Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console

From: Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt; To: David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net>; &quot;dron(a)redhat.com&quot; <dron(a)redhat.com>; Michal Skrivanek <mskrivan(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: &quot;users(a)ovirt.org List" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console On 01/21/2014 10:31 PM, David Li wrote: > Dafna, > > I have restarted the host and now started to install the Vm from scratch. Following Itamar's suggestion this time, I chose VNC as console option. > How can I use vnc viewer to attach to the VM? I don't remember if virt-viewer detects the vnc in the .vv file. but you should have the vnc password and connection details in the vv file to manually connect for sake of testing. you should also be able to use ovirt cli utility to connect to a vm which will launch vnc as well (iirc, via virt-viewer, not vnc viewer) > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dafna Ron <dron(a)redhat.com&gt; >> To: Michal Skrivanek <mskrivan(a)redhat.com&gt; >> Cc: David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net>; &quot;users(a)ovirt.org List" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console >> >> David, >> >> Let's try to debug the issue you have now. >> Can you please attach engine and vdsm logs? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dafna >> >> >> On 01/21/2014 05:32 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote: >>> >>>   On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:26, David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; wrote: >>> >>>>   Before the VM install console problem, everything was normal, the cpu, >> host, storage were done following the quick start guide. >>>   Well, whatever is the reason the symptoms you see suggests something is >> either crashing (vdsm on the host) or is unreachable or misconfigured now. >>>   Depends what you did...:) >>>   Might be easier to start from scratch if unsure... >>> >>> >>>> >>>>   ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>   From: Michal Skrivanek <mskrivan(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>   To: David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>   Cc: Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com>; &quot;users(a)ovirt.org >> List" <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>   Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:24 AM >>>>>   Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>   On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:20, David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>   Itamar, >>>>>> >>>>>>   I tried what you suggested. Now when I restart the VM, it ends >> up in >>>>>   unknown state. Moreover, all storage domains and the host are all >> down. What do >>>>>   I need to do to recover from here? >>>>> >>>>>   Thos is way beyond graphics issues. You have something wrong with >> the basic >>>>>   setup. Storage connection? >>>>>   Can all hosts see the engine and vice versa? Any manual firewall >> tweaks? >>>>> >>>>>   Thanks, >>>>>   michal >>>>>> >>>>>>   ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>   From: Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>   To: David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net>; Michal >> Skrivanek >>>>>   <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>   Cc: &quot;users(a)ovirt.org List" >> <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>   Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:53 PM >>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console >>>>>>> >>>>>>>   On 01/18/2014 12:49 AM, David Li wrote: >>>>>>>>   The node is up and running. I can ssh in no problem. VM >> is started >>>>>   and >>>>>>>   running ok with 0% CPU 3% memory. >>>>>>>>   I don't know how to connect VNC to it, my VNC >> console option is >>>>>   grayed >>>>>>>   out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>   stop the VM. edit it, change console from spice to vnc, >> start VM, >>>>>>>   connect to it again with vnc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>   I also tried " browser plugin" option by >> installing >>>>>   spice-xpi on >>>>>>>   my RHEL6 (which runs the firefox browser). Now when the >> console is >>>>>   launched, a >>>>>>>   popup window shows up but then an error " Unable to >> connect to the >>>>>   graphic >>>>>>>   server". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>   From: Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>   To: David Li <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net>; Michal >> Skrivanek >>>>>>>   <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>   Cc: &quot;users(a)ovirt.org List" >> <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>   Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:38 PM >>>>>>>>>   Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install Console >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>   On 01/18/2014 12:30 AM, David Li wrote: >>>>>>>>>>         This time I tried to use "spice html5 >> browser >>>>>   client". >>>>>>>   I >>>>>>>>>   downloaded the cert from >>>>>   http://<my-engine>/ovirt-engine/ca.crt. >>>>>>>   This time >>>>>>>>>   the console window " spice javascript >> client" showed >>>>>   up in >>>>>>>   the firefox >>>>>>>>>   (24.2.0) but it stays gray. Nothing can be seen. >>>>>>>>>>         So what else am I missing here? >>>>>>>>>   just to rule out things: >>>>>>>>>   - is the geust working correctly for you (ssh?) >>>>>>>>>   - does it happen to consume 100% cpu? >>>>>>>>>   - does vnc work for you correctly for this guest? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>         ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>         From: Michal Skrivanek >>>>>   <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>         To: David Li >> <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>         Cc: Meital Avital >> <mavital(a)redhat.com>; Einav >>>>>   Cohen >>>>>>>>>   <ecohen(a)redhat.com>; Omer Frenkel >>>>>   <ofrenkel(a)redhat.com>; >>>>>>>>>   &quot;users(a)ovirt.org List" >> <users(a)ovirt.org>; >>>>>>>   &quot;dron(a)redhat.com >>>>>>>>>   Ron" <dron(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>         Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:12 AM >>>>>>>>>>>         Subject: Re: [Users] Blank VM Install >> Console >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>         On Jan 17, 2014, at 09:59 , Dafna Ron >>>>>   <dron(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>   wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>           well, I have to admit that it >> has been a while >>>>>   since I >>>>>>>   tried >>>>>>>>>   logging in to >>>>>>>>>>>         a vm console from a Windows OS :) >>>>>>>>>>>>           Adding some people to this which >> I think can >>>>>   help more >>>>>>>   than me... