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11:35 p.m.
On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
Dear all,
I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
web administration application to let user upload iso files.
I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
<http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
on the server-side.
All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
iso-uploader-plugin
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
the oVirt Engine.
Best regards,
- Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
looks very nice.
This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload iso's" or
it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
one thing to consider with above architecture is need to handle
ticketing between servlet to validate end user is allowed to do this,
and for more advanced - some throttling.
another concern is choice of technologies to see if can be properly
packaged to be provided as more than just an optional ui plugin.
a question - i couldn't easily locate a screenshot/explanation how your
plugin dialog for upload looks like / how you handle authentication in
it now?
thanks,
Itamar
[1] servlet to can be moved to another host and to not hog engine
backend itself.
11:47 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
To: "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>
Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Scott Herold"
<sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
<amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>,
"Barak Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>, "Brian
Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:35:40 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
> web administration application to let user upload iso files.
>
> I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
> angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
> the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
> <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
> on the server-side.
>
> All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
> iso-uploader-plugin
> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
> a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
>
> I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
> as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
> the oVirt Engine.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
>
>
looks very nice.
This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload iso's"
or
it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should avoid so using
iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the authentication
between engine and vdsm, is it already?
this should be a core feature not an add-on within the current monolithic implementation,
as there is no access to vdsm interaction from any of the interfaces.
Alon
5:50 p.m.
On Dec 14, 2014, at 22:47 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>
> Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Scott
Herold" <sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
> <amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli"
<fsimonce(a)redhat.com>, "Barak Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>,
"Brian
> Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:35:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
>> web administration application to let user upload iso files.
>>
>> I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
>> angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
>> the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
>> <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
>> on the server-side.
>>
>> All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
>> iso-uploader-plugin
>> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
>> a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
>> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
>>
>> I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
>> as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
>> the oVirt Engine.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
>>
>>
>
> looks very nice.
>
> This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
> i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload
iso's" or
> it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
> for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
> engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
> iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should avoid so using
iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the authentication
between engine and vdsm, is it already?
nope, we don't
this should be a core feature not an add-on within the current
monolithic implementation, as there is no access to vdsm interaction from any of the
interfaces.
well, since we have this feature in the plan for a long time and didn't get to it then
a UI plugin would be nice.
Currently the only way to upload "stuff" is using ovirt-iso-uploader.
Thanks,
michal
Alon
6:54 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>,
"潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Scott
Herold" <sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
<amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>,
"Barak Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>, "Brian
Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:50:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
On Dec 14, 2014, at 22:47 , Alon Bar-Lev <alonbl(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
"devel"
>> <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"李建盛"
>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>
>> Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Scott
Herold"
>> <sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
>> <amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli"
<fsimonce(a)redhat.com>, "Barak
>> Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>, "Brian
>> Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:35:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>
>> On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
>>> web administration application to let user upload iso files.
>>>
>>> I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
>>> angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow>
on
>>> the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine
tool
>>> on the server-side.
>>>
>>> All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
>>> iso-uploader-plugin
>>> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also
check
>>> a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
>>>
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
>>>
>>> I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
>>> as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
>>> the oVirt Engine.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
>>>
>>>
>>
>> looks very nice.
>>
>> This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
>> i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload
iso's" or
>> it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
>> for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
>> engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
>> iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
>
> using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should
> avoid so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
> vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the
> authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
nope, we don't
> this should be a core feature not an add-on within the current monolithic
> implementation, as there is no access to vdsm interaction from any of the
> interfaces.
well, since we have this feature in the plan for a long time and didn't get
to it then a UI plugin would be nice.
Currently the only way to upload "stuff" is using ovirt-iso-uploader.
indeed "nice", but we cannot introduce anything that is "nice" but
insecure. using iso/image uplaoder spawned by servlet cannot be something that is
endorsed.
6:47 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>,
"潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>,
> "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>
> Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Scott
Herold"
> <sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
> <amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli"
<fsimonce(a)redhat.com>, "Barak
> Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>, "Brian
> Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:35:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
> > web administration application to let user upload iso files.
> >
> > I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
> > angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
> > the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
> > <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
> > on the server-side.
> >
> > All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
> > iso-uploader-plugin
> > <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
> > a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
> >
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
> >
> > I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
> > as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
> > the oVirt Engine.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
> >
> >
>
> looks very nice.
