Tagline on ovirt.org does not communicate a clear and simple message
Hi, The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear: "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center". "Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is. Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better. This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"? Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra@ovirt.org and board@ovirt.org. Stefan
want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome Carl. On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi, The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear: "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra@ovirt.org and board@ovirt.org.
Stefan
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want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
Carl.
On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi, The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear: "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the <h2> and <title> (shortened). It's important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra@ovirt.org and board@ovirt.org.
Stefan
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On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric? Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor. Regards, Anthony Liguori
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want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
Carl.
On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi, The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear: "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the<h2> and<title> (shortened). It's important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra@ovirt.org and board@ovirt.org.
Stefan
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Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor.
Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :) Alex
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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want to take a hack at improving it, all improvements welcome
Carl.
On 01/06/2012 04:32 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
Hi, The tagline on ovirt.org is long and unclear: "Complete and Comprehensive Open Source Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform for the Data Center".
"Complete and Comprehensive" is almost a tautology. "Infrastructure and Management Virtualization Platform" does not make sense, I'm not sure what a "Management Virtualization Platform" is.
Something shorter would communicate what ovirt.org is about better.
This tagline is used in the<h2> and<title> (shortened). It's important because this is how visitors learn what oVirt is and whether to read more. How about shortening it to, "Complete Open Source Virtualization Platform for the Data Center"?
Thanks to mburns on #ovirt for directing me to infra@ovirt.org and board@ovirt.org.
Stefan
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On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines
Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor. Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword mapping with google.
On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor. Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword mapping with google.
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them. Maybe virt in the tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page? Carl.
On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform > > Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor. Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword mapping with google.
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I understood as the purpose of oVirt. Regards, Anthony Liguori
Maybe virt in the tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
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On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform >> >> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual machines Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric?
Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM hypervisor. Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword mapping with google.
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year. oVirt needs the focus. In theory it can do it all - kvm, xen, containers, cloud, etc. But in practice it would be the best for us to focus of being as good as we can in a more narrow, realistic field. The current field is enterprise virtualization using kvm. IMHO that's the right one and there is plenty of work to do around it. Spreading around will slow down the main effort (even if others do the work). Potentially in a year time we may re-evaluate things.
Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I understood as the purpose of oVirt.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
Maybe virt in the tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board
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On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>:
> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform >>> >>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual >>> machines > Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric? > > Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM > hypervisor. Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :)
I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better keyword mapping with google.
One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however if some summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and they 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year.
+1, we indeed need to focus on making it the best virtualization platform we can and that means focus on kvm.
oVirt needs the focus. In theory it can do it all - kvm, xen, containers, cloud, etc. But in practice it would be the best for us to focus of being as good as we can in a more narrow, realistic field. The current field is enterprise virtualization using kvm. IMHO that's the right one and there is plenty of work to do around it. Spreading around will slow down the main effort (even if others do the work).
Potentially in a year time we may re-evaluate things.
Er, would we? That seems to go pretty much against what I understood as the purpose of oVirt.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
Maybe virt in the tagline, and then KVM in the blurb text below on the main page?
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On 01/18/2012 03:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote:
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On 01/17/2012 05:15 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 01/17/2012 09:02 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
> On 01/13/2012 12:50 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: >>> On 01/12/2012 05:43 PM, Alexander Graf wrote: > >>>> Am 12.01.2012 um 23:32 schrieb Anthony > >>>> Liguori<aliguori@us.ibm.com>: > >>>> >> > >>>>>> On 01/12/2012 03:53 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: >>>> > >>>>>>>> oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform >>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor hypervisors and virtual >>>> > >>>>>>>> machines >> > >>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM >> > >>>>>> hypervisor. > >>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will > >>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :) >>> >>> I wonder if we should spell it out also, if only to get better >>> keyword >>> mapping with google. >>> > > One additional though is that we primarily focus on KVM, however > if some > summits patches for linux container (as an example) support and > they > 'fit' in well, we would most likely take them.
I'm not in favor of non kvm activities too. At least for this year. +1, we indeed need to focus on making it the best virtualization platform we can and that means focus on kvm.
In the initial docs, we said focus on kvm, which would mean focus on kvm, with the door technically open to something that really makes sense, however I agree we need focus for the next year or so. My main concern however in the tagline is to have virt or KVM also written out to get boarder search. Many people just want an open virt & manager, and I don't think many care if it is KVM or foo, as long as it works. i.e. attract the broadest user population as possible. Clearly devs, and power users will care, but those that care will naturally find the project. Carl.
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in the KVM >>>>>>>>>> hypervisor. >>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to oVirt will >>>>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :) >>>>>>
can we do "Provision, manage and monitor KVM - hypervisors and virtual machines"
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>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the tag line should be more KVM centric? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor virtual machines in >>>>>>>>>>> the KVM >>>>>>>>>>> hypervisor. >>>>>>> Provision, manage and monitor KVM? Whoever comes to >>>>>>> oVirt will >>>>>>> hopefully know which kvm we're talking about :) >>>>>>>
can we do
"Provision, manage and monitor KVM - hypervisors and virtual machines"
How about something like: oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
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On 01/18/2012 03:14 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
How about something like:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
I like. Carl.
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oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So: "Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines" - - Karsten - -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Architect team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFPF0wg2ZIOBq0ODEERAqI+AKCzkbHgNqwk/2z0BSKzU0UmW7O8VQCdFsfO yKSYkNkmn0kp05ripMBSxag= =agiE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 01/19/2012 12:48 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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On 01/18/2012 12:14 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
"Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines"
what about the storage and network for them?
On 01/19/2012 04:36 AM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 01/19/2012 12:48 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote:
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On 01/18/2012 12:14 PM, Ayal Baron wrote:
oVirt - the virtual datacenter management platform
Provision, manage and monitor hosts, hypervisors and virtual machines
Driving the KVM ecosystem to the next level
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
"Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines"
what about the storage and network for them?
ack. and applying
Small but important change, the serial lists need to have a final comma so the last items in the list are properly separated. So:
"Provision, manage, and monitor hosts, hypervisors, and virtual machines" what about the storage and network for them? ack. and applying
Take a look, home page updated. Carl.
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Alexander Graf -
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Dor Laor -
Itamar Heim -
Karsten 'quaid' Wade -
Stefan Hajnoczi