I am having hard time installing OVIrt. Gluster deployment for the single node sometimes work, but host engine deployment never works. Any one has suggestion on which release of OVirt to use as a beginner.
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it.
I've been running hosted engine on a single host for a few years now with no issue. I did redo my initial install several times but its been fine ever since. I started at 4.0.x and have gone through multiple OS and ovirt upgrades with few issues. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 4:47:12 PM michael@wanderingmad.com wrote:
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/7TAEQR6SZKQM2Y...
Disagree, I've had some pretty significant meltdowns and if you cant access hosted engine, go have drink and try again... It comes up. It's ability to self-repair and find a scrap of a host to run on is pretty impressive. On Fri, May 10, 2019, 2:18 PM Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote:
I've been running hosted engine on a single host for a few years now with no issue. I did redo my initial install several times but its been fine ever since. I started at 4.0.x and have gone through multiple OS and ovirt upgrades with few issues.
-derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 4:47:12 PM michael@wanderingmad.com wrote:
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives:
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I have used both hosted and standalone engine and can tell that so far I had more issues with hosted engine than with standalone one. Not like huge issues, but something like you put host in to global HA maintenance, then update hosted engine, reboot and... and it doesn't start. Not a big deal, but for a new user it might be a bit confusing. So am with Michael, if you just starting using oVirt then it's better to have standalone engine et first. And then migrate it over into hosted environment when you are comfortable to do so. Fil -- Dmitry Filonov Linux Administrator SBGrid Core | Harvard Medical School 250 Longwood Ave, SGM-114 Boston, MA 02115 On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:00 PM Vincent Royer <vincent@epicenergy.ca> wrote:
Disagree, I've had some pretty significant meltdowns and if you cant access hosted engine, go have drink and try again... It comes up. It's ability to self-repair and find a scrap of a host to run on is pretty impressive.
On Fri, May 10, 2019, 2:18 PM Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote:
I've been running hosted engine on a single host for a few years now with no issue. I did redo my initial install several times but its been fine ever since. I started at 4.0.x and have gone through multiple OS and ovirt upgrades with few issues.
-derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 4:47:12 PM michael@wanderingmad.com wrote:
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives:
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The only issue I've had is that it can take 15 minutes before the HE starts... And I have to ensure the host is taken out of maintenance mode manually. Beyond that, it has recovered from many updates, reboots, and power hits without intervention. -derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 9:16:02 PM Dmitry Filonov <filonov@hkl.hms.harvard.edu> wrote:
I have used both hosted and standalone engine and can tell that so far I had more issues with hosted engine than with standalone one. Not like huge issues, but something like you put host in to global HA maintenance, then update hosted engine, reboot and... and it doesn't start. Not a big deal, but for a new user it might be a bit confusing. So am with Michael, if you just starting using oVirt then it's better to have standalone engine et first. And then migrate it over into hosted environment when you are comfortable to do so.
Fil
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:00 PM Vincent Royer <vincent@epicenergy.ca> wrote: Disagree, I've had some pretty significant meltdowns and if you cant access hosted engine, go have drink and try again... It comes up. It's ability to self-repair and find a scrap of a host to run on is pretty impressive.
On Fri, May 10, 2019, 2:18 PM Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote: I've been running hosted engine on a single host for a few years now with no issue. I did redo my initial install several times but its been fine ever since. I started at 4.0.x and have gone through multiple OS and ovirt upgrades with few issues.
-derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 4:47:12 PM michael@wanderingmad.com wrote:
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/7TAEQR6SZKQM2Y...
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Absolutely. It is Rock solid. It is great idea and definitely way to go when you are comfortable with the technology. But for the new user it might be confusing at first. And in general it adds a bit of complexity that you don't need. Especially if you do have that extra piece of hardware to use for it in the beginning. Fil On Fri, May 10, 2019, 9:20 PM Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote:
The only issue I've had is that it can take 15 minutes before the HE starts... And I have to ensure the host is taken out of maintenance mode manually. Beyond that, it has recovered from many updates, reboots, and power hits without intervention.
-derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
On May 10, 2019 9:16:02 PM Dmitry Filonov <filonov@hkl.hms.harvard.edu> wrote:
I have used both hosted and standalone engine and can tell that so far I had more issues with hosted engine than with standalone one. Not like huge issues, but something like you put host in to global HA maintenance, then update hosted engine, reboot and... and it doesn't start. Not a big deal, but for a new user it might be a bit confusing. So am with Michael, if you just starting using oVirt then it's better to have standalone engine et first. And then migrate it over into hosted environment when you are comfortable to do so.
