[ovirt-users] User is not authorized, ldap OK, but no user VM

version 3.5.2-1.el6 using ldap authz; this piece is working OK, and verified OK. I use the "Everyone" user to provide default permissions; that includes PowerUserRole for the data center, a bunch of usertemplatebasedVMs, some VnicProfileUser, DiskProfileUser, etc. I add a new user in LDAP; and verify LDAP credentials work (ie, log in to another system that uses the same ldap server) LDAP confirmed working for *other* ovirt users-- not an LDAP issue as far as I can tell. I do *not* specifically add each LDAP user to oVirt, they're added to "groups" in LDAP, so if they have the right group, they should be able to authenticate to oVirt and use the system without me adding each user individually. In any case the narrowed down problem is this: If the user doesn't have permissions (UserRole, etc) for *any* VMs, instead of logging in and getting a blank VM list, they get "User is not authorized to perform this action." If I add that specific user to a test placeholder VM, they can log in. Once they have a VM created, I can erase their user-specific permissions to that initial test VM and everything works as expected. They are able to log in, create VMs, etc. If I remove all permissions for VMs from a user, they get this error. Expected behavior: User without any permissions to any VMs should simply get a blank VM list on login. That way they can create a VM and go from there. Thanks for any help/suggestions, David