[Users] vlan on mgmt network

Hi William, You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the list:-) ). Regards,

--1100272424-1189192330-1389982551=:51872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6=0A=0AA= ssaf mentioned the following which is true.=0AYou can make ovirtmgmt a non-= VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then placeas many VM, tagged networks as y= ou'd like on the same NIC or bond.=0A=0AI tried a few things and I haven't = been able to find a way through.=A0 Obviously or not, there are more facts/= rules.=A0 Just put up a few of them here=0A=0ACannot have more than one non= -VLAN network on one interface=0A=0ACannot have a non-VLAN VM network and V= LAN-tagged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLA= N-tagged VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).=0A= =0AI'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>.=A0 I need to have=0Abond0 - for = both mgmt network and a vlan=0Abond1 - for another subnet.=0A=0AWill=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jp= lorier@gmail.com> wrote:=0A =0AHi William,=0A=0AYou can have several logica= l networks on the same interface. If=0Aovirtmgmt is not a vm network you ca= n even mix tagged and untagged=0Anetworks (if not, you can't mix). You don'= s have to do anything besides=0Acreating the logical networks in ovirt and = assign them to the=0A interface,=0Aovirt takes care of creating the virtual= interfaces it needs.=0AWhat you can't do is have more than one logical net= work per vlan (I=0Athink there's a feature request on this, I know I've ask= ed it on the=0A=0Alist:-) ).=0ARegards, --1100272424-1189192330-1389982551=:51872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He= lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo= nt-size:12pt"><div id=3D"yiv5726770232"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;backg= round-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria= l, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id=3D"yiv5726770232"><di= v id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23530"><div class=3D"yi= v5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23447" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_1= 3_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23529" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;fo= nt-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, s= ans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937= 140450_10"><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_16">Than= ks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6</span></di= v><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23448" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0= , 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helveti= ca, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-st= yle:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_28"><b= r clear=3D"none"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1= 389913466155_23449" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" s= tyle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helve= tica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:= transparent;font-style:normal;">Assaf mentioned the following which is true= .</div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23450" id= =3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0= , 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,= Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span class=3D= "yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23451" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_= 3_13_0_ym1_1_1389937140450_13668" style=3D"font-family:monospace;font-size:= 13px;">You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then p= lace</span></div><span class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155= _23452" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_102" style=3D"fon= t-family:monospace;font-size:13px;">as many VM, tagged networks as you'd li= ke on the same NIC or bond.</span><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1= _1_1389913466155_23453" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_1= 0" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'H= elvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-co= lor:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1= _7_1389937140450_94"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23456" id=3D"yiv57267= 70232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-si= ze:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Luc= ida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><s= pan id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_45" style=3D"backgrou= nd-color:transparent;">I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find= a way through. Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. J= ust put up a few of them here<br></span><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0= _ym1_7_1389937140450_124" style=3D"background-color:transparent;"><br>Canno= t have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface</span><br clear=3D"n= one"></div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23458"= id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0= , 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helveti= ca, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal= ;"><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_127" style=3D"ba= ckground-color:transparent;">Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tag= ged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagge= d VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).<br><br>I'll= try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I need to have<br>bond0 - f= or both mgmt network and a vlan<br>bond1 - for another subnet.<br><br>Will<= br id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_132" clear=3D"none"></= span></div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23460"= id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0= , 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helveti= ca, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-st= yle:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_129" style=3D"background-color:transparent;"><br id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_= ym1_7_1389937140450_137" clear=3D"none"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv57267= 70232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23462" id=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym= 1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-famil= y:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-= serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv57267= 70232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_134" style=3D"background-color:transpar= ent;"><br></span></div><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yqt1481005012" id=3D"yiv5= 726770232yqt89387"><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yqt5736431373" id=3D"yiv57267= 70232yqt47997"><div class=3D"yiv5726770232yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv5726770232= yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_12" style=3D"display: block;"> <br clear=3D"= none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389= 937140450_3160 yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23465" style=3D"= font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt= ;"> <div class=3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389937140450_3161 yiv57267= 70232yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23466" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNe= ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:1= 2pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Thursday, Janu= ary 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier@gmail.com>=0A wrote= :<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> <div class=3D"yiv5726770232y_msg_conta= iner">Hi William,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">You can have several= logical networks on the same interface. If<br clear=3D"none">ovirtmgmt is = not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged<br clear=3D"none">net= works (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides<br cle= ar=3D"none">creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the= =0A interface,<br clear=3D"none">ovirt takes care of creating the virtual i= nterfaces it needs.<br clear=3D"none">What you can't do is have more than o= ne logical network per vlan (I<br clear=3D"none">think there's a feature re= quest on this, I know I've asked it on the<div class=3D"yiv5726770232yqt080= 9014271" id=3D"yiv5726770232yqtfd57487"><br clear=3D"none">list:-) ).<br cl= ear=3D"none">Regards,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear= =3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> </di= v></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html> --1100272424-1189192330-1389982551=:51872--

