[Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted?

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From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part bas= ed on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm packa= ge.=0AI assume this is a related bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.= cgi?id=3D1009100=0AFrom what I can infer from this there is a related issue= with vdsm that needs handling as well?=0A=0A=0AFrom a feature parity persp= ective against Vmware Vcenter (Enterprise plus) this is a very important fe= ature.=0AI can think of a number of Vmware shops that wouldn't look an a co= mpeting hypervisor management platform without this feature working.=A0 I t= hink this would be a key milestone for ovirt to get to.=0A=0A=0AIs this som= ething that is likely to be worked out for the 3.4.1 timeframe or is it now= a 3.5 issue?=0A=0AThanks.=0A --708812334-518474266-1396250262=:21835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He= lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;fo= nt-size:12pt"><div><span>From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a leas= t the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due t= o an older qemu-kvm package.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);= font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial= ,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: norma= l;"><span>I assume this is a related bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_= bug.cgi?id=3D1009100</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-si= ze: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida = Grande,Sans-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">From= what I can infer from this there is a related issue with vdsm that needs h= andling as well?<br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16p= x; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sa= ns-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br><span></s= pan></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: = HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif; back= ground-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>From a feature parity= perspective against Vmware Vcenter (Enterprise plus) this is a very import= ant feature.</span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px= ; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,S= ans-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I can think = of a number of Vmware shops that wouldn't look an a competing hypervisor ma= nagement platform without this feature working. I think this would be= a key milestone for ovirt to get to.<br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif; background-color: transpare= nt; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-= size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucid= a Grande,Sans-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Is= this something that is likely to be worked out for the 3.4.1 timeframe or = is it now a 3.5 issue?</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 1= 6px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grand= e,Sans-Serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div=
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050008010704080501000707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote:
From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm package.
AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec. I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of this 3rd party repo: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/ I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each node. I didn't need to update vdsm. Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need live storage migration. My nodes run Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3 I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH. --------------050008010704080501000707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:1396250262.21835.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com" type="cite"> <div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:12pt"> <div><span>From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm package.</span></div> </div> </blockquote> <br> AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec.<br> <br> I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of this 3rd party repo: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/">http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/</a><br> <br> I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each node. I didn't need to update vdsm. <br> <br> Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need live storage migration.<br> <br> My nodes run Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3<br> <br> I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH.<br> </body> </html> --------------050008010704080501000707--

On 03/31/2014 07:11 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote:
On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote:
From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm package.
AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec.
I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of this 3rd party repo: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/
I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each node. I didn't need to update vdsm.
Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need live storage migration.
My nodes run Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3
I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH.
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upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, which is without these features. we are working with CentOS to provide this. until then, we are building it nightly from CentOS sources here: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/All/job/qemu-kvm-rhev_create_rpms_el6/lastSucc...

Sorry if I have to correct you or I didn't understand you correctly but do you mean RHEL doesn't provide these compiler flag in their qemu-kvm version? Because I think they do: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qemu... There is also a BZ somewhere. R P Herrold could say something about this I guess. CC'ing him. Am 04.04.2014 17:30, schrieb Itamar Heim:
upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, which is without these features.
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On 04/05/2014 01:32 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
Sorry if I have to correct you or I didn't understand you correctly but do you mean RHEL doesn't provide these compiler flag in their qemu-kvm version?
Because I think they do:
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qemu...
There is also a BZ somewhere.
R P Herrold could say something about this I guess. CC'ing him.
RHEL uses: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qemu-k...
Am 04.04.2014 17:30, schrieb Itamar Heim:
upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, which is without these features.

Ah, okay, now I'm totally confused and really don't know where this other package comes from. I was really thinking it was used. Thanks for your correction. Am 05.04.2014 23:15, schrieb Itamar Heim:
RHEL uses: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qemu-k...
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2014-04-07 10:26 GMT+02:00 Sven Kieske <S.Kieske@mittwald.de>:
Ah, okay, now I'm totally confused and really don't know where this other package comes from.
I was really thinking it was used.
Thanks for your correction.
Am 05.04.2014 23:15, schrieb Itamar Heim:
RHEL uses: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qemu-k...
http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qemu... is the source rpm for the binary used in RHEV commercial product
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Federico Alberto Sayd
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Itamar Heim
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Paul Jansen
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Sven Kieske