[Engine-devel] Ideas about engine clustering?
Liran Zelkha
liran.zelkha at gmail.com
Wed Aug 28 13:19:32 UTC 2013
I've added a wiki page on Engine HA.
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Engine_High_Availability
Please add your comments, we'll try to make this an ongoing effort.
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Liran Zelkha <liran.zelkha at gmail.com>wrote:
> IMHO EJB clustering is not the direction we should take, especially
> considering our IoC plans (see http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/5575/).
> QuartzScheduler can be easily fixed by using a DB for Quartz
> configuration. We had such a discussion a few weeks ago.
> mod_jk is probably better for our HA.
> Postgres clustering should probably be a different task, as it's more
> infra and less code.
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> Another thing to consider is locking, currently done using synchronized,
> and will need to be changed somehow (probably using Infinispan).
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> On Aug 22, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
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> On 08/21/2013 10:27 PM, plysan wrote:
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> 2013/8/22 Itamar Heim <iheim at redhat.com <mailto:iheim at redhat.com<iheim at redhat.com>
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> On 08/21/2013 11:08 AM, plysan wrote:
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> 2013/8/21 Laszlo Hornyak <lhornyak at redhat.com
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> <mailto:lhornyak at redhat.com <lhornyak at redhat.com>>>>
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> Hi,
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> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:49:31 PM
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> > Subject: [Engine-devel] Ideas about engine clustering?
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> > Hello, guys:
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> > I'm trying to make a jboss clustering environment for
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> engine. But
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> felt the
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> > difficuty too.
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> > So I want to know if any one is working on this? I
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> googled it and
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> haven't
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> > found anything.
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> >
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> > I know there will be lots of things to do for engine
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> migrating to
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> clustering
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> > environment. I just want to know what problem need to be
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> solved?
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> > I would like to list the things I think that is needed
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> to do(or
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> solve):
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> > 1. run jboss in standalone-ha mode or domain mode.
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> > 2. add @Clustered annotation to each EJB, I think this
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> will solve the
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> > replication problem in cluster, probably lots of details
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> in it.
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> > 3. QuartzScheduler problem, only one node running a
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> scheduler is
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> enough at a
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> > time instead of each node running one.
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> > 4. use mod_cluster to handle load balancing.
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> > 5. postgresql clustering.
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> For failover it sounds like a plan, just wondering if this
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> could
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> solve load balancing problems as well.
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> Ovirt is generating a big load on the DB and I would be really
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> interested if SQL DB clustering could solve the issues.
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> It would be great if it could, big part of the scalablity
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> issue is
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> the evil things we did against that poor database.
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> > 6. There should be more, but hope anyone can think about
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> it :D
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> There are tons of data structures that are used in oVirt
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> that store
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> state. You will have to hunt all of these down and replace
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> with a
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> data structure that is shared between the cluster memebers.
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> This may
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> be a big lot of work from many parts of the application.
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> Indeed, and like Yair Zaslavsky said, we can put the data
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> structure in
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> infinispan cache, but clustered EJB can do the same thing for
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> us, right?
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> If all those state values are inside EJBs. (iirc)**
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> > Any ideas?
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> > Thanks!
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> unless you need the load balancing, just for HA, hosted-engine
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> should cover your needs?
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> I think failover and more scalability is what i am interested here.
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> Just thinking about the possibilities :)
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> Imagine engine would never get restarted from outside view. Cool isn't it?
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> active/passive failover you should get from hosted-engine (yes, with some
> downtime)
> scalability and active-active would be great. iirc, juan looked at
> implications of doing this a while back
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