Re: [ovirt-devel] Firewalld migration.

p.s., we've begun implementing option #2 using the following design and approach:

Beginning with a configurable threshold for cluster compatibility levels (defaulted to 4.2), instead of using/deploying iptables' deploy unit, we set a firewalld boolean in vdsm.conf's deploy unit (similarly to iptables; only in case firewall override is set).

Using a new dedicated vdsm configurator for firewalld, the required services are added to the active zone(s) (currently being just the public one) and become operational. This only takes place if firewalld's boolean is set to true in vdsm.conf. We determine what non-baseline services should be added based on what is installed on the host (e.g. gluster packages). This approach guarantees that neither upgrading Engine or a host separately will cause unwarranted firewall related modifications (more specifically, custom rules/iptables' service remain intact). Explicitly installing/re-installing hosts in compatible clusters via an upgraded Engine is the only way to override custom rules/enabling firewalld's service over iptables' service (barring manual alterations to vdsm.conf...). We're also going to warn users during engine-setup and add alerts during host (re)installations.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Leon Goldberg <lgoldber(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Hey, > > There seems to be a growing consensus towards moving custom rules out of > Engine. It is believed that Engine shouldn't have assumed the role of a > centralized firewall management system in he first place, and that using a > proper 3rd party solution will be both favorable to the users (allowing > better functionality and usability) and will allow us to simplify our > firewall deployment process. > > Considering we don't have to manage custom rules, a host will be able to > derive all the information regarding its firewalld services from its own > configuration. Consequently, option #2 becomes a forerunner with Engine's > involvement being even further diminished. > > > > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Leon Goldberg <lgoldber(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > >> >> Hey, >> >> We're looking to migrate from iptables to firewalld. We came up with a >> couple of possible approaches we'd like opinions on. I'll list the options >> first, and will >> >> 1) Replicate existing flow: >> >> As of date, iptable rules are inserted in the database via SQL config >> files. During host deployment, VdsDeployIptablesUnit adds the required >> rules (based on cluster/firewall configuration) to the deployment >> configuration, en route to being deployed on the host via otopi and its >> iptables plugin. >> >> Pros: >> >> - Reuse of existing infrastructure. >> >> Cons: >> >> - Current infrastructure is overly complex... >> - Many of the required services are provided by firewalld. Rewriting >> them is wasteful; specifying them (instead of providing actual service .xml >> content) will require adaptations on both (engine/host) sides. More on that >> later. >> >> >> 2) Host side based configuration: >> >> Essentially, all the required logic (aforementioned cluster/firewall >> configuration) to determine if/how firewalld should be deployed could be >> passed on to the host via ohd. Vdsm could take on the responsibility of >> examining the relevant configuration, and then creating and/or adding the >> required services (using vdsm.conf and vdsm-tool). >> >> Pros: >> >> - Engine side involvement is greatly diminished. >> - Simple(r). >> >> Cons: >> >> - Custom services/rules capabilities will have to be rethought and >> re-implemented (current infrastructure supports custom iptables rules by >> being specified in the SQL config file). >> >> >> 3) Some other hybrid approach: >> >> If we're able to guarantee all the required firewalld services are >> statically provided one way or the other, the current procedure could be >> replicated and be made more simpler. Instead of providing xml content in >> the form of strings, service names could be supplied. The responsibility of >> actual service deployment becomes easier, and could be left to otopi (with >> the appropriate modifications) or switched over to vdsm. >> >> -- >> >> Regardless, usage of statically provided vs. dynamically created >> services remains an open question. I think we'd like to avoid implementing >> logic that ask whether some service is provided (and then write it if it >> isn't...), and so choosing between the dynamic and static approaches is >> also needed. Using the static approach, guaranteeing *all* services are >> provided will be required. >> >> I do believe guaranteeing the presence of all required services is worth >> it, however custom services aren't going to be naively compatible, and >> we'll still have to use similar mechanism as described in #1 (service >> string -> .xml -> addition of service name to active zone). >> >> >> Your thoughts are welcome. >> >> Thanks, >> Leon >> >> > _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel