
Good morning, i have a difficult enviroment with 20 Hypervisors based on ovirt 3.4.3-1 and i would like to reach the 4.3 version. Which are the best steps to achieve these objective? Thanks in advance Luigi

Hello Luigi, You can upgrade to the latest minor of 3.4 and then upgrade step by step to each major (3.5 3.6 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3) It's a long procedure, requires several downtimes for upgrading the cluster compatibility level, but shouldn't be so hard. Luca Il dom 1 dic 2019, 12:05 <lu.alfonsi@almaviva.it> ha scritto:
Good morning,
i have a difficult enviroment with 20 Hypervisors based on ovirt 3.4.3-1 and i would like to reach the 4.3 version. Which are the best steps to achieve these objective?
Thanks in advance
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Hi Luca, thanks for you reply. Following this procedure which are the step that i must reinstall instead of upgrade the Hypervisors? Thanks Luigi

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 3:19 PM <lu.alfonsi@almaviva.it> wrote:
Hi Luca,
thanks for you reply. Following this procedure which are the step that i must reinstall instead of upgrade the Hypervisors?
You'll need to reinstall the hypervisors when upgrading from 3.6 to 4.0, because changes the OS release from centos/rhel 6 to centos/rhel 7. And maybe you'll require to do the same with the engine server. An alternative procedure can be to stop all the vms on the 3.4 cluster, detach the storage volumes and attach the storage volumes on a new cluster 4.3, reimporting back all the vms after recreating the networks. I'm not sure this can work directly with 3.4 (maybe you require to upgrade at least to 3.5), because is a very ancient release, but maybe you can upgrade up to 3.6 and this should work. With this procedure you can upgrade with a single step, but with a longer downtime. Someone with more experience can confirm this? Luca -- "E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle macchine" Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) "Internet è la più grande biblioteca del mondo. Ma il problema è che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento" John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , <lorenzetto.luca@gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:36 PM Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto < lorenzetto.luca@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 3:19 PM <lu.alfonsi@almaviva.it> wrote:
Hi Luca,
thanks for you reply. Following this procedure which are the step that i
must reinstall instead of upgrade the Hypervisors?
You'll need to reinstall the hypervisors when upgrading from 3.6 to 4.0, because changes the OS release from centos/rhel 6 to centos/rhel 7. And maybe you'll require to do the same with the engine server.
An alternative procedure can be to stop all the vms on the 3.4 cluster, detach the storage volumes and attach the storage volumes on a new cluster 4.3, reimporting back all the vms after recreating the networks. I'm not sure this can work directly with 3.4 (maybe you require to upgrade at least to 3.5), because is a very ancient release, but maybe you can upgrade up to 3.6 and this should work. With this procedure you can upgrade with a single step, but with a longer downtime.
You can only import old SD to 4.3 from compatibility version 3.5 and higher: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_virtualization/4.3/htm...
Someone with more experience can confirm this?
Luca
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I think the alternative exporting the storage domain is perfect. Can you confirm that i have to reinstall the Hypervisors 3.4 (based on centos 6) to reach the 3.5? On the upgrade helper (3.4 to 3.5 ) i have found this " Upgrade hosts to 3.5. Reinstall with RHEL7 based hosts. Follow this solution: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1390733 Directly upgrading RHEV hosts from RHEL/RHEV-H 6 to RHEL/RHEV-H 7 is not supported: https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2752051 Change Compatibility Level (CL) of the cluster(s) and the Data Center to 3.5:" Thanks Luigi

I have found also this topic: https://access.redhat.com/articles/1390733 "RHEV 3.5 supports both RHEL6 and RHEL7 hosts (RHEL or RHEV-H). It is recommended to upgrade your hosts to RHEL7 once on RHEV 3.5." If this is true i could make an update of the hypervisors 6 and not a reinstall with centos 7 to reach the 3.5 release...After this as you suggest i can do a storage domain detach from 3.5 in order to attach to a new 4.3 enviroment...

Hello, as far as i remember from my certification course, ovirt/rhv 3.5 is still based on 6. So you can easily upgrade in place and then make detach/attach. Luca On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:13 AM <lu.alfonsi@almaviva.it> wrote:
I have found also this topic:
https://access.redhat.com/articles/1390733
"RHEV 3.5 supports both RHEL6 and RHEL7 hosts (RHEL or RHEV-H). It is recommended to upgrade your hosts to RHEL7 once on RHEV 3.5."
If this is true i could make an update of the hypervisors 6 and not a reinstall with centos 7 to reach the 3.5 release...After this as you suggest i can do a storage domain detach from 3.5 in order to attach to a new 4.3 enviroment... _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/site/privacy-policy/ oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/4IAJAAGPZSKLC3...
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Is it valid to import SD from 3.5 to the newest 4.4? Thanks in advance https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Storage.html

Hello, as far as I know yes. If IIRC, 3.5 was the first release supporting attach/detach of volumes, using OVF_STORE: https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/importstor... Luca On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 5:48 PM <lu.alfonsi@almaviva.it> wrote:
Is it valid to import SD from 3.5 to the newest 4.4?
Thanks in advance
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