[Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font
Aline Manera
alinefm at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Tue Sep 15 12:22:59 UTC 2015
On 14/09/2015 18:14, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> *From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm at linux.vnet.ibm.com]
> *Sent:* segunda-feira, 14 de setembro de 2015 18:10
> *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
> <samuel.guimaraes at eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel at ovirt.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font
>
> On 14/09/2015 18:04, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> Hi Aline,
>
> Thank you! I’m glad all the files have the same name.
>
>
> Does the package contain all we need? Do you want me to expose them to
> the server?
>
> Yes, these packages contain everything we need. If you expose them to
> the server, I think we should rename fontawesome folder to “fonts” and
> keep all font related CSS files there.
>
As the fonts will be in different directories in the server I will not
be able to expose them using the same URI (/fonts)
What I can do is create 2 different targets:
/fonts/fontawesome/
/fonts/opensans/
I will update the fontawesome patch according to it. So all fonts will
have the same prefix (/fonts)
> Regards,
>
> Samuel
>
> *From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm at linux.vnet.ibm.com]
> *Sent:* segunda-feira, 14 de setembro de 2015 18:02
> *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
> <samuel.guimaraes at eldorado.org.br>
> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes at eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel at ovirt.org
> <mailto:kimchi-devel at ovirt.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font
>
> On 14/09/2015 17:55, Aline Manera wrote:
>
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> From my investigation, I identified the OpenSans font is
> packaged on Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE but I failed to find the
> correspondent package for RHEL 7.1
> I will try more on it and send you the details, but if we
> don't have RHEL 7.1 package to provide the OpenSans font we
> will need to find other solution on that. Maybe use other font.
>
>
> OPs... Just found it :-)
>
> on RHEL 7.1 (open-sans-fonts.noarch)
>
> /etc/fonts/conf.d/60-open-sans.conf
> /usr/share/doc/open-sans-fonts-1.10
> /usr/share/doc/open-sans-fonts-1.10/LICENSE.txt
> /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/60-open-sans.conf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Light.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf
>
>
> If it is all you need, I can send a patch to expose the *.ttf
> files to the web server (the same I did for fontawesome).
>
>
>
> Below is the details for Ubuntu, Fedora and openSUSE.
>
> On Ubuntu 15.4 (texlive-fonts-extra):
>
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Light.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf
> texlive-fonts-extra:
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf
>
> On Fedora 22 (texlive-opensans.noarch):
>
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Light.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf
>
> On OpenSUSE 13.2 (google-opensans-fonts-1.0-10.1.5.noarch):
>
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Light.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Italic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Bold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondBold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Regular.ttf
>
> Regards,
> Aline Manera
>
> On 16/07/2015 13:09, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> I noticed that the new-ui design pattern for typography
> specifies Helvetica Neue family in four different styles.
> This font family is shipped with the latest versions of
> Mac OS X and iOS but it is not available for free on
> Windows and Linux distributions.
>
> I believe this might conflict with Kimchi license. Even if
> we buy or rent a webfont license we can’t distribute the
> TTF, EOT, WOFF and SVG files in our repositories. I think
> that we can’t even use a webfont license in this case
> (pointing to a remote location or service like Adobe
> Typekit or MyFonts) because most font-licensing services
> are charging based on pre-paid pageviews.
>
> Usually for web apps, mobile web apps and cloud based
> services we have to buy a server license to store the
> webfont files within our servers, but since Kimchi is an
> open-source project that anyone can check out and run,
> every kimchi instance would have to buy their own font
> license.
>
> We can set Helvetica as the default font-family in the CSS
> and if the user doesn’t have this font installed the
> browser will load the next available font (Arial or any
> other Sans-Serif) but since each font has different sizes,
> some elements may not fit in the screen exactly like they
> were seen in the mockups. Also, the UI specs recommends
> Helvetica Neue in 5 different styles (Light, Roman,
> Regular, Medium and Bold), most system fonts only have 3.
> We don’t have something like “Arial Light” for instance.
>
> My suggestion is that we replace Helvetica Neue for Open
> Sans because it covers all the style specifications and it
> is licensed under Apache 2.0. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Samuel Guimarães
>
>
>
>
>
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