12:32 a.m.
Hi,
The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear:
"Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management
Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and
Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure
what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's
important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether
to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source
Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra(a)ovirt.org and
board(a)ovirt.org.
Stefan
9:32 p.m.
want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
Carl.
On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi,
The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear:
"Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management
Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and
Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure
what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's
important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether
to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source
Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra(a)ovirt.org and
board(a)ovirt.org.
Stefan
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oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
----- Original Message -----
want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
Carl.
On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> Hi,
> The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear:
> "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and
> Management
> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
>
> "Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology.
> "Infrastructure and
> Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not
> sure
> what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
>
> Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
>
> This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's
> important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and
> whether
> to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source
> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
>
> Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra(a)ovirt.org and
> board(a)ovirt.org.
>
> Stefan
>
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1:32 a.m.
New subject: Tagline on ovirt.org does not communicate a clear and simple message
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
----- Original Message -----
>
> want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
>
> Carl.
>
>
>
> On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>> Hi,
>> The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear:
>> "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and
>> Management
>> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
>>
>> "Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology.
>> "Infrastructure and
>> Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not
>> sure
>> what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
>>
>> Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
>>
>> This tagline is used in the<h2> and<title> (shortened). It's
>> important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and
>> whether
>> to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source
>> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
>>
>> Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra(a)ovirt.org and
>> board(a)ovirt.org.
>>
>> Stefan
>>
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1:43 a.m.
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Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori <aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>
> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm
we're talking about :)
Alex
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
>>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear:
>>> "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and
>>> Management
>>> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
>>>
>>> "Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology.
>>> "Infrastructure and
>>> Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not
>>> sure
>>> what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
>>>
>>> Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
>>>
>>> This tagline is used in the<h2> and<title> (shortened).
It's
>>> important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and
>>> whether
>>> to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source
>>> Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
>>>
>>> Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra(a)ovirt.org and
>>> board(a)ovirt.org.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Board(a)ovirt.org
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
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On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori
<aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
> > On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>> >> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>> >>
>> >> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
> >
> > Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
> >
> > Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm
we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword
mapping with google.
6:02 p.m.
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On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori <aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
>
>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>>>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>>>>>
>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
>>>
>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which
kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword
mapping with google.
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some
summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they
'fit' in well, we would most likely take them. Maybe virt in the
tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
Carl.
6:15 p.m.
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On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
> On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori<aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
>>
>>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>>>>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
>>>>
>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know
which kvm we're talking about :)
>
> I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword
> mapping with google.
>
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some
summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they
'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I understood as the
purpose of oVirt.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
Maybe virt in the
tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
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On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
> On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>> On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori<aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
>>>
>>>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>>>>>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual
machines
>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
>>>>>
>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM
hypervisor.
>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will
>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
>>
>> I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword
>> mapping with google.
>>
>
> One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some
> summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they
> 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year.
oVirt needs the focus. In theory it can do it all - kvm, xen,
containers, cloud, etc. But in practice it would be the best for us to
focus of being as good as we can in a more narrow, realistic field. The
current field is enterprise virtualization using kvm. IMHO that's the
right one and there is plenty of work to do around it. Spreading around
will slow down the main effort (even if others do the work).
Potentially in a year time we may re-evaluate things.
Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I understood as
the purpose of oVirt.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Maybe virt in the
> tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
>
> Carl.
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----- Original Message -----
On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>> On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>> On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony
>>>> Liguori<aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>>>>>>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual
>>>>>>>> machines
>>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM
>>>>>> hypervisor.
>>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will
>>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
>>>
>>> I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better
>>> keyword
>>> mapping with google.
>>>
>>
>> One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however
>> if some
>> summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and
>> they
>> 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year.
+1, we indeed need to focus on making it the best virtualization platform we can and that
means focus on kvm.
oVirt needs the focus. In theory it can do it all - kvm, xen,
containers, cloud, etc. But in practice it would be the best for us
to
focus of being as good as we can in a more narrow, realistic field.
The
current field is enterprise virtualization using kvm. IMHO that's the
right one and there is plenty of work to do around it. Spreading
around
will slow down the main effort (even if others do the work).
Potentially in a year time we may re-evaluate things.
>
> Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I
> understood as
> the purpose of oVirt.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anthony Liguori
>
>> Maybe virt in the
>> tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
>>
>> Carl.
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On 01/18/2012 03:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> > On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> > > On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>> > >> On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>>> > >>> On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>> > >>>> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony
>>>>> > >>>> Liguori<aliguori(a)us.ibm.com>:
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal
Baron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> oVirt - the
virtual datacenter management platform
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Provision,
manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> machines
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be
more KVM centric?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor
virtual machines in the KVM
>>>>>>> > >>>>>> hypervisor.
>>>>> > >>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever
comes to oVirt will
>>>>> > >>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking
about :)
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get
better
>>>> > >>> keyword
>>>> > >>> mapping with google.
>>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM,
however
>>> > >> if some
>>> > >> summits patches for linux container (as an example) support
and
>>> > >> they
>>> > >> 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
> >
> > I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year.
+1, we indeed need to focus on making it the best virtualization platform we can and that
means focus on kvm.
In the initial docs, we said focus on kvm, which would mean focus on
kvm, with the door technically open to something that really makes
sense, however I agree we need focus for the next year or so.
My main concern however in the tagline is to have virt or KVM also
written out to get boarder search. Many people just want an open virt &
manager, and I don't think many care if it is KVM or foo, as long as it
works. i.e. attract the broadest user population as possible.
Clearly devs, and power users will care, but those that care will
naturally find the project.
Carl.
9:16 p.m.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps
the tag line should be more KVM centric?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor
virtual machines in the KVM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever
comes to oVirt will
>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking
about :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
can we do
"Provision, manage and monitor KVM - hypervisors and virtual machines"
11:14 p.m.
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----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the tag line
should be more KVM centric?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and
monitor virtual machines in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the KVM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypervisor.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM?
Whoever comes to
>>>>>>>>>>>> oVirt will
>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully know which kvm we're
talking about :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
can we do
"Provision, manage and monitor KVM - hypervisors and virtual
machines"
How about something like:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
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12:43 a.m.
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On 01/18/2012 03:14 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
How about something like:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
I like.
Carl.
1:48 a.m.
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Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual
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Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final
comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
"Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines"
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On 01/19/2012 12:48 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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>
>
> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>
> Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual
> machines
>
> Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final
comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
"Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines"
what about the storage and network for them?
5:24 p.m.
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On 01/19/2012 04:36 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 01/19/2012 12:48 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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> On 01/18/2012 12:14 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
>>
>>
>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
>>
>> Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual
>> machines
>>
>> Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
>
> Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final
> comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
>
> "Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual
> machines"
what about the storage and network for them?
ack. and applying
6:31 p.m.
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>> Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a
final
>> comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
>>
>> "Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual
>> machines"
> what about the storage and network for them?
ack. and applying
Take a look, home page updated.
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