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Re: [ovirt-devel] Re: oVirt and Fedora
by Nir Soffer 11 May '20

11 May '20

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:24 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 2:16 AM Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo(a)redhat.com> wrote: >> >> If you have followed the oVirt project for a few releases you already know oVirt has struggled to keep the pace with the fast innovation cycles Fedora Project is following. >> >> Back in September 2019 CentOS project launched CentOS Stream as a rolling preview of future RHEL kernels and features, providing an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers that sits between Fedora and RHEL. >> >> Since then the oVirt project tried to keep the software working on Fedora, CenOS Stream, and RHEL/CentOS but it became quickly evident the project lacked resources to keep the project running on three platforms. Further, our user surveys show that oVirt users strongly prefer using oVirt on CentOS and RHEL. >> >> With the upcoming end of life of Fedora 30 the oVirt project has decided to stop trying to keep the pace with this amazing platform, focusing on stabilizing the software codebase on RHEL / CentOS Linux. By focusing our resources and community efforts on RHEL/CentOS Linux and Centos Stream, we can provide better support for those platforms and use more time for moving oVirt forward. >> > > This is a humongous mistake. Almost everything with virtualization and storage starts in Fedora. And there are some configurations that will not be possible in CentOS Stream because of the nature of it. > > As far as the oVirt software keeping up with Fedora, the main problem here has always been that people aren't integrating their software into the distribution itself. That's how everything can get tested together. And this comes back to the old bug about fixing vdsm so that it doesn't use /rhev, but instead something FHS-compliant (RHBZ#1369102). Once that is resolved, pretty much the entire stack can go into Fedora. And then you benefit from the Fedora community being able to use, test, and contribute to the oVirt project. As it stands, why would anyone do this for you when you don't even run on the cutting edge platform that feeds into Red Hat Enterprise Linux? This was actually fixed a long time ago. With this commit: https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm/commit/67ba9c4bc860840d6e103fe604b16f494f60a0… You can configure a compatible vdsm that does not use /rhev. Of course it is not backward compatible, for this we need much more work to support live migration between old and new vdsm using different data-center configurations. > It also seems like the oVirt folks are not learning from the mistakes of the RDO project. They gave up on Fedora several years ago, and wound up spending close to two years playing catchup on Python 3, DNF, modularity, virtualization packaging changes, storage APIs, and everything else all at once. They ground to a halt. They paid a price for not keeping up. And their excuse of unaligned lifecycles stopped being true more than two years ago, when OpenStack's release cycles aligned on Fedora's again. They also proved that Fedora's "churn" wasn't the problem because when push comes to shove, they were able to do something based on Fedora 28 (knowing it was the base for RHEL 8). > > CentOS Stream is worthless in most respects because you aren't really testing or integrating anything new most of the time, you're just making new releases of your software on a stale platform. Again, the purpose of CentOS Stream is to provide a window into the RHEL stream development, which by the nature of things isn't very useful for future-proofing. > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list -- devel(a)ovirt.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)ovirt.org > Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html > oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ > List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/devel@ovirt.org/message/JM5UNXG6YI7R2…

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[JIRA] (OVIRT-2936) lists.ovirt.org is missing in google searches
by Evgheni Dereveanchin (oVirt JIRA) 11 May '20

11 May '20

[ https://ovirt-jira.atlassian.net/browse/OVIRT-2936?page=com.atlassian.jira.… ] Evgheni Dereveanchin reassigned OVIRT-2936: ------------------------------------------- Assignee: Marc Dequènes (Duck) (was: infra) > lists.ovirt.org is missing in google searches > --------------------------------------------- > > Key: OVIRT-2936 > URL: https://ovirt-jira.atlassian.net/browse/OVIRT-2936 > Project: oVirt - virtualization made easy > Issue Type: By-EMAIL > Reporter: Yedidyah Bar David > Assignee: Marc Dequènes (Duck) > Attachments: signature.asc > > > Hi all, > I now searched google for "engine certificate problems in MacOS", > expecting to find [1], but didn't get it. > I don't think it's due to our robots.txt [2], because google does find > it in [3]. Perhaps it's due to configuration for our site in google or > whatever, no idea. > Can you please handle? Thanks. > [1] https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/YNL6NSW6GP3IR… > [2] https://lists.ovirt.org/robots.txt > [3] https://www.mail-archive.com/users@ovirt.org/msg60558.html > -- > Didi -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v1001.0.0-SNAPSHOT#100126)

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[JIRA] (OVIRT-2937) Setup account/permissions for ghartuv@redhat.com
by Evgheni Dereveanchin (oVirt JIRA) 11 May '20

11 May '20

[ https://ovirt-jira.atlassian.net/browse/OVIRT-2937?page=com.atlassian.jira.… ] Evgheni Dereveanchin reassigned OVIRT-2937: ------------------------------------------- Assignee: Krapali Rai (was: infra) > Setup account/permissions for ghartuv(a)redhat.com > ------------------------------------------------ > > Key: OVIRT-2937 > URL: https://ovirt-jira.atlassian.net/browse/OVIRT-2937 > Project: oVirt - virtualization made easy > Issue Type: By-EMAIL > Reporter: Guy Hartuv > Assignee: Krapali Rai > > Hi guys > I am a new employee at Red Hat (SE group - Foundation CI/Release team), and > would like to ask for account/permissions to access: > - https://ovirt-jira.atlassian.net/ > - https://jenkins.ovirt.org/ > Thank you > Guy -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v1001.0.0-SNAPSHOT#100126)

