This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2CJSCa5kfB0ILu2JVP8i3TauuEkNCqE1m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quack, On 04/11/2016 05:38 PM, Barak Korren wrote:
Well, what kind of hand is needed?
Help about the VM, you replied to this part (which unfortunately began off-list, my bad), thanks. The other part is tracking the features you need, to see if upgrading Foreman and using the work Misc pointed at could be a working solution. Because if an important feature is missing, then this path will not happen now. And then if it is a possible path, are you all willing to work on this migration?
I remain unconvinced about the benefits of using Ansible here as oppsed to the downsides of maintaining two CM systems in parallel.
I only viewed Mailman as a proof of concept. I agree maintaining both systems sux. So that's why I'm talking about a possible migration. I guess if it fails then we'll be back to reintegrating MailMan in the current system and this is not that horrible. If it works we can work on converting the rest with the knowledge we gained. I'd be happy to help but clearly I would need some time and energy from people in the project. Other OSAS members could also give a hand.
Yeah I'm the current owner of the ticket to upgrade it and migrate it to PHX, I will get to it eventually...
I think doing this kind of work will benefit us as well as others, it should not be too much trouble imo. Consider sending a rough patch to Gerrit, we can help and lead you from=
I've no idea about your workload, nor about the urgency of migrating Mailman. I think this is important to check our availability and will to invest on this. there. Probably. Nevertheless it seems most projects OSAS are in touch with are getting out of Puppet and I myself in other projects decided not to go into this solution after some comparison and XP collection. So you may understand I'd like to invest my time in something not totally ephemeral. But if this migration is rejected or postponed, I will.
Eyal suggested using Ansible right now in a one-off fashion to get the Mailman server up. I don't particularity like that idea beucase it seems to me it would make us incur some technical debt we will not pay quickly. I'd rather pay it upfront. But I can understand if we want to take such short cuts it the interest of getting Mailman out of some bad state it is currently it. I'm not sure what is the situation with it right now.
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