>
> This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
> i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload
iso's" or
> it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
> for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
> engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
> iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should avoid
so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the
authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and probably
not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
this should be a core feature not an add-on within the current
monolithic
implementation, as there is no access to vdsm interaction from any of the
interfaces.
Nir
6:52 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
"李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
> "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Lucas Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
"devel"
> > <devel(a)ovirt.org>,
> > "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> > <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>
> > Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Scott
Herold"
> > <sherold(a)redhat.com>, "Allon Mureinik"
> > <amureini(a)redhat.com>, "Federico Simoncelli"
<fsimonce(a)redhat.com>,
> > "Barak
> > Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com>, "Brian
> > Proffitt" <bproffit(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:35:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> >
> > On 12/12/2014 05:15 AM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for
oVirt
> > > web administration application to let user upload iso files.
> > >
> > > I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
> > > angularjs with the ng-flow module
<https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow>
> > > on
> > > the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
> > > <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine
> > > tool
> > > on the server-side.
> > >
> > > All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository :
> > > iso-uploader-plugin
> > > <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also
> > > check
> > > a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
> > >
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
> > >
> > > I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to
collaborate
> > > as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
> > > the oVirt Engine.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
> > >
> > >
> >
> > looks very nice.
> >
> > This is actually very interesting (and requested by multiple folks) but
> > i'd like to see if we should focus on the more simple "upload
iso's" or
> > it doing more than just upload ISO's, but also VMs.
> > for the latter, architecture would probably be a servlet[1] on the
> > engine and stream to vdsm to write to storage, so both vm disks and/or
> > iso's could be uploaded/downloaded.
>
> using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should
> avoid
> so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
> vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the
> authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and probably
not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
thanks.
I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it be supported when
messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good idea to add functionality on top of
this one.
this should be core feature, it cannot be implemented as plugin within the current
monolithic implementation.
> this should be a core feature not an add-on within the current monolithic
> implementation, as there is no access to vdsm interaction from any of the
> interfaces.
Nir
7:09 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"Michal Skrivanek"
> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
> <laravot(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas Vandroux"
> > <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
> > "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
> > <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> >
> >
> > using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should
> > avoid
> > so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
> > vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on the
> > authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
>
> Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
>
> This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and probably
> not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
>
> See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
thanks.
I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it be
supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good idea to
add functionality on top of this one.
The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the interesting
part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages are
reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because it's
not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
messaging.
Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
(and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
this should be core feature, it cannot be implemented as plugin
within the
current monolithic implementation.
+1
--
Federico
7:15 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>,
"潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:09:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
> Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
> Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
> > Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> > <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"Michal
> > Skrivanek"
> > <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
> > <laravot(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > > To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas Vandroux"
> > > <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
> > > "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
> > > <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> > >
> > >
> > > using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we should
> > > avoid
> > > so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
> > > vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on
> > > the
> > > authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
> >
> > Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
> >
> > This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and
> > probably
> > not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
> >
> > See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
>
> thanks.
> I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it be
> supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good idea
> to
> add functionality on top of this one.
The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the interesting
part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages are
reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because it's
not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
messaging.
Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
(and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
there are plans to use messaging/broker to access hosts.
this should abstract the physical location of the host.
using direct connection to host in addition to broker is something that should be
avoided.
once solution may be to obtain connection information from the control channel, but one of
the "problems" that will nice to be solved is to stop initiating connections
from manager.
> this should be core feature, it cannot be implemented as plugin within the
> current monolithic implementation.
+1
--
Federico
7:33 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>,
"潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:15:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:09:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
> > Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
> > Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
> > Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
> > > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > > Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
> > > Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
> > > <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
> > > Skrivanek"
> > > <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
> > > <laravot(a)redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> > > > To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
> > > > <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
> > > > "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
> > > > <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we
> > > > should
> > > > avoid
> > > > so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
> > > > vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on
> > > > the
> > > > authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
> > >
> > > Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
> > >
> > > This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and
> > > probably
> > > not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
> > >
> > > See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
> >
> > thanks.
> > I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it be
> > supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good idea
> > to
> > add functionality on top of this one.
>
> The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the interesting
> part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
> GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages are
> reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
>
> By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because it's
> not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
> messaging.
>
> Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
> (and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
> need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
there are plans to use messaging/broker to access hosts.
this should abstract the physical location of the host.
using direct connection to host in addition to broker is something that
should be avoided.
Agreed, although when we discussed how to coherently move large data
from/to the hosts it became obvious that messaging/broker is not the
right tool.
once solution may be to obtain connection information from the
control
channel, but one of the "problems" that will nice to be solved is to stop
initiating connections from manager.
