Remove obsolete Gluster hyperconverged doc
Hi Sandro, It seems that with https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0... all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website. Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ? Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 08:19 Strahil Nikolov < hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro,
It seems that with https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0... all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website.
Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ?
Hi, the Gluster & Hyperconverged deployment moved outside the documentation section on the website: https://ovirt.org/dropped/gluster-hyperconverged/ as it's outdated and unmaintained. GlusterFS is being deprecated for usage on storage domains: Bug 2016359 <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359> - Deprecate usage of GlusterFS for Storage Domains And the hyperconverged solution for oVirt is based on GlusterFS, so it's being deprecated as well.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
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This is the first time I hear that hyperconverged won't be supported in the short future. Since Ceph is supported by oVirt, wouldn't it be possible to use this for hyperconverged deployments? We are in the planning phase to buy servers for a typical 3 Gluster/Hosts nodes deployment. Should we rethink it? Guillaume Pavese Ingénieur Système et Réseau Interactiv-Group On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 4:49 PM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 08:19 Strahil Nikolov < hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro,
It seems that with https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0... all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website.
Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ?
Hi, the Gluster & Hyperconverged deployment moved outside the documentation section on the website: https://ovirt.org/dropped/gluster-hyperconverged/ as it's outdated and unmaintained. GlusterFS is being deprecated for usage on storage domains: Bug 2016359 <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359> - Deprecate usage of GlusterFS for Storage Domains And the hyperconverged solution for oVirt is based on GlusterFS, so it's being deprecated as well.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
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So,we deprecate GlusterFS ? I understand it for RHV , but for oVirt, where support was never an option, it doesn't make sense ? Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 9:43, Sandro Bonazzola<sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote: Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 08:19 Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> ha scritto: Hi Sandro, It seems that with https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0... all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website. Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ? Hi, the Gluster & Hyperconverged deployment moved outside the documentation section on the website: https://ovirt.org/dropped/gluster-hyperconverged/ as it's outdated and unmaintained.GlusterFS is being deprecated for usage on storage domains: Bug 2016359 - Deprecate usage of GlusterFS for Storage DomainsAnd the hyperconverged solution for oVirt is based on GlusterFS, so it's being deprecated as well. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA sbonazzo@redhat.com | | | | Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.
Wait a minute. Use of GlusterFS as a storage backend is now deperecated and will be removed in a future update? What are those who's deployments have GlusterFS as their storage backend supposed to use as a replacement? I'm feeling vibes of the SPICE deprecation all over again..... but moving all of the VM storage data isn't a quick process, and I don't want to move it to something else that will also be depercated by a future RH whim.... -Patrick Hibbs On Fri, 2022-02-04 at 08:42 +0100, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 08:19 Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro,
It seems that with
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0...
all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website.
Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ?
Hi, the Gluster & Hyperconverged deployment moved outside the documentation section on the website: https://ovirt.org/dropped/gluster-hyperconverged/ as it's outdated and unmaintained. GlusterFS is being deprecated for usage on storage domains: Bug 2016359 - Deprecate usage of GlusterFS for Storage Domains And the hyperconverged solution for oVirt is based on GlusterFS, so it's being deprecated as well.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
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I have had a lot of problems with gluster in my HCO environment, so was already leanings towards a storage migration at some point this year. My own plan is to use 2x Synology NAS SA3400 devices and put them into a HA pair that then exposes the storage as NFS (or whatever else I want it exposed as). I was planning on this migration before I saw the notes about Gluster support being officially dropped, and I would be happy to provide more insight to the list on how that progresses. I have a lot of experience with Synology, and they are a low-cost option for highly available storage. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ------- Original Message ------- On Saturday, February 5th, 2022 at 10:43 AM, Patrick Hibbs <hibbsncc1701@gmail.com> wrote:
Wait a minute.
Use of GlusterFS as a storage backend is now deperecated and will be removed in a future update?
What are those who's deployments have GlusterFS as their storage backend supposed to use as a replacement?
I'm feeling vibes of the SPICE deprecation all over again..... but moving all of the VM storage data isn't a quick process, and I don't want to move it to something else that will also be depercated by a future RH whim....
-Patrick Hibbs
On Fri, 2022-02-04 at 08:42 +0100, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 08:19 Strahil Nikolov <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> ha scritto:
Hi Sandro,
It seems that with https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/commit/f3286b2e1f2871978d054250556f1b4f0... all refference to Gluster & Hyperconverged is removed from the website.