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oVirt and Fedora
by Sandro Bonazzola 11 May '20

11 May '20

If you have followed the oVirt project for a few releases you already know oVirt has struggled to keep the pace with the fast innovation cycles Fedora Project is following. Back in September 2019 CentOS project launched CentOS Stream as a rolling preview of future RHEL kernels and features, providing an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers that sits between Fedora and RHEL. Since then the oVirt project tried to keep the software working on Fedora, CenOS Stream, and RHEL/CentOS but it became quickly evident the project lacked resources to keep the project running on three platforms. Further, our user surveys show that oVirt users strongly prefer using oVirt on CentOS and RHEL. With the upcoming end of life of Fedora 30 the oVirt project has decided to stop trying to keep the pace with this amazing platform, focusing on stabilizing the software codebase on RHEL / CentOS Linux. By focusing our resources and community efforts on RHEL/CentOS Linux and Centos Stream, we can provide better support for those platforms and use more time for moving oVirt forward. -- Sandro Bonazzola MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo(a)redhat.com <https://www.redhat.com/> [image: |Our code is open_] <https://www.redhat.com/en/our-code-is-open> *Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to answer this email out of your office hours.*

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Jenkins build became unstable: ovirt_4.2_publish-rpms_nightly #976
by jenkins＠jenkins.phx.ovirt.org 11 May '20

11 May '20

See <https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt_4.2_publish-rpms_nightly/976/display/re…>

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oVirt infra daily report - unstable production jobs - 1187
by jenkins＠jenkins.phx.ovirt.org 10 May '20

10 May '20

Good morning! Attached is the HTML page with the jenkins status report. You can see it also here: - https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/system_jenkins-report/1187//artifact/exported… Cheers, Jenkins

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Re: [oVirt Jenkins] ovirt-system-tests_he-basic-role-remote-suite-master - Build # 406 - Still Failing!
by Yedidyah Bar David 10 May '20

10 May '20

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:35 AM <jenkins(a)jenkins.phx.ovirt.org> wrote: > > Project: https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt-system-tests_he-basic-role-remote-suite… > Build: https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt-system-tests_he-basic-role-remote-suite… Fails for a long time now, but recently, since he-basic-suite-master is fixed, fails with: https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/ovirt-system-tests_he-basic-role-remote-suite… 03:32:03 TASK [ovirt.hosted_engine_setup : Wait for the local VM] *********************** 04:32:09 fatal: [lago-he-basic-role-remote-suite-master-host-0 -> lago-he-basic-role-remote-suite-master-engine.lago.local]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "elapsed": 3605, "msg": "timed out waiting for ping module test success: [Errno 24] Too many open files"} Looked around and failed to find other relevant information. I guess we should somehow (in the playbook or in OST, not sure which is better) collect 'ulimit -a' and open files. Searching google for the exact error message (meaning, both that the ping module failed, and that the reason was too many open files), finds only one place, does not seem related, so I do not think it's a regression in ansible. > > > Build Number: 406 > Build Status: Still Failing > Triggered By: Started by timer > > ------------------------------------- > Changes Since Last Success: > ------------------------------------- > Changes for Build #397 > [Sandro Bonazzola] python3: use print function > > > Changes for Build #398 > [Sandro Bonazzola] python3: use print function > > > Changes for Build #399 > [Sandro Bonazzola] python3: use print function > > > Changes for Build #400 > [Sandro Bonazzola] python3: use print function > > > Changes for Build #401 > [Michal Skrivanek] fix list of packages for storage setup > > > Changes for Build #402 > [Lucia Jelinkova] UI test refactoring > > > Changes for Build #403 > [Galit Rosenthal] Remove reposync from upgrade-from-prevrelease-suite-4.3 > > > Changes for Build #404 > [Marcin Sobczyk] selenium: podman: Add grid setup retries > > > Changes for Build #405 > [Marcin Sobczyk] selenium: podman: Add grid setup retries > > > Changes for Build #406 > [Marcin Sobczyk] selenium: podman: Add grid setup retries > > > > > ----------------- > Failed Tests: > ----------------- > No tests ran. -- Didi

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oVirt infra daily report - unstable production jobs - 1186
by jenkins＠jenkins.phx.ovirt.org 09 May '20

09 May '20

Good morning! Attached is the HTML page with the jenkins status report. You can see it also here: - https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/system_jenkins-report/1186//artifact/exported… Cheers, Jenkins

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oVirt infra daily report - unstable production jobs - 1185
by jenkins＠jenkins.phx.ovirt.org 08 May '20

08 May '20

Good morning! Attached is the HTML page with the jenkins status report. You can see it also here: - https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/system_jenkins-report/1185//artifact/exported… Cheers, Jenkins

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[oVirt Jenkins] cleanup-gated-ovirt-master - Build #145 - FAILURE!
by jenkins＠jenkins.phx.ovirt.org 08 May '20

08 May '20

Build: https://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/cleanup-gated-ovirt-master/145/ Build Name: #145 Build Status: FAILURE Gerrit change: null - title: null - project: null - branch: null - author: null <null>

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