[Users] Do I really have to use ISO uploader?

I’m trying to move from ESXi to KVM/OVIRT. To attach an ISO to a CDROM under ESXi, I just have to add the NFS share with all my ISOs, then go to the CDROM and attach one of the ISO images and away I go. Under OVIRT, it seems like I have to create yet another datastore, use engine-iso-upload which will create yet another copy of the ISO, before I can attach it to a virtual CD device. Please tell me I missed something in my hours of searching that this isn’t true, that I don’t really have to duplicate each ISO that I already have on a NAS NFS share, to yet another copy that OVIRT can use. There also doesn’t seem to be a nice way to take a disk image and simply click “add to inventory” like I can with ESXi, that I have to use image uploader to create yet another copy of the image and wait for it to copy a 100G file before I can create a VM out of it. Thanks for any suggestions on making this process easier.

Agreed. Many of us already have an existing directory of ISOs which is NFS-shared, (I created mine while using VirtualBox for several years) and would simply like to use it. This is an issue which is on the To-Do list, but unfortunately didn't make the first cut for 3.3.2 recently. From what I understand, it should not be terribly difficult to change oVirt to utilize it. I believe it was Itamar who previously described a way on IRC to use symlinks to refer to existing ISOs. It seems like most of the competition allows a VM to access any file path for an ISO, rather than having to copy it into a storage domain first. That would be much preferable in my opinion. -Bob On 11/23/2013 10:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
I’m trying to move from ESXi to KVM/OVIRT. To attach an ISO to a CDROM under ESXi, I just have to add the NFS share with all my ISOs, then go to the CDROM and attach one of the ISO images and away I go.
Under OVIRT, it seems like I have to create yet another datastore, use engine-iso-upload which will create yet another copy of the ISO, before I can attach it to a virtual CD device.
Please tell me I missed something in my hours of searching that this isn’t true, that I don’t really have to duplicate each ISO that I already have on a NAS NFS share, to yet another copy that OVIRT can use.
There also doesn’t seem to be a nice way to take a disk image and simply click “add to inventory” like I can with ESXi, that I have to use image uploader to create yet another copy of the image and wait for it to copy a 100G file before I can create a VM out of it.
Thanks for any suggestions on making this process easier.
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On 11/24/2013 05:19 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Agreed. Many of us already have an existing directory of ISOs which is NFS-shared, (I created mine while using VirtualBox for several years) and would simply like to use it.
This is an issue which is on the To-Do list, but unfortunately didn't make the first cut for 3.3.2 recently.
From what I understand, it should not be terribly difficult to change oVirt to utilize it. I believe it was Itamar who previously described a way on IRC to use symlinks to refer to existing ISOs.
It seems like most of the competition allows a VM to access any file path for an ISO, rather than having to copy it into a storage domain first. That would be much preferable in my opinion.
indeed. if someone can write a helper script to re-map a regular iso store as a storage domain, i think would help as a srop gap - should be simple.
-Bob
On 11/23/2013 10:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
I’m trying to move from ESXi to KVM/OVIRT. To attach an ISO to a CDROM under ESXi, I just have to add the NFS share with all my ISOs, then go to the CDROM and attach one of the ISO images and away I go.
Under OVIRT, it seems like I have to create yet another datastore, use engine-iso-upload which will create yet another copy of the ISO, before I can attach it to a virtual CD device.
Please tell me I missed something in my hours of searching that this isn’t true, that I don’t really have to duplicate each ISO that I already have on a NAS NFS share, to yet another copy that OVIRT can use.
There also doesn’t seem to be a nice way to take a disk image and simply click “add to inventory” like I can with ESXi, that I have to use image uploader to create yet another copy of the image and wait for it to copy a 100G file before I can create a VM out of it.
Thanks for any suggestions on making this process easier.
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Il 24/11/2013 15:33, Itamar Heim ha scritto:
On 11/24/2013 05:19 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Agreed. Many of us already have an existing directory of ISOs which is NFS-shared, (I created mine while using VirtualBox for several years) and would simply like to use it.
This is an issue which is on the To-Do list, but unfortunately didn't make the first cut for 3.3.2 recently.
From what I understand, it should not be terribly difficult to change oVirt to utilize it. I believe it was Itamar who previously described a way on IRC to use symlinks to refer to existing ISOs.
It seems like most of the competition allows a VM to access any file path for an ISO, rather than having to copy it into a storage domain first. That would be much preferable in my opinion.
indeed. if someone can write a helper script to re-map a regular iso store as a storage domain, i think would help as a srop gap - should be simple.
Opened a RFE for tracking this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034112 If anybody will prepare that script, I can take care of that when I'll have time.
-Bob
On 11/23/2013 10:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
I’m trying to move from ESXi to KVM/OVIRT. To attach an ISO to a CDROM under ESXi, I just have to add the NFS share with all my ISOs, then go to the CDROM and attach one of the ISO images and away I go.
Under OVIRT, it seems like I have to create yet another datastore, use engine-iso-upload which will create yet another copy of the ISO, before I can attach it to a virtual CD device.
Please tell me I missed something in my hours of searching that this isn’t true, that I don’t really have to duplicate each ISO that I already have on a NAS NFS share, to yet another copy that OVIRT can use.
There also doesn’t seem to be a nice way to take a disk image and simply click “add to inventory” like I can with ESXi, that I have to use image uploader to create yet another copy of the image and wait for it to copy a 100G file before I can create a VM out of it.
Thanks for any suggestions on making this process easier.
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After I emailed the list I was researching some other OVIRT related topic and came across someone’s blog that described how to do this..Pretty simple… Create your ISO domain on local storage cd to the path, then into images/11111111-1111-1111-1111-111111111111 Create your symlink here, and a couple seconds later the ISO shows up in the GUI. Not horribly intuitive, but I can live with it. Now, if there was only a simple way to create a VM out of an existing disk image, I’d be happy. On Nov 23, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob@doolittle.us.com> wrote:
Agreed. Many of us already have an existing directory of ISOs which is NFS-shared, (I created mine while using VirtualBox for several years) and would simply like to use it.
This is an issue which is on the To-Do list, but unfortunately didn't make the first cut for 3.3.2 recently.
From what I understand, it should not be terribly difficult to change oVirt to utilize it. I believe it was Itamar who previously described a way on IRC to use symlinks to refer to existing ISOs.
It seems like most of the competition allows a VM to access any file path for an ISO, rather than having to copy it into a storage domain first. That would be much preferable in my opinion.
-Bob
On 11/23/2013 10:09 PM, Blaster wrote:
I’m trying to move from ESXi to KVM/OVIRT. To attach an ISO to a CDROM under ESXi, I just have to add the NFS share with all my ISOs, then go to the CDROM and attach one of the ISO images and away I go.
Under OVIRT, it seems like I have to create yet another datastore, use engine-iso-upload which will create yet another copy of the ISO, before I can attach it to a virtual CD device.
Please tell me I missed something in my hours of searching that this isn’t true, that I don’t really have to duplicate each ISO that I already have on a NAS NFS share, to yet another copy that OVIRT can use.
There also doesn’t seem to be a nice way to take a disk image and simply click “add to inventory” like I can with ESXi, that I have to use image uploader to create yet another copy of the image and wait for it to copy a 100G file before I can create a VM out of it.
Thanks for any suggestions on making this process easier.
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Blaster wrote:
Now, if there was only a simple way to create a VM out of an existing disk image, I’d be happy.
Just a starting point .. One workflow that worked for me ... even if not so straight through process ;-) http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-February/012371.html Gianluca
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Bob Doolittle
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Itamar Heim
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