[ovirt-users] packages that can be updated without maintening hosts

[Nathanaël Blanchet]

Le 23/01/2017 à 13:08, Yaniv Kaul a écrit :
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> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Nathanaël Blanchet <blanchet at abes.fr 
> <mailto:blanchet at abes.fr>> wrote:
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>     Hi
>
>     The update notifier in the webadmin was originally designed to
>     alert for new vdsm* packages. Now, I noticed that available update
>     of virt packages and more are notified. I know that hot updating
>     qemu-kvm package does break vms that are running on concerned
>     hosts, but what about other one like libvirt-client? I know it is
>     recommended to put in maintenance while updating, but can we
>     update some minor packages without waiting for migration?
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> Hot-updating any package should not break any running VMs. If it does, 
> it's a bug.
The last time I did a qemu-kvm upgrade, my host became down and the vms 
on it with a question mark and no possibility to interact with them. My 
only solution was to use the "confirm host has rebooted" to fence the 
vms, and then the nightmare began : the high availaible vms rebooted on 
an other host while they were still active on the first one, so they 
were up on two hosts at the same time. Their disk began to be written by 
two vms at the same time and I had to fscsk them to make them up on the 
next boot. Some database vms were completely unusabled!

So I'm very surprised to hear that it is possible to do hot-updating on 
these kind of upgrade, and I won't do it anymore!
> I personally agree it's not the best habit to do it nevertheless, and 
> I expect users to put hosts to maintenance before performing any upgrade.
>
> We cannot tell which update requires maintenance and which doesn't (or 
> for that matter - requires a reboot or a service restart) - there's no 
> metadata available to do attached to the packages that can tell us that.
> Y.
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