Purging inactive maintainers from vdsm-master-maintainers

I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log. See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members Thoughts? Nir

On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea. -- Francesco Romani Senior SW Eng., Virtualization R&D Red Hat IRC: fromani github: @fromanirh

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.

Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal. Regards, Milan

I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :) On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
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On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
Regards, Milan
I forgot about this, and another year passed. Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list. Nir

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers.
I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from this group, based on git log.
See the list below for current status: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
Regards, Milan
I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Nir

Edward Haas <edwardh@redhat.com> writes:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote:
On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
> I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. > > I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from > this group, > based on git log. > > See the list below for current status: > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members
No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
Regards, Milan
I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Not a bad idea, I think we could have such a group in Vdsm too. Regards, Milan

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:35 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Edward Haas <edwardh@redhat.com> writes:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote: > > On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote:
> > I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. > > > > I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from > > this group, > > based on git log. > > > > See the list below for current status: > > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members > > > No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea.
I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic.
If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
Regards, Milan
I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Not a bad idea, I think we could have such a group in Vdsm too.
It would be nice but not part of gerrit permission configuration. We have an AUTHORS file, last updated in 2013. We can use this file to give credit to past maintainers.

Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> writes:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:35 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Edward Haas <edwardh@redhat.com> writes:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> wrote: >> >> On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: > >> > I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. >> > >> > I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from >> > this group, >> > based on git log. >> > >> > See the list below for current status: >> > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members >> >> >> No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea. > > > I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old > colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. > > If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us > give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to > existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we > actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped.
I think this is a reasonable proposal.
Regards, Milan
I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Not a bad idea, I think we could have such a group in Vdsm too.
It would be nice but not part of gerrit permission configuration.
We have an AUTHORS file, last updated in 2013. We can use this file to give credit to past maintainers.
AUTHORS is a better place to give credits, but the group could be also useful as a more reliable tracking past maintainers and in case of restoring maintainer rights, if such a need ever occurs. (Yes, no way necessary for that but maybe nice to have.)

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:09 PM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> writes:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:35 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Edward Haas <edwardh@redhat.com> writes:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
> Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes: > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> > >> On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: > > > >> > I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. > >> > > >> > I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from > >> > this group, > >> > based on git log. > >> > > >> > See the list below for current status: > >> > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members > >> > >> > >> No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea. > > > > > > I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old > > colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. > > > > If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us > > give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to > > existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we > > actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped. > > I think this is a reasonable proposal. > > Regards, > Milan >
I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Not a bad idea, I think we could have such a group in Vdsm too.
It would be nice but not part of gerrit permission configuration.
We have an AUTHORS file, last updated in 2013. We can use this file to give credit to past maintainers.
AUTHORS is a better place to give credits, but the group could be also useful as a more reliable tracking past maintainers and in case of restoring maintainer rights, if such a need ever occurs. (Yes, no way necessary for that but maybe nice to have.)
Gerrit has an audit log: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/admin/groups/106,audit-log If you don't trust it, we can add a file with this info in the project. If we look at other projects, qemu has this file: https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/MAINTAINERS

Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> writes:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:09 PM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> writes:
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 11:35 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> wrote:
Edward Haas <edwardh@redhat.com> writes:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:29 PM Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:27 PM Adam Litke <alitke@redhat.com> wrote:
> I also agree with the proposal. It's sad to turn in my keys but I'm > likely unable to perform many duties expected of a maintainer at this > point. I know that people can still find me via the git history :) > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 3:37 AM Milan Zamazal <mzamazal@redhat.com> > wrote: > >> Dan Kenigsberg <danken@redhat.com> writes: >> >> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:33 PM Francesco Romani <fromani@redhat.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/27/19 3:25 PM, Nir Soffer wrote: >> > >> >> > I want to remove inactive contributors from vdsm-master-maintainers. >> >> > >> >> > I suggest the simple rule of 2 years of inactivity for removing from >> >> > this group, >> >> > based on git log. >> >> > >> >> > See the list below for current status: >> >> > https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/groups/106,members >> >> >> >> >> >> No objections, keeping the list minimal and current is a good idea. >> > >> > >> > I love removing dead code; I feel a bit different about removing old >> > colleagues. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. >> > >> > If we introduce this policy (which I understand is healthy), let us >> > give a long warning period (6 months?) before we apply the policy to >> > existing dormant maintainers. We should also make sure that we >> > actively try to contact a person before he or she is dropped. >> >> I think this is a reasonable proposal. >> >> Regards, >> Milan >> > I forgot about this, and another year passed.
Sending again, this time I added all past maintainers that may not watch this list.
Very sad, but it makes total sense. +1 Note that other projects move past maintainers to a special group named "emeritus_*".
Not a bad idea, I think we could have such a group in Vdsm too.
It would be nice but not part of gerrit permission configuration.
We have an AUTHORS file, last updated in 2013. We can use this file to give credit to past maintainers.
AUTHORS is a better place to give credits, but the group could be also useful as a more reliable tracking past maintainers and in case of restoring maintainer rights, if such a need ever occurs. (Yes, no way necessary for that but maybe nice to have.)
Gerrit has an audit log: https://gerrit.ovirt.org/admin/groups/106,audit-log
Ah, that looks good enough, I don't think anything more is needed.
If you don't trust it, we can add a file with this info in the project.
If we look at other projects, qemu has this file: https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/MAINTAINERS
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Adam Litke
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Dan Kenigsberg
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Edward Haas
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Francesco Romani
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Milan Zamazal
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Nir Soffer