http://fpaste.org/m3rt/
looks like something is missing. do you still have the .pgpass file under /root? I see in the log:
Jason
Thanks,
Steve

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From: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> To: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:01:05 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:50:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
> > What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt > 3.0 > users? > > Jason
the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to Fedora 17 upgrade): 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll have to re-install your hosts 3. Do the fedora upgrade 4. install ovirt-engine rpms 5. run engine-setup - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user
in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not install it. we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out.
Jason
Hi Jason,
Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at?
Here it is: http://fpaste.org/m3rt/
looks like something is missing. do you still have the .pgpass file under /root?
I see in the log:
sent too early. in the log I can see: 2012-07-24 21:44:44::DEBUG::common_utils::286::root:: cmd = /usr/share/ovirt-engine/dbscripts/upgrade.sh -u engine -d engine_2012_07_24_21_44_44 -s localhost -p 5432 2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::291::root:: output = upgrade script detected a change in Config, View or Stored Procedure... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/add_comment_col_to_schema_version.sql ... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/add_object_column_white_list_table.sql ... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/config.sql ... 2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::292::root:: stderr = psql: fe_sendauth: no password supplied 2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::293::root:: retcode = 2 Also - I can't see any log about the multiple times you were asked to supply the DB pass.
Jason
Thanks,
Steve
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On Wed 25 Jul 2012 12:35:41 AM PDT, Ofer Schreiber wrote:
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From: "Jason Brooks" <jbrooks@redhat.com> To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon@redhat.com> Cc: "Ofer Schreiber" <oschreib@redhat.com>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:50:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
>> >> What's the most sane upgrade advice we can offer to oVirt >> 3.0 >> users? >> >> Jason > > the "sane" upgrade path (nothing is sane in Fedora 16 to > Fedora > 17 > upgrade): > 1. run engine-cleanup, do not drop DB > 2. remove all ovirt-engine rpms (including the JBoss one) > - please not that this will remove the PKI, so you'll > have > to > re-install your hosts > 3. Do the fedora upgrade > 4. install ovirt-engine rpms > 5. run engine-setup > - Give same passwords to the DB/admin user > > in this case, engine-setup should upgrade the db, and not > install > it. > we didn't tried this approach yet, so I'll appreciate any > input.
Can someone please try this out and verify it works? I'd like to include this process in the release notes.
I've been testing this path today. I get all the way to step 5, running engine-setup, and the script fails out after asking for my existing db password. The script asks for my password, over and over (I tried entering it like 25 times) and keeps on asking until I hit enter with a blank password a couple of times, at which point it fails out.
Jason
Hi Jason,
Any chance you could upload the engine-setup log somewhere for us to take a look at?
Here it is: http://fpaste.org/m3rt/
looks like something is missing. do you still have the .pgpass file under /root?
I see in the log:
sent too early. in the log I can see:
2012-07-24 21:44:44::DEBUG::common_utils::286::root:: cmd = /usr/share/ovirt-engine/dbscripts/upgrade.sh -u engine -d engine_2012_07_24_21_44_44 -s localhost -p 5432 2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::291::root:: output = upgrade script detected a change in Config, View or Stored Procedure... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/add_comment_col_to_schema_version.sql ... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/add_object_column_white_list_table.sql ... Running pre-upgrade script upgrade/pre_upgrade/config.sql ...
2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::292::root:: stderr = psql: fe_sendauth: no password supplied
2012-07-24 21:45:54::DEBUG::common_utils::293::root:: retcode = 2
Also - I can't see any log about the multiple times you were asked to supply the DB pass.
And yet it did prompt me multiple times for my password. I can take a screen capture if that helps.
Jason
Thanks,
Steve
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See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me. -Jacob ________________________________________ From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org] on behalf of Gavin Spurgeon [gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:35 AM To: users@ovirt.org Cc: Dale Macartney Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last.... I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade... Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ? Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ? Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ? Is this Documented yet ? - -- Gavin Spurgeon. AKA Da Geek - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes along their way.." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAihzAACgkQvp6arS3vDiqN0wCfblVQ2oS4hY0SCQ1xRID8MBxi 9LUAoLEt8MFkDoXG+jzynE5p2b4XtjVS =Or+C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message was scanned by DaGeek Spam Filter and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1..... oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option... - From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
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Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1..... oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option... - From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
________________________________________ From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org] on behalf of Gavin Spurgeon [gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:35 AM To: users@ovirt.org Cc: Dale Macartney Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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On 08/09/2012 02:35 PM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote: Eli/Ofer/Juan - what was the result of fixing the upgrade script to work from 3.0 to 3.1?
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On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1.....
oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option...
- From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
________________________________________ From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org] on behalf of Gavin Spurgeon [gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:35 AM To: users@ovirt.org Cc: Dale Macartney Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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So what is the answer we have to blow away our installations? What? That sounds like an awful way to upgrade. dk On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 08/09/2012 02:35 PM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote:
Eli/Ofer/Juan - what was the result of fixing the upgrade script to work from 3.0 to 3.1?
Hash: SHA1
On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1.....
oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option...