Fil
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On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:00 PM Vincent Royer <vincent@epicenergy.ca> wrote:
Disagree, I've had some pretty significant meltdowns and if you cant access hosted engine, go have drink and try again... It comes up. It's ability to self-repair and find a scrap of a host to run on is pretty impressive.
On Fri, May 10, 2019, 2:18 PM Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote:
I've been running hosted engine on a single host for a few years now with no issue. I did redo my initial install several times but its been fine ever since. I started at 4.0.x and have gone through multiple OS and ovirt upgrades with few issues.
-derek Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos. On May 10, 2019 4:47:12 PM michael@wanderingmad.com wrote:
Honestly? don't do hosted engine deployment first. If you're just getting started with ovirt, you're going to waste weeks on getting hosted engine running, and then I guarantee once it's running, it's not going to come up when you need it most. Just load your single host, and then load the engine on a separate VM/Machine to manage it. I have the engine running on a separate machine so just in case there is a host issue, you can still access the engine to fix it. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives:
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I'm glad to hear i'm in the minority! I had the worst luck with struggling to get it loaded, then once it was loaded, I ran great, until it didn't, and have to wait and wait for it to load while the host rebooted and trying to figure out why it wasn't coming up just drove me crazy. Although I ran it on 3 nodes so I had to track down where it migrated too.
I am currently at the point that I am thinking on giving up and start playing more with Proxmox. Do you guys have any suggestion on what instructions I should use? I just want to setup something to get a better idea on how everything works before I go to more advance things. Currently, downloading Ovirt Node from https://www.ovirt.org/download/node.html and running Cockpit does not work form me. On Friday, May 10, 2019, 7:54:39 PM PDT, <michael@wanderingmad.com> wrote: I'm glad to hear i'm in the minority! I had the worst luck with struggling to get it loaded, then once it was loaded, I ran great, until it didn't, and have to wait and wait for it to load while the host rebooted and trying to figure out why it wasn't coming up just drove me crazy. Although I ran it on 3 nodes so I had to track down where it migrated too. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/P4VQHNED55IT55...
Hi, When I installed oVirt (on CentOS 7.2 using 4.0.x in October 2016) I used the following sets of instructions: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/red-hat-virtualization/4.0/paged/... http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/how-to/hosted-engine/#fresh-install I did take a few trials to get it right. I made sure I had CentOS fully installed, set up my local file systems, NFS (for storage domains), permissions, networking, etc. Then I installed and did the hosted-engine --deploy Then in the hosted engine VM I also installed CentOS manually and installed the hosted engine itself. It did take me a while to get it all right. I did need to run hosted-engine-cleanup.sh at least once. :) But it's been very solid for almost 3 years now. I'm due for another upgrade soon. -derek Slobodan Stevanovic <slobastev@yahoo.com> writes:
I am currently at the point that I am thinking on giving up and start playing more with Proxmox.
Do you guys have any suggestion on what instructions I should use? I just want to setup something to get a better idea on how everything works before I go to more advance things.
Currently, downloading Ovirt Node from https://www.ovirt.org/download/node.html and running Cockpit does not work form me.
On Friday, May 10, 2019, 7:54:39 PM PDT, <michael@wanderingmad.com> wrote:
I'm glad to hear i'm in the minority! I had the worst luck with struggling to get it loaded, then once it was loaded, I ran great, until it didn't, and have to wait and wait for it to load while the host rebooted and trying to figure out why it wasn't coming up just drove me crazy. Although I ran it on 3 nodes so I had to track down where it migrated too.
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On 10-5-2019 19:20, Slobodan Stevanovic wrote:
I am having hard time installing OVIrt.
Gluster deployment for the single node sometimes work, but host engine deployment never works.
Any one has suggestion on which release of OVirt to use as a beginner.
Could you tell what problems you're having and what documentation you're following? I just did a hyperconverged hosted-engine setup on a single server using the cockpit installer and had just 2 problems: - firewall-cmd uses glusterfs as a service name and that isn't installed, its in glusterfs-server rpm but that isn't installed for some reason. - multipath problems but that could be my problem, anyway I manually blacklisted both my SSD gluster drives. Going todo it tomorrow again to get a collegue to work on it so if anything comes up I'll post it here. Joop
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