</div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <di= v style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lu= cida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helv= eticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; fon= t-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Frida= y, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv4889462393= "><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Helvetica= Neue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id= =3D"yiv4889462393"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font= -family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, san= s-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div id=3D"yiv4889462393"><div id=3D"yiv4889462393= yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23530"><div class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0= _ym1_1_1389913466155_23447" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_13899134661= 55_23529" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNe= ue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:1= 2pt;"><div id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10"><span id= =3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_16">Thanks all for the info= . I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6</span></div><div class=3D"yiv= 4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23448" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13= _0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, = Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:= normal;"><span id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_28"><br cl= ear=3D"none"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_13899= 13466155_23449" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style= =3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica= Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:tran= sparent;font-style:normal;">Assaf mentioned the following which is true.</d= iv><div class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23450" id=3D"y= iv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);= font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Aria= l, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:norm= al;"><span class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23451" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389937140450_13668" style=3D"font-fam= ily:monospace;font-size:13px;">You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (n= on-VLAN) network, then place</span></div><span class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_= 13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23452" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937= 140450_102" style=3D"font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;">as many VM, tag= ged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond.</span><div class=3D"yiv= 4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23453" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13= _0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-= family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', = sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv= 4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_94"><br clear=3D"none"></span></di= v><div class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23456" id=3D"yi= v4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, = Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:= normal;"><span id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_45" style= =3D"background-color:transparent;">I tried a few things and I haven't been = able to find a way through. Obviously or not, there are more facts/ru= les. Just put up a few of them here<br clear=3D"none"></span><span id= =3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_124" style=3D"background-co= lor:transparent;"><br clear=3D"none">Cannot have more than one non-VLAN net= work on one interface</span><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv48894= 62393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155_23458" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym= 1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-famil= y:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-= serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_127" style=3D"background= -color:transparent;">Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged netw= orks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM net= work on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).<br clear=3D"none"><= br clear=3D"none">I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I nee= d to have<br clear=3D"none">bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan<br cle= ar=3D"none">bond1 - for another subnet.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none= ">Will<br id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_132" clear=3D"n= one"></span></div><div class=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1389913466155= _23460" id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_10" style=3D"colo= r:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', = Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;background-color:transparent;= font-style:normal;"><span id=3D"yiv4889462393yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450= _129"
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On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote:
OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only
you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)?
Will
On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6
Assaf mentioned the following which is true. You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then place as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond.
I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of them here
Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).
I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I need to have bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan bond1 - for another subnet.
Will
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier@gmail.com> wrote: Hi William,
You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the
list:-) ). Regards,
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On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote:
I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by adding ifcfg-bond0.102 manually and restarted network services.
why not via ovirt-engine?
On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote: On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote:
OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only
you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)?
Will
On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok@yahoo.com
<mailto:potatok@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6
Assaf mentioned the following which is true. You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then place as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond.
I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of them here
Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).
I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I need to have bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan bond1 - for another subnet.
Will
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi William,
You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the
list:-) ). Regards,
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it..... I will keep trying, Thanks for the tips. P. On 17 January 2014 22:06, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote:
I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by adding ifcfg-bond0.102 manually and restarted network services.
why not via ovirt-engine?
On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote: On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote:
OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only
you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)?
Will
On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok@yahoo.com
Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6
Assaf mentioned the following which is true. You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then
as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond.
I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of
<mailto:potatok@yahoo.com>> wrote: place them
here
Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).
I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I need to have bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan bond1 - for another subnet.
Will
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi William,
You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the
list:-) ). Regards,
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote:
So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it.....
this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps?
I will keep trying, Thanks for the tips. P.
On 17 January 2014 22:06, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote:
I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by adding ifcfg-bond0.102 manually and restarted network services.
why not via ovirt-engine?
On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote: On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote: > OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 > I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. > It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only
you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)?
> > Will > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok@yahoo.com <mailto:potatok@yahoo.com> <mailto:potatok@yahoo.com <mailto:potatok@yahoo.com>>> wrote: > Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6 > > Assaf mentioned the following which is true. > You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then place > as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond. > > I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. > Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of them > here > > Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface > Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one > interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on > the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network). > > I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>. I need to have > bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan > bond1 - for another subnet. > > Will > > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier > <jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com> <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com <mailto:jplorier@gmail.com>>> wrote: > Hi William, > > You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If > ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged > networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides > creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, > ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. > What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I > think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the > > list:-) ). > Regards,
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On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote:
So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it.....
this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps?
Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png. Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out. Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of physical eth0 device. Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy default cluster and create new local one. Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this. Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=1, restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 Peter

