Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: * http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 * https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 * https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: * http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ * https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. Regards, Samuel
Hi Samuel, Thanks for all the inputs on that. I'd be more conservative at this moment and do not change anything else unless the sidebar. Only because it seems to be simpler to do now to solve the original issue and we can invest time in other features. So my preference is for what is shown on ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png Regards, Aline Manera On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Hi Aline, Even if we use this sidebar, I think for full hd resolutions and bigger we would have to remove the left margin from Wok header and navigation bar or it would look weird. I'll test with a floating button that toggles the sidebar/panel and send the screenshots. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: segunda-feira, 4 de julho de 2016 17:48 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Kimchi Devel <kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, Thanks for all the inputs on that. I'd be more conservative at this moment and do not change anything else unless the sidebar. Only because it seems to be simpler to do now to solve the original issue and we can invest time in other features. So my preference is for what is shown on ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png Regards, Aline Manera On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: * http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 * https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 * https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: * http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ * https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. Regards, Samuel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
I want to mention that the sidebars of ginger_sidebar_1 and ginger_storage2 , as far as I've understood, it's just a 'shortcut' to show the selected feature while hiding the other ones. This is not exactly what I had in mind when I first proposed the sidebar layout. I was thinking about an exclusive content panel, containing only the selected feature and nothing else. Also, this does not solve the problem Ginger has with multiple second level tabs - we're keeping all tabs and changing only their inner layout. My first idea was to put all Ginger features in the "Administration" tab, with sections and subsections in the sidebar. We would have the "Storage" section and the submenus would be the name of each feature the tab holds today (File systems, SAN adapters ...). Same thing with the rest of Ginger second level tabs. Daniel On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Hi team, Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea). Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: * http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 * https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 * https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: * http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ * https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. Regards, Samuel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
Hi Samuel, I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab. Regards, Aline Manera On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab. Regards, Aline Manera On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea). Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: · http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 · https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 · https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: · http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ · https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. Regards, Samuel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
Looks really good for me! +1 On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Looks good Samuel Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system. Daniel On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them. Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Henrique Barboza Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Looks good Samuel Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system. Daniel On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote: Looks really good for me! +1 On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab. Regards, Aline Manera On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea). Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: · http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 · https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 · https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: · http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ · https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. 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Hi Samuel, There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that. The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs. On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Henrique Barboza *Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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I'm not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that: 1- Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab. OR 2- Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options. Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that. The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs. On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them. Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Henrique Barboza Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Looks good Samuel Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system. Daniel On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote: Looks really good for me! +1 On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab. Regards, Aline Manera On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea). Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: · http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 · https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 · https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: · http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ · https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. Regards, Samuel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel _______________________________________________ Kimchi-devel mailing list Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Henrique Barboza *Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Hi team, I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I've sent but it occurred to me that is still impossible to work with this sidebar without performing some changes in Wok JS due to user access roles, unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule. Right now the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles: <access role="admin" mode="admin" /> <access role="user" mode="none" /> Should I keep this role to just the "Administration" tab and check other pages by the capabilities? Regards, Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: I'm not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that: 1- Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab. OR 2- Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options. Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger. I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com><mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that. The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs. On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them. Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Henrique Barboza Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Looks good Samuel Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system. Daniel On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote: Looks really good for me! +1 On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page. Samuel From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab. Regards, Aline Manera On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea). Samuel From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar Hi Samuel, First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!! I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation. Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones. I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/ Thanks and Regards Chandra On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote: Hi team, We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group. I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs: · http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605 · https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599 · https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597 Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements. In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action: · http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/ · https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/ Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/ In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left. 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Hi Samuel, This is some thing I felt as a constraint so far... Ideally: 1. Any user who can log on to the system (normal user) should at least have the listing capabilities for most of the functionalities (except for the functionality where listing capabilities require admin privileges and we do not want such details normal user shown ). This is some thing we are missing from the tool. 2. Based on the user role and responsibilities, functionalities (ie actions etc.) can be enabled or disabled. I am sure this some thing we have to work upon. So from my view, I would recommend you to keep above points in mind while we are coming up with the side pane, so that minimal re-work in the future !!! Regards Chandra On 8/31/16 1:42 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I’ve sent but it occurred to me that is still impossible to work with this sidebar without performing some changes in Wok JS due to user access roles, unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule. Right now the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
Should I keep this role to just the “Administration” tab and check other pages by the capabilities?
Regards,
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com> <mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Henrique Barboza *Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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On 08/30/2016 05:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I’ve sent but it occurred to me that is still impossible to work with this sidebar without performing some changes in Wok JS due to user access roles, unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule. Right now the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
Should I keep this role to just the “Administration” tab and check other pages by the capabilities?
I'd say to keep the configuration only for Administration tab and we can discuss more about Ginger authorization later. As per configuration: <access role="admin" mode="admin" /> <access role="user" mode="none" /> The Administration tab should not be loaded for a normal user. It will be visible and accessible only for admin. Is that the right approach? Maybe not. As Chandra said in the other email, maybe it is better to let a normal user has a read-only for some features. But I don't think we should change that right now. Changing the layout first is better and then we start a new discussion related to authorization levels on Ginger community.
Regards,
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com> <mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file. It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab "Administration". That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Henrique Barboza *Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br> <mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Hi Samuel, +1 from me. I feel, this will also help in future easy elimination of second level. Regards Chandra On 7/13/16 2:24 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com] *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53 *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel@ovirt.org *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards, Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50 *To:* kimchi-devel@ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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