- From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
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Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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On 08/09/2012 11:41 PM, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
So what is the answer we have to blow away our installations? What? That sounds like an awful way to upgrade.
that is the question i asked below, so would wait for a reply first.
dk
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 08/09/2012 02:35 PM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote:
Eli/Ofer/Juan - what was the result of fixing the upgrade script to work from 3.0 to 3.1?
Hash: SHA1
On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1.....
oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option...
- From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
__________________________________________ From: users-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [users-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org>] on behalf of Gavin Spurgeon [gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk <mailto:gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk>] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:35 AM To: users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> Cc: Dale Macartney Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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TOP POSTING, as I got this question number of times: oVirt 3.0 was the first release of the oVirt project. It was based on Fedora16, and a special JBoss package (ovirt-engine-jbossas) which we created as a temporary solution until JBoss will get into Fedora. 3.1 is Fedora 17 based, and supports the official JBoss. Due to those huge changes (packaging wise mainly), our upgrade path is non-trivial. Actually, even if we didn't have the (huge) packaging changes, 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade would require a big amount of downtime, due to the need to upgrade you base OS (Fedora 16 to 17). As we mentioned in the release notes, we have two options to do the upgrade: 1. RECOMMENDED - Export all templates ans vms and import them into a new setup - Downtime depends on the total size of VMs + Templates 2. NOT RECOMMENDED - Follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_3.0_to_3.1_upgrade - Downtime depends on the F16 -> 17 upgrade + few manual steps I understand both flows are not perfect, but we had to do those changes. As a result, future upgrades should be much faster. Thanks, Ofer ----- Original Message -----
On 08/09/2012 02:35 PM, Gavin Spurgeon wrote:
Eli/Ofer/Juan - what was the result of fixing the upgrade script to work from 3.0 to 3.1?
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On 08/09/2012 11:55 AM, Jacob Wyatt wrote:
See the migration instructions at the bottom of the relese notes. Basically you shut down all of your VMs, export them to your export domain. Now all you have to do is preserve that export domain storage. Everything else should be blown away and rebuilt as a completely new install. Then you import that storage domain you saved and restore the VM's. It worked just fine for me.
But this requires that my entire Production Environment being off-line, to do a point update of the oVirt from 3.0 to 3.1.....
oVirt Nodes can run without a Manager being present and all Guest will stay Up and running. What if, Taking the whole environment off line, is not an option...
- From a DR point of view, oVirt needs a Backup solution to backup the Manager, and more importantly a Restore Option that would mean you can bring an oVirt Manager Back online without the whole lot being off-line.
________________________________________ From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [users-bounces@ovirt.org] on behalf of Gavin Spurgeon [gspurgeon@dageek.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:35 AM To: users@ovirt.org Cc: Dale Macartney Subject: Re: [Users] Wondering about updating ovirt from 3.0 to 3.1
Hi All,
I know I am not the 1st to ask, and I know I will not be the last....
I have oVirt3.0 on F16, The Release Notes for 3.1 give a guide on how to upgrade oVirt to 3.1 via a Fedora Upgrade...
Can I do the same thing via a Clean Install of F17 (I do not like Upgrades of OS's) ?
Or is there a documented DR procedure assuming the host was backed up and a new Host/OS had to be used to get oVirt back on-line ?
Basically, What do I need to backup to then bring down the F16/oVirt3.0 Box and replace it with a F17/oVirt3.1 Box ?
Is this Documented yet ?
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070009070609040605060101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the safer way is to uninstall ovirt 3.0 and reinstall 3.1 after 3.0 is cleaned. On 2012-7-12 23:23, Dominic Kaiser wrote:
What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already?
Thanks,
-- Dominic Kaiser Greater Boston Vineyard Director of Operations
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-- Shu Ming <shuming@linux.vnet.ibm.com> IBM China Systems and Technology Laboratory --------------070009070609040605060101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think the safer way is to uninstall ovirt 3.0 and reinstall 3.1 after 3.0 is cleaned.<br> On 2012-7-12 23:23, Dominic Kaiser wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAOZfw6trN7xP-tRE9RnKj5R4LCEADe_yQQLheacyqks3hU0Xhg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">What is the proper process for this in ovirt? Or has someone done it already? <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks,<br clear="all"> <div><br> </div> -- <br> Dominic Kaiser<br> Greater Boston Vineyard<br> Director of Operations<br> <br> cell: 617-230-1412<br> fax: 617-252-0238<br> email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dominic@bostonvineyard.org">dominic@bostonvineyard.org</a><br> <br> <br> </div> <br> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> <br> <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Shu Ming <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:shuming@linux.vnet.ibm.com"><shuming@linux.vnet.ibm.com></a> IBM China Systems and Technology Laboratory</pre> </body> </html> --------------070009070609040605060101--
participants (9)
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Dominic Kaiser
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Gavin Spurgeon
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Itamar Heim
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Jacob Wyatt
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Jason Brooks
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Ofer Schreiber
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Robert Middleswarth
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Shu Ming
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Steve Gordon