Hi Peter, Try to check if ovirmgmt is defined in the vlan you desire (or without vlan). Maybe when you sync ovirt is trying to configure the network with options different from what you desire. I never got ovirt to finish properly to install a host, it fails to get ovirtmgmt working right so I always manually configure the vlan interfaces and the ovirtmgmt bridge in the hosts. You can get your host back if you manually correct the network, also you may take a look of what ovirt configured to try to find out if something is not set properly in the network definition. Regards El ene 18, 2014 7:56 PM, "Peter Styk" <polfilm@gmail.com> escribió:
On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote:
So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it.....
this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps?
Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png. Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out.
Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of physical eth0 device.
Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy default cluster and create new local one.
Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this.
Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=1, restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins
still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24
Peter

There is an open bug in regards to configuring the management network on top of a vlan: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906359 The system stability might get worse due to the new feature "multi host network configuration" which applies logical network changes to the entire DC's hosts. ----- Original Message -----
From: jplorier@gmail.com To: "Peter Styk" <polfilm@gmail.com> Cc: "William Kwan" <potatok@yahoo.com>, "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:31:31 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network
Hi Peter,
Try to check if ovirmgmt is defined in the vlan you desire (or without vlan). Maybe when you sync ovirt is trying to configure the network with options different from what you desire. I never got ovirt to finish properly to install a host, it fails to get ovirtmgmt working right so I always manually configure the vlan interfaces and the ovirtmgmt bridge in the hosts. You can get your host back if you manually correct the network, also you may take a look of what ovirt configured to try to find out if something is not set properly in the network definition. Regards El ene 18, 2014 7:56 PM, "Peter Styk" < polfilm@gmail.com > escribió:
On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim < iheim@redhat.com > wrote:
On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote:
So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it.....
this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps?
Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png . Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out.
Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of physical eth0 device.
Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy default cluster and create new local one.
Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this.
Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=1, restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins
still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24
Peter
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Hi Peter, Sorry for being late to the party. I hope you and William are working on the same deployment so I'll be responding to both of you. On 18/01/14 23:56, Peter Styk wrote:
On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote:
So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it.....
So basically what you're saying is that switching the management network to non-VM while it is provisioned on hosts, then trying to synchronize it, leads to loss of connection? We'll need to have a look.
this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps?
Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png. Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out.
Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of physical eth0 device.
Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy default cluster and create new local one.
Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this.
From the above information I understand that you are still in the initial stages of installation and are not scared of starting anew. If
that is the case, I would suggest that you do start from a clean DC again. Try to configure the management network as non-VM prior to adding any host, then add the hosts. As far as I know, this should provision the network correctly on the hosts to begin with (it should work when synchronizing it as well, but let's try this way and see if it works better).
Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=1, restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins
still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 <http://10.0.0.0/24>
Peter
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Itamar Heim
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jplorier@gmail.com
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Juan Pablo Lorier
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Lior Vernia
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Moti Asayag
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Peter Styk
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William Kwan