Retrieving/pushing the REST GET/PUT endpoints from the control path
was exactly what we had in mind. WRT the direction I have no preference
(even though at the moment it's from manager to host and for simplicity
I wouldn't change it right away).
I am not sure if the current implementation is misleading but the fact
that download/uploadImage are something that don't belong to the control
path (regular APIs) should be clear for everyone.
--
Federico
11:34 p.m.
On 12/15/2014 07:33 PM, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
Skrivanek"
> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:15:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:09:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
>>> Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>> Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
>>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
>>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>>> Skrivanek"
>>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
>>>> <laravot(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
>>>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
>>>>> "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
>>>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we
>>>>> should
>>>>> avoid
>>>>> so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
>>>>> vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol based on
>>>>> the
>>>>> authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
>>>>
>>>> Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
>>>>
>>>> This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and
>>>> probably
>>>> not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
>>>>
>>>> See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>> I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it be
>>> supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good idea
>>> to
>>> add functionality on top of this one.
>>
>> The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the interesting
>> part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
>> GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages are
>> reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
>>
>> By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because it's
>> not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
>> messaging.
>>
>> Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
>> (and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
>> need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
>
> there are plans to use messaging/broker to access hosts.
> this should abstract the physical location of the host.
> using direct connection to host in addition to broker is something that
> should be avoided.
Agreed, although when we discussed how to coherently move large data
from/to the hosts it became obvious that messaging/broker is not the
right tool.
> once solution may be to obtain connection information from the control
> channel, but one of the "problems" that will nice to be solved is to stop
> initiating connections from manager.
Retrieving/pushing the REST GET/PUT endpoints from the control path
was exactly what we had in mind. WRT the direction I have no preference
(even though at the moment it's from manager to host and for simplicity
I wouldn't change it right away).
I am not sure if the current implementation is misleading but the fact
that download/uploadImage are something that don't belong to the control
path (regular APIs) should be clear for everyone.
iirc, the current verbs allow vdsm to download or upload, not the
engine. not sure if this will work with "streaming" the images via the
engine, vs. having to 'store and forward' them.
12:27 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>, "Alon Bar-Lev"
<alonbl(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>,
"Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
On 12/15/2014 07:33 PM, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:15:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:09:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
>>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
>>>> Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>>> Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>,
"devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
>>>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
>>>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>>>> Skrivanek"
>>>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
>>>>> <laravot(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
>>>>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
>>>>>> "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
>>>>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> avoid
>>>>>> so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
>>>>>> vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol
based on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
>>>>>
>>>>> Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains, and
>>>>> probably
>>>>> not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
>>>>
>>>> thanks.
>>>> I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it
be
>>>> supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good
>>>> idea
>>>> to
>>>> add functionality on top of this one.
>>>
>>> The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the interesting
>>> part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
>>> GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages
>>> are
>>> reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
>>>
>>> By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because it's
>>> not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
>>> messaging.
>>>
>>> Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
>>> (and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
>>> need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
>>
>> there are plans to use messaging/broker to access hosts.
>> this should abstract the physical location of the host.
>> using direct connection to host in addition to broker is something that
>> should be avoided.
>
> Agreed, although when we discussed how to coherently move large data
> from/to the hosts it became obvious that messaging/broker is not the
> right tool.
>
>> once solution may be to obtain connection information from the control
>> channel, but one of the "problems" that will nice to be solved is to
stop
>> initiating connections from manager.
>
> Retrieving/pushing the REST GET/PUT endpoints from the control path
> was exactly what we had in mind. WRT the direction I have no preference
> (even though at the moment it's from manager to host and for simplicity
> I wouldn't change it right away).
>
> I am not sure if the current implementation is misleading but the fact
> that download/uploadImage are something that don't belong to the control
> path (regular APIs) should be clear for everyone.
iirc, the current verbs allow vdsm to download or upload, not the
engine. not sure if this will work with "streaming" the images via the
engine, vs. having to 'store and forward' them.
Using "download" would require 'store and forward'. On the other hand
upload should support streaming because engine (or its separate component)
would be just a (streaming) proxy between the client and vdsm.
--
Federico
12:32 a.m.
