[Users] vmware image conversion
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On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well). thanks, Itamar
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it -----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well). thanks, Itamar
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua...
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format -----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently.
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other,
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there. Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue? -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite?
If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there. Ted Miller Elkhart, IN _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it? -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite?
If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it? -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite?
If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Yes. So: VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v no? If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Yes. So: VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v no? If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Hi, Maurice, Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) format? Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server -Lei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> To: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com>, "Ted Miller" <tmiller@hcjb.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Yes. So: VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v no? If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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Or used #qemu-img convert esxxxx.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion -Lei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lei Cui" <lcui@redhat.com> To: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Hi, Maurice, Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) format? Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server -Lei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> To: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com>, "Ted Miller" <tmiller@hcjb.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Yes. So: VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v no? If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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Trying it out now -----Original Message----- From: Lei Cui [mailto:lcui@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:23 PM To: Maurice James Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Or used #qemu-img convert esxxxx.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion -Lei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lei Cui" <lcui@redhat.com> To: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Hi, Maurice, Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) format? Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server -Lei ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> To: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com>, "Ted Miller" <tmiller@hcjb.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it? -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion Yes. So: VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v no? If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. -Bob On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it here.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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On 02/20/2014 05:34 AM, Maurice James wrote:
Trying it out now
-----Original Message----- From: Lei Cui [mailto:lcui@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:23 PM To: Maurice James Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Or used #qemu-img convert esxxxx.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion
-Lei
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lei Cui" <lcui@redhat.com> To: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Hi, Maurice, Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) format? Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server
-Lei
----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> To: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com>, "Ted Miller" <tmiller@hcjb.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Yes. So:
VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v
no?
If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: > I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. > I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to > get some eyes on it here. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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1. i re-opened the RFE on converting a vmware image directly, though not sure yet when someone we'll get to it. 2. you can always try the p2v approach?
I have used this method successfully several times, but the problem is, this only converts the format of the image, it doesn't do any tweaks to the actual image needed to boot it in the new environment. Windows for example, is likely to blue screen because it's not very good at detecting boot disk controller changes. This is what the merge-ide script does, it relaxes the Windows checks on boot for new disk controllers. Search for my post about how I converted my Windows guest from ESX to ovirt. On 2/19/2014 9:23 PM, Lei Cui wrote:
Or used #qemu-img convert esxxxx.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion
-Lei
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lei Cui" <lcui@redhat.com> To: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Hi, Maurice, Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) format? Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server
-Lei
----- Original Message ----- From: "Maurice James" <midnightsteel@msn.com> To: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com>, "Ted Miller" <tmiller@hcjb.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
Yes. So:
VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v
no?
If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: > I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. > I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to > get some eyes on it here. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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--------------000803060003040300090706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/19/2014 8:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yes. So:
VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v
no? NO!!!
You apparently have not done this, only talk about it? The last step (ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v) doesn't work. It had problems with some images, and they pulled it completely from current versions of virt-v2v. See https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html Ted Miller
If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: > I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I > think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get > some eyes on it here. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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-- "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose." - - Jim Elliot For more information about Jim Elliot and his unusual life, see http://www.christianliteratureandliving.com/march2003/carolyn.html. Ted Miller Design Engineer HCJB Global Technology Center 2830 South 17th St Elkhart, IN 46517 574--970-4272 my desk 574--970-4252 receptionist --------------000803060003040300090706 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> On 2/19/2014 8:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:<br> <blockquote cite="mid:53056042.1010207@doolittle.us.com" type="cite">Yes. <br> So: <br> <br> VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then <br> ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v <br> <br> no? <br> </blockquote> <big><big>NO!!!</big></big><br> <br> You apparently have not done this, only talk about it? The last step (ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v) doesn't work. It had problems with some images, and they pulled it completely from current versions of virt-v2v. See <a href="https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html">https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html</a><br> <br> Ted Miller<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:53056042.1010207@doolittle.us.com" type="cite">If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it. <br> <br> -Bob <br> <br> On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt <br> <br> -----Original Message----- <br> From: Bob Doolittle [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com">mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com</a>] <br> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM <br> To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a> <br> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion <br> <br> My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware <br> non-ESX VMs into ESX format. <br> Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it? <br> <br> -Bob <br> <br> On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with <br> WONTFIX <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910</a> . Why is this such <br> a touchy issue? <br> <br> -----Original Message----- <br> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces@ovirt.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] On <br> Behalf Of Ted Miller <br> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM <br> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a> <br> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion <br> <br> <br> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. <br> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx <br> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format <br> <br> -----Original Message----- <br> From: Itamar Heim [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com">mailto:iheim@redhat.com</a>] <br> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM <br> To: Maurice James; 'users' <br> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion <br> <br> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">According to this <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html">https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html</a> <br> It does not do it <br> </blockquote> please review: <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris">https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris</a> <br> e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html <br> <br> <blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message----- <br> From: Itamar Heim [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:iheim@redhat.com">mailto:iheim@redhat.com</a>] <br> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM <br> To: Maurice James; 'users' <br> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion <br> <br> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I <br> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get <br> some eyes on it here. <br> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910</a> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________ <br> Users mailing list <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> <br> <br> </blockquote> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in <br> the bug as well). <br> <br> thanks, <br> Itamar <br> <br> </blockquote> </blockquote> iirc, you need an ESX currently. <br> </blockquote> Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. <br> ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying <br> to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works <br> fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on <br> VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a <br> </blockquote> kite? <br> <blockquote type="cite">If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, <br> I may bring up ESXi and stay there. <br> <br> Ted Miller <br> Elkhart, IN <br> <br> _______________________________________________ <br> Users mailing list <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> <br> _______________________________________________ <br> Users mailing list <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a> <br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a> <br> </blockquote> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="77">-- "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose." - - Jim Elliot For more information about Jim Elliot and his unusual life, see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.christianliteratureandliving.com/march2003/carolyn.html">http://www.christianliteratureandliving.com/march2003/carolyn.html</a>. 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One of the issues I have with virt-v2v is that it requires an import storage domain on your ovirt server to import the image to, then you need to copy that image again into your vm datastore. Lots of data moving around slow gigabit networks. oVirt still needs a way to easily add a vm disk image w/o having to go through the silly import method. On 2/19/2014 7:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yes. So:
VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v
no?
If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does not do it
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: > I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I > think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get > some eyes on it here. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug as well).
thanks, Itamar
iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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On 02/21/2014 12:59 AM, Blaster wrote:
One of the issues I have with virt-v2v is that it requires an import storage domain on your ovirt server to import the image to, then you need to copy that image again into your vm datastore. Lots of data moving around slow gigabit networks.
this could probably be improved with the "import data domain" planned now (as it will allow to detect orphan disks/vm's and register them). http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/arch/2014-February/002004.html http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/arch/2014-February/001943.html
oVirt still needs a way to easily add a vm disk image w/o having to go through the silly import method.
On 2/19/2014 7:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yes. So:
VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v
no?
If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:bob@doolittle.us.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format. Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
-Bob
On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a touchy issue?
-----Original Message----- From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Ted Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
-----Original Message----- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM To: Maurice James; 'users' Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote: > According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html > It does not do it please review: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
> -----Original Message----- > From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM > To: Maurice James; 'users' > Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion > > On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote: >> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I >> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get >> some eyes on it here. >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in > the bug as well). > > thanks, > Itamar > iirc, you need an ESX currently. Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this. ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on. I am trying to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5. Works fine, but there is no migration path. Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, older products. We just get told to go fly a kite? If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
Ted Miller Elkhart, IN
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