[Engine-devel] [Users] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal setup

[Yedidyah Bar David]

Hi all, 

+1 for Alon's summary - first preference to remain as-is, second pyar. 

In addition: 
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From: "Nicholas Kesick" <cybertimber2000 at hotmail.com> 
To: "oVirt Mailing List" <users at ovirt.org>, "arch" <arch at ovirt.org>, "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>, "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl at redhat.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:57:41 AM 
Subject: Re: [Users] [Engine-devel] [Feedback required][host-deploy] Fedora-19 misses tar at minimal setup 

I did some testing with Fedora 18 (waiting for the Fedora 19 dvd to finish downloading) and I think that the behavior was the same way in Fedora 18. In Fedora 18 when installing from DVD if you select “Minimal Install”, you do not get tar. 




Indeed. 


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However, if you select “Minimal install” and “standard” under the add-on list, you *do* get tar. And if memory serves I learned the hard way in Fedora 18 that a lot of familiar commands are missing in minimal install without the standard add-on items including “ifconfig”. Yea, you can’t even easily tell what your IP address is!... unless you are used to the ip command. 

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I think they are trying to educate us... and for me it partially worked :-) 
I have some machines on which I did not install ifconfig, and (partially) 
learned to use ip (after refusing to do so for perhaps 10 or so years). 


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Is there any other commands that are missing on the “minimal” install that are needed? 

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Needed by vdsm? They are listed as dependencies for it. 
Needed by me? Yes, but that's a personal preference. 


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Would it be easier to mention in the install directions to use the standard add-on if selecting the minimal package set for host deployment? 

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The wiki page already tells to install tar, and I think that's enough. 


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Just thoughts. I also wonder if it would be possible to include tar as a dependency for the RPMs (like ovirt-engine or vdsm) so when installed using a package manager, tar would be checked for. 

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This won't help in our case, as Alon explained in previous mails in this subject - 
these RPMs are installed by the "bundle" (a set of scripts/data files) that we are now 
discussing how should be made to arrive and run. 

Best regards, 
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Didi 

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