On 12/16/2014 12:27 AM, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>, "Alon
Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
> Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:34:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>
> On 12/15/2014 07:33 PM, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>> To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
>>> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:15:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
>>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas Vandroux"
>>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot"
<laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
>>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
>>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:09:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> To: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛"
<jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
>>>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron
>>>>> Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>>>> Skrivanek" <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:52:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nir Soffer" <nsoffer(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>,
"devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
>>>>>> Vandroux" <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "李建盛"
>>>>>> <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "潘礼洋"
<liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal
>>>>>> Skrivanek"
>>>>>> <mskrivan(a)redhat.com>, "Liron Aravot"
>>>>>> <laravot(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:47:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "devel" <devel(a)ovirt.org>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
>>>>>>> <lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>,
>>>>>>> "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>,
"潘礼洋"
>>>>>>> <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 11:47:26 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> using ssh and/or nfs to send artifacts to hosts is something
we
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> avoid
>>>>>>> so using iso/image uploader tools are not a solution.
>>>>>>> vdsm should support uploading images using its own protocol
based on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> authentication between engine and vdsm, is it already?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vdsm does support upload over http/https directly to storage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This feature is used to store ovf backups on storage domains,
and
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> not very efficient, but may be good enough for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See vdsm/rpc/BindingXMLRPC.py (do_PUT)
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> I hear this function is not supported by the new jsonrpc, nor will it
be
>>>>> supported when messaging will be used... so not sure if it is a good
>>>>> idea
>>>>> to
>>>>> add functionality on top of this one.
>>>>
>>>> The format (xmlrpc/jsonrpc) here is not much interesting, the
interesting
>>>> part is the transport. In fact current download/uploadImage uses REST
>>>> GET/PUT for downloading/uploading the images (only the errors/messages
>>>> are
>>>> reported with xmlrpc or eventually they could be reported with jsonrpc).
>>>>
>>>> By design they were not mixed with the other control APIs (because
it's
>>>> not control, it's data). And indeed it cannot be transported with
>>>> messaging.
>>>>
>>>> Uploading/dowloading data to/from the host involves a data transport
>>>> (and http REST is the most commonly used). Which is exactly what you
>>>> need here, and it was in fact designed for this use case.
>>>
>>> there are plans to use messaging/broker to access hosts.
>>> this should abstract the physical location of the host.
>>> using direct connection to host in addition to broker is something that
>>> should be avoided.
>>
>> Agreed, although when we discussed how to coherently move large data
>> from/to the hosts it became obvious that messaging/broker is not the
>> right tool.
>>
>>> once solution may be to obtain connection information from the control
>>> channel, but one of the "problems" that will nice to be solved is
to stop
>>> initiating connections from manager.
>>
>> Retrieving/pushing the REST GET/PUT endpoints from the control path
>> was exactly what we had in mind. WRT the direction I have no preference
>> (even though at the moment it's from manager to host and for simplicity
>> I wouldn't change it right away).
>>
>> I am not sure if the current implementation is misleading but the fact
>> that download/uploadImage are something that don't belong to the control
>> path (regular APIs) should be clear for everyone.
>
>
> iirc, the current verbs allow vdsm to download or upload, not the
> engine. not sure if this will work with "streaming" the images via the
> engine, vs. having to 'store and forward' them.
Using "download" would require 'store and forward'. On the other hand
upload should support streaming because engine (or its separate component)
would be just a (streaming) proxy between the client and vdsm.
I thought 'upload' is vdsm pushing to say, glance. not accepting from
engine?
12:50 a.m.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com>
To: "Federico Simoncelli" <fsimonce(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com>, "devel"
<devel(a)ovirt.org>, "李建盛" <jiansheng.li(a)eayun.com>, "Lucas
Vandroux"
<lucas.vandroux(a)eayun.com>, "Liron Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com>,
"潘礼洋" <liyang.pan(a)eayun.com>, "Michal Skrivanek"
<mskrivan(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:32:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] UI Plugin to Upload ISO Files
On 12/16/2014 12:27 AM, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
>>
>>
>> iirc, the current verbs allow vdsm to download or upload, not the
>> engine. not sure if this will work with "streaming" the images via
the
>> engine, vs. having to 'store and forward' them.
>
> Using "download" would require 'store and forward'. On the other
hand
> upload should support streaming because engine (or its separate component)
> would be just a (streaming) proxy between the client and vdsm.
>
I thought 'upload' is vdsm pushing to say, glance. not accepting from
engine?
Yeah it's confusing. Those are different upload/download verbs that
are not involving data to/from engine at all.
