[Engine-devel] static header only in VM dialog?

Itamar Heim iheim at redhat.com
Wed May 29 13:25:18 UTC 2013 

On 05/29/2013 04:13 PM, Daniel Erez wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim at redhat.com>
>> To: "Daniel Erez" <derez at redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen at redhat.com>, "Eldan Hildesheim" <info at eldanet.com>, "engine-devel"
>> <engine-devel at ovirt.org>, "Eldan Hildesheim" <ehildesh at redhat.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:56:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] static header only in VM dialog?
>>
>> On 05/29/2013 08:36 AM, Daniel Erez wrote:
>> ...
>>>> relevant/correct to introduce this new concept only in the VM-like
>>>> dialogs).
>>>>
>>>> regarding the specific concern about the DC/Cluster values that aren't
>>>> necessarily relevant
>>>> for each side-tab in the dialog: I agree with that statement, however:
>>>>
>>>> - putting the "Instance Type" drop-down at the top static section is very
>>>> useful (see [4]
>>>> for explanation), and as the Instance Types list is derived from the
>>>> selected
>>>> DC, it makes
>>>> sense (to me) to put the DC in that top static section as well.
>>>>
>>>> - the DC/Cluster are relevant for some of the tabs in the dialog (Host,
>>>> Resource Allocation?)
>>>
>>> Only for Host.
>>> Resource Allocation is directly affected by the selected template.
>>> Therefore, it sounds very confusing to me...
>>> Unless we add template to the static header as well?
>>> (which will be odd for the other tabs).
>>
>> isn't resource allocation affected by the vm type (optimized for
>> server/desktop), rather than the template?
>
> Only Thin vs. Clone is affected by VM type.
> But, SDs are affected by the selected template.

yes. i don't see how this changes things though, since changing 
image/template would be visible.

>
>>
>> (and template is on the static header as well - images are a subset of
>> templates, but you will see there both images and templates).
>
> According to the current patch only DC and Cluster are static in the header.
> Which means that until we have a full implementation merged the static
> header would surely be confusing. Afterwards, I'm still not sure how most
> tabs are influenced, e.g.: Initial Run / Console / Boot Options
> are really related to the DC/Cluster/Instance Type?

have you reviewed the table in the feature page mapping which fields 
related to instance type?

>
>>
>>>
>>> So I still don't get the motivation UX-wise.
>>> E.g. it seems really weird to change the entire DC from Console tab
>>> (or, as a matter of fact, from most other tabs).
>>> In the new instance type dialog, which tabs could be directly affected by
>>> DC/Cluster?
>>> IIUC, only Host? Do we really need a static header just for this tab?
>>>
>>>> so for consistency-within-the-dialog considerations, it is probably a good
>>>> idea to simply
>>>> always show these fields within this top static section.
>>>>
>>>> [there is a good chance that I am missing your point here - please correct
>>>> me
>>>> if necessary]
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/14936/
>>>>
>>>> [2] http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Instance_Types
>>>>
>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/images/9/9e/Instance_type.pdf
>>>>
>>>> [4] whenever changing the "Instance Type" value, you can automatically see
>>>> how these changes
>>>> affect the fields in the current tab on which you are standing (e.g. if
>>>> you
>>>> are standing on
>>>> the "System" side-tab, you can change the "Instance Type" selected item
>>>> and
>>>> immediately see
>>>> the changes within the "System" side-tab contents), and vice-versa: if you
>>>> are changing a value
>>>> that was originally propagated from the instance-type, you will see the
>>>> instance-type automatically
>>>> change to "custom"/"not applicable" as a result, so no need to "jump"
>>>> between
>>>> side-tabs in order
>>>> to observe these changes.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Einav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/images/9/9e/Instance_type.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: derez at redhat.com
>>>>>>> To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Vojtech Szocs" <vszocs at redhat.com>, "Einav Cohen"
>>>>>>> <ecohen at redhat.com>,
>>>>>>> "Frank Kobzik" <fkobzik at redhat.com>,
>>>>>>> "Eldan Hildesheim" <info at eldanet.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:05:38 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Change in ovirt-engine[master]: userportal,webadmin: redesign
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> vm related dialogs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Erez has posted comments on this change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Change subject: userportal,webadmin: redesign of vm related dialogs
>>>>>>> ......................................................................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patch Set 5: (1 inline comment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Code looks good.
>>>>>>> A few questions regarding the design:
>>>>>>> 1. Why do we want the static header only in VM dialog?
>>>>>>> 2. DC/Host are really relevant for all tabs?
>>>>>>> 3. Is it just a preparation for the final instance type dialog?
>>>>>>> 4. If it's indeed merely preparation, shouldn't it be merged only once
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> have the full picture of the new dialog?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ....................................................
>>>>>>> File
>>>>>>> frontend/webadmin/modules/gwt-common/src/main/java/org/ovirt/engine/ui/common/widget/dialog/tab/DialogTabPanel.ui.xml
>>>>>>> Line 21:
>>>>>>> Line 22: 		.header {
>>>>>>> Line 23: 			background-color: #D3D3D3;
>>>>>>> Line 24: 			border-bottom: 1px solid #CED8DF;
>>>>>>> Line 25: 			margin-bottom: 15px;
>>>>>>> is it supposed to be that large?
>>>>>>> Line 26: 			padding-top: 6px;
>>>>>>> Line 27: 			margin-top: 4px;
>>>>>>> Line 28: 			margin-right: 3px;
>>>>>>> Line 29: 			display: none;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Gerrit-MessageType: comment
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Change-Id: Icad8098e286f821da25fac22fd0a840a42f105c9
>>>>>>> Gerrit-PatchSet: 5
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Project: ovirt-engine
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Branch: master
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Owner: Tomas Jelinek <tjelinek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Daniel Erez <derez at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Einav Cohen <ecohen at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Eldan Hildesheim <info at eldanet.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Frank Kobzik <fkobzik at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Tomas Jelinek <tjelinek at redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Gerrit-Reviewer: Vojtech Szocs <vszocs at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>
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