Can you clarify the situation with Hyperconverged deployments ?
Hi, the Gluster & Hyperconverged deployment moved outside the documentation section on the website: https://ovirt.org/dropped/gluster-hyperconverged/ as it's outdated and unmaintained.GlusterFS is being deprecated for usage on storage domains: Bug 2016359 - Deprecate usage of GlusterFS for Storage DomainsAnd the hyperconverged solution for oVirt is based on GlusterFS, so it's being deprecated as well.
Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov
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Wait a minute.
Use of GlusterFS as a storage backend is now deperecated and will be removed in a future update?
What are those who's deployments have GlusterFS as their storage backend supposed to use as a replacement?
They are to fully understand the opportunities and risks that come from a community open source project: 1. Risk: the project can die at any time from lack of support 2. Opportunity: if you help developing a sufficiently great alternative it may be taken aboard
I'm feeling vibes of the SPICE deprecation all over again..... but moving all of the VM storage data isn't a quick process, and I don't want to move it to something else that will also be depercated by a future RH whim....
If you want to be safe from "a future RH whim" (it's the community, really, and your organization is free to invest more than RH), you need to look for or create a community where RH is the minority. In short, it's somewhat unreasonable to expect others to go to unreasonable lenghts to support you for free. But they could have done a much better job at describing just how shaky things were.
-Patrick Hibbs
On Fri, 2022-02-04 at 08:42 +0100, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
I quote you from the https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359 Sandro Bonazzola 2022-02-07 06:42:27 UTC (In reply to Nir Soffer from comment #4) Is this relevant to oVirt? Do we plan to deprecate Gluster usage in oVirt? The Gluster upstream website doesn't mention any intention to stop the development so I think oVirt is not affected by RHGS EOL. So the question now is what changed???
Ceph native usage (no iscis's or any other abstraction) will do the job and elavate entire thing to a NEXT level. On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 17:51 less foobar via Users <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
I quote you from the https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359 Sandro Bonazzola 2022-02-07 06:42:27 UTC
(In reply to Nir Soffer from comment #4) Is this relevant to oVirt? Do we plan to deprecate Gluster usage in oVirt?
The Gluster upstream website doesn't mention any intention to stop the development so I think oVirt is not affected by RHGS EOL.
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I'm not so sure. Usually Gluster is used in Hyperconverged scenarios.CEPH is more damanding and I would calculate my reaources several times before considering it in Hyperconverged. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 0:01, Leo David<leoalex@gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/KEA2VRL76ELF74...
What advantages does ovirt in hyperconerge mode offer over using glusterfs on a separate stack unrelated to orvirt except as a domain storage? I am looking into moving our NFS server to a distributed redundant solution. What is the best, most reliable, fastest solution I could build that ovirt can use but doesn't manage or is it necessary to let ovirt manage its domains as well TIA On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 3:00 PM Strahil Nikolov via Users <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
I'm not so sure. Usually Gluster is used in Hyperconverged scenarios. CEPH is more damanding and I would calculate my reaources several times before considering it in Hyperconverged.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
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HCI architectured virtualisation enviroments provide quite a lot of benefits for different implementation scenarios. From rought point of view, they combine 3 main components in horizontal scaling out fashion ( compute, storage, networking) As a starting point, i think you may want to have a look on this: https://storpool.com/blog/is-hyper-converged-infrastructure-what-you-need/ Regards, Leo On Mon, Feb 14, 2022, 08:00 Pascal DeMilly <pascal@mantra-soft.com> wrote:
What advantages does ovirt in hyperconerge mode offer over using glusterfs on a separate stack unrelated to orvirt except as a domain storage? I am looking into moving our NFS server to a distributed redundant solution. What is the best, most reliable, fastest solution I could build that ovirt can use but doesn't manage or is it necessary to let ovirt manage its domains as well
TIA
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 3:00 PM Strahil Nikolov via Users <users@ovirt.org> wrote:
I'm not so sure. Usually Gluster is used in Hyperconverged scenarios. CEPH is more damanding and I would calculate my reaources several times before considering it in Hyperconverged.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
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I'm currently testing ceph with proxmox. Its taking 50Gb of ram for 21 OSDs so yeah lets not compare it to gluster
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