Basically those are regular tasks: upload or download an image to/from
an http server. They go through control path because data path is
between vdsm and the remote http server.
The REST api that we're discussing here instead is the (let's say)
glance-like interface that was designed exactly for this download
and upload image use-case from the calling endpoint (it is used for
the ovf files and I think hosted-engine is using it to inject the
engine appliance).
In mind we had streaming, not sure how much of that ended up in
real code (schedule was extremely tight at that time).
--
Federico
7:59 p.m.
On 12/11/14 10:15 PM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
Dear all,
I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
web administration application to let user upload iso files.
I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
<http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
on the server-side.
All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository
: iso-uploader-plugin
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
<https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
the oVirt Engine.
Best regards,
- Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
Lucas,
I am glad to see someone finally picking this up.
I don't maintain the ISO uploader anymore but I can offer you some
suggestions that may help you with your effort.
1) The mount command which is used by the 'ovirt-iso-uploader' requires
root. Hence, the calling process must be root. If you shell out to the
'ovirt-iso-uploader' from a servlet running in Ovirt Engine the calling
process will not be root. Instead, it will be the user 'ovirt'. As
such, uploading a file will fail because the mount command will fail.
To circumvent this issue, I suggest you investigate creating a
consolehelper script to call the program as the user 'ovirt' and elevate
your privileges to root. I would avoid sudo for this purpose.
2) The plug-in you are creating will only work if Ovirt Engine can
actually reach the NFS server. AIUI, there are valid configurations
where Hypervisors can reach the NFS server but the Engine cannot. I am
not sure if this is still the case but you will want to gracefully
handle this.
3) SSH is easier. If you can SSH to the NFS server and upload the files
that way then you will not have to shell out to the
'ovirt-iso-uploader'. You can use the Java SSH library that ships with
oVirt. I would suggest you review lines in [1] so that you understand
the necessary file permissions. It is important to note; however, that
not all NFS server support SSH so this should not be the default
uploading mechanism.
HTH,
Keith
[1] http://goo.gl/0ihn8W
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1:08 a.m.
On 12/15/2014 07:59 PM, Keith Robertson wrote:
On 12/11/14 10:15 PM, Lucas Vandroux wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm actually working to create a custom user interface plugin for oVirt
> web administration application to let user upload iso files.
>
> I'm in the very first stage of the project. I'm planning to use
> angularjs with the ng-flow module <https://github.com/flowjs/ng-flow> on
> the client-side and a java servlet using the ovirt-iso-uploader
> <http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_engine_tools#ovirt-iso-uploader> engine tool
> on the server-side.
>
> All my code is going to be on Github in the following repository
> : iso-uploader-plugin
> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin>;. You can also check
> a more detailed version of the specifications on my wiki
> <https://github.com/ovirt-china/iso-uploader-plugin/wiki/Specifications>;.
>
> I'm writing to you guys to know if there is a way for us to collaborate
> as you may also want to develop something like this to be integrated in
> the oVirt Engine.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Lucas Vandroux （冯凯）
>
Lucas,
I am glad to see someone finally picking this up.
I don't maintain the ISO uploader anymore but I can offer you some
suggestions that may help you with your effort.
1) The mount command which is used by the 'ovirt-iso-uploader' requires
root. Hence, the calling process must be root. If you shell out to the
'ovirt-iso-uploader' from a servlet running in Ovirt Engine the calling
process will not be root. Instead, it will be the user 'ovirt'. As
such, uploading a file will fail because the mount command will fail.
To circumvent this issue, I suggest you investigate creating a
consolehelper script to call the program as the user 'ovirt' and elevate
your privileges to root. I would avoid sudo for this purpose.
2) The plug-in you are creating will only work if Ovirt Engine can
actually reach the NFS server. AIUI, there are valid configurations
where Hypervisors can reach the NFS server but the Engine cannot. I am
not sure if this is still the case but you will want to gracefully
handle this.
3) SSH is easier. If you can SSH to the NFS server and upload the files
that way then you will not have to shell out to the
'ovirt-iso-uploader'. You can use the Java SSH library that ships with
oVirt. I would suggest you review lines in [1] so that you understand
the necessary file permissions. It is important to note; however, that
not all NFS server support SSH so this should not be the default
uploading mechanism.
though as mentioned on the thread, we'd really love to see this done via
upload to storage via vdsm communication.
HTH,
Keith
[1] http://goo.gl/0ihn8W
>
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