[Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs

[Malini Rao]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Kolesnik" <mkolesni at redhat.com>
> To: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Malini Rao" <mrao at redhat.com>, "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:56:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Remove Comment column in main tabs
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Malini,
> > 
> > > This could work but I am not a big fan of simply adding iconic columns
> > > preceding the name. This is actually a good example where 2 icon columns
> > > are
> > > already there and adding another column is making the primary column (
> > > i.e
> > > the name column) not seem like the first column the eye focuses on.
> > 
> > not sure that I completely agree with that: if I am taking my e-mail
> > client,
> > for example - it has a lot of icon columns that precede the primary columns
> > ('From', 'Subject'), however I don't think that it makes the primary
> > columns
> > any less 'catchy' (see attached
> > 'e-mail-client--a-lot-of-preceding-icons.png').
> > Having said that - it may depend on the actual content of the icon columns
> > (i.e. in my e-mail example, the icon-columns are mostly empty, whereas in
> > the
> > VMs main tab example, at least the 'status' and 'vm-type' icon columns are
> > expected to always contain some icon), so not sure.
> 
> Leaving obscure open source email clients aside ;), gmail also has icon
> columns,
> although without any title or boundaries but visually it looks like a
> column..
> 
> > 
> > > I understand that it is not as easy implementation-wise but in the effort
> > > to
> > > start moving towards a more elegant solution, I am wondering if we can
> > > cash
> > > in on what users may have learned in spreadsheet software and use a dog
> > > ear
> > > image at the corner of the name cell ( See attached). This way, we are
> > > not
> > > dedicating any more space and it does not take away space allotted to the
> > > text string either. The visual details of the icon are not final and this
> > > is
> > > sent to communicate an idea only. If we agree on this, I will send the
> > > final
> > > icon to use.
> > 
> > this solution is nice and elegant - I like it;
> > my main concern is that I am not sure how will we be able to sort the items
> > by that field if we won't have a dedicated column for it (once column
> > sorting
> > will be available in general, of course).
> > my other concern is indeed the implementation effort that would need to be
> > involved in it.
> 
> Not sure how interesting it is to sort by comment, but for the sake of not
> blocking it - a dedicated (small) column seems good to me.
> 
> > 
> > Question is if it is something that is worth considering if we decide that
> > the
> > extra-icon-column solution is acceptable.
> > 
> > Another option (at least for the short term) for solving the real-estate
> > problem
> > without changing anything in the primary column area is to keep the
> > 'Comment'
> > column in its current location, only replace its textual title with an icon
> > title
> > (see attached 'move-comment-column--option-1-variation.png').
> > 
> 
> I think if the comment is among the first to appear it serves it's purpose
> better since the admin can clearly see that someone left a comment there and
> pay attention to it, whereas if it's on the far side it can easily be missed
> (or even hidden on a lower res screen).
> 
> P.S. I think icon columns should probably be non-resizeable as it really
> makes
> no sense to resize them (they have a minimum width anyway).
> 
+1 on making iconic columns non-resizable.