[ovirt-users] VM incremental backup
Nathanaël Blanchet
blanchet at abes.fr
Wed Oct 12 05:08:25 EDT 2016
Hi,
After testing many ways to transfer sparse file between servers (in
local cp is enough), here is the only way wich is time efficient:
Source side
# tar cSf - /var/lib/libvirt/images/acore_thin.img | nc -l 5000
Destination side
# nc 10.34.100.128 5000 | pv -btr | tar xSf -
3,54GB 0:02:19 [ 26MB/s]
# ls -lsh /var/lib/libvirt/images/acore_thin.img
3,8G -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 40G 6 oct. 12:43
/var/lib/libvirt/images/acore_thin.img
Le 07/10/2016 à 08:50, Arman Khalatyan a écrit :
>
> The sparse files are special files(please checkout the wiki pages) to
> conserve some diskspace and copy time.
> The rsync --sparce does not take an advantage of it. It is trying to
> checksum whole virtual diskspace which is obviously zero filled.
> If you "cp" file then "cp" will try to autodetect it otherwise your
> file willbe converted to regular file. You can also copy files with
> "tar -S ".
> To check the size of actual vs virtual(sparse) you can use:
> df -bsh filename vs df -sh
>
>
> Am 06.10.2016 11:34 vorm. schrieb "Nathanaël Blanchet"
> <blanchet at abes.fr <mailto:blanchet at abes.fr>>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I didn't know this tool, after testing the original 40GB image
> size is reduced as expected to 2,9GB with du -sh, but transfer
> between servers continue to act as a 40GB image.
>
> So if I understand virt-sparsify reduces the effective space on
> the local disk, but the disk is seen with its original size by
> other systems, and there is no advantage in transferring the image
> from one server to an other.
>
> Please tell me if I'm wrong.
>
> Le 29/09/2016 à 15:10, Kai Wagner a écrit :
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I don't wont to break into your discussion, but I also never
>> heard about virt-sparsfiy and the sparse option for dd.
>>
>> I tested it and it works like a charm. I converted a block device
>> 65GB with dd sparse to 40GB raw image and afterwards I used
>> virsh-sparsify to reduce the size down to 6.8GB into a qcow2
>> image file.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for that hint.
>>
>> Kai
>>
>> Am 27.09.2016 um 15:17 schrieb Sven Achtelik:
>>>
>>> No, I never came across this approach. I didn’t know about
>>> virt-sparsify.
>>>
>>> I’ll look into that and give it a try.
>>>
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>>> *Von:*Yaniv Dary [mailto:ydary at redhat.com]
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 27. September 2016 15:10
>>> *An:* Sven Achtelik <Sven.Achtelik at mailpool.us>
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>>> *Cc:* Maton, Brett <matonb at ltresources.co.uk>
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>>> *Betreff:* Re: [ovirt-users] VM incremental backup
>>>
>>> As I see it you have two options:
>>> - In backup use 'dd' with 'conv=sparse' (or similar tool that
>>> allows sparse).
>>>
>>> - After backup use virt-sparsify [1] to reduce the size to the
>>> real used size prior to restore.
>>>
>>> To make this extra efficient you can use virt-sparsify anyways
>>> after backup to make the file even smaller.
>>>
>>> Have you considered this approach?
>>>
>>> [1] http://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html
>>> <http://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html>
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Sven Achtelik
>>> <Sven.Achtelik at mailpool.us <mailto:Sven.Achtelik at mailpool.us>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Yaniv,
>>>
>>> how can this be done with DD ? Since it doesn’t know if the
>>> block is free space ? I’ve been looking for such a solution
>>> for a long time now. Everything I could find out was that I
>>> have to use a utility that understands the FS and therefore
>>> knows where the free space is.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Sven
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>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 27. September 2016 14:38
>>> *An:* Maton, Brett <matonb at ltresources.co.uk
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>>> *Betreff:* Re: [ovirt-users] VM incremental backup
>>>
>>> Full VM disk backup. If you use dd you can drop the 0 parts
>>> of the disk.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yaniv Dary
>>>
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>>> 2016-09-27 15:27 GMT+03:00 Maton, Brett
>>> <matonb at ltresources.co.uk <mailto:matonb at ltresources.co.uk>>:
>>>
>>> Is there a preferred or recommended backup method in the
>>> meantime ?
>>>
>>> 2016-09-22 10:30 GMT+01:00 vasily.lamykin at MegaFon.ru
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>>> <vasily.lamykin at megafon.ru
>>> <mailto:vasily.lamykin at megafon.ru>>:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I would like to understand the existence of the
>>> possibility of incremental VM backups.
>>>
>>> And if it is, the means by which it is achieved.
>>>
>>> While I was only able to achieve a complete backup
>>> of the virtual machine (but it is a very large
>>> amount of information and time) by cloning a
>>> snapshot of the VM and export to data domain.
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