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>           On 01/17/2014 12:58 AM, David Li >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>           Well, it didn't even >> have any traces >>>>>   to tell me >>>>>>>   if >>>>>>>>>   it's >>>>>>>>>>>         installed. I am supposed to see these >> according to >>>>>   the >>>>>>>   instruction but >>>>>>>>>   none of >>>>>>>>>>>         them showed up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>               * IE will prompt you >> with "This >>>>>   website >>>>>>>   wants to >>>>>>>>>   install the >>>>>>>>>>>         following add-on SpiceX.cab... proceed >> by clicking >>>>>   the arrow >>>>>>>   on the >>>>>>>>>   install >>>>>>>>>>>         button and choose "Install for >> All Users of >>>>>   this >>>>>>>   computer". >>>>>>>>>>>>>               * Depending on the >> version of IE a UAC >>>>>   dialog >>>>>>>   may pop up >>>>>>>>>   asking you >>>>>>>>>>>         if you want to allow >> "SpiceX.cab" If it >>>>>   does not >>>>>>>   Click on the >>>>>>>>>   install >>>>>>>>>>>         spice button again and it will. >>>>>>>>>>>>>               * In the UAC dialog >> click on the yes >>>>>   button. >>>>>>>>>>>>>               * The install will now >> proceed in the >>>>>>>   background. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           I am using W7 64bit with >> IE11. My engine >>>>>   is running >>>>>>>   on a >>>>>>>>>   RHEL6 machine. >>>>>>>>>>>         IE11 doesn't really work as of >> now. >>>>>>>>>>>         Try some more reasonable browser, IE10 >> would be also >>>>>   fine. >>>>>>>>>>>         activex setup requires some manual >> work as mentione >>>>>   at >>>>>>>>>>> >> How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal wiki >>>>>>>>>>>         native invocation (that file to >> download you got) is >>>>>   easier, >>>>>>>   just >>>>>>>>>   associate with >>>>>>>>>>>         recent remote viewer and it should >> open >>>>>>>>>>>         it works on Windows, Linux and OSX >> (needs >>>>>>>>>   https://github.com/brianwcook/launchvv >>>>>>>>>>>         in addition) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>         check out >>>>>   http://www.ovirt.org/Console_Client_Resources >>>>>>>>>>>         Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>         mcihal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           From: Dafna Ron >>>>>   <dron(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           To: David Li >>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Cc: Madhav V Diwan >>>>>>>   <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com>; >>>>>>>>>>>         &quot;users(a)ovirt.org&quot; >> <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Sent: Thursday, January >> 16, 2014 4:16 >>>>>   PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Subject: Re: [Users] >> Blank VM Install >>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           1. did you restart >> you're firefox >>>>>   after >>>>>>>   install? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           2. what OS are you >> using? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           On 01/16/2014 11:40 PM, >> David Li >>>>>   wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           This isn't >> working for me at >>>>>   this >>>>>>>   time. I have >>>>>>>>>   gone to the >>>>>>>>>>>         end of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           instructions and clicked >> on >>>>>   "Install >>>>>>>   Spice" >>>>>>>>>   button in IE >>>>>>>>>>>         but nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           happened. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Maybe someone with >> more knowledge >>>>>   should >>>>>>>   come out >>>>>>>>>   and make >>>>>>>>>>>         clarifications. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           ----- Original >> Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           From: Madhav V >> Diwan >>>>>>>>>   <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           To: David Li >>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Cc: >>>>>   &quot;users(a)ovirt.org&quot; >>>>>>>>>   <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Sent: Thursday, >> January 16, >>>>>   2014 1:51 >>>>>>>   PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Subject: Re: >> [Users] Blank VM >>>>>   Install >>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           yuck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           i dont know why >> they do not >>>>>   just have >>>>>>>   this >>>>>>>>>   already done in >>>>>>>>>>>         an rpm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           yes it probably >> works , i >>>>>   have not >>>>>>>   tested it , >>>>>>>>>   but >>>>>>>>>>>         virt-viewer is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           deprecated in >> favor of the >>>>>   newer >>>>>>>   Remote-Viewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           by the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           worst comes to >> worst  you can >>>>>   always >>>>>>>   connect to >>>>>>>>>   the ovirt >>>>>>>>>>>         vm node >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           server via >> virt-manager gui >>>>>   in linux >>>>>>>   .. or using >>>>>>>>>   macports >>>>>>>>>>>         virt-manager >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           in OSX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           and as long as >> you have a >>>>>   username and >>>>>>>   password >>>>>>>>>   set up in >>>>>>>>>>>         libvirt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           password db >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> /etc/libvirt/passwd.db >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           use saslpasswd2 >> -a libvirt >>>>>   $USER  on >>>>>>>   your ovirt >>>>>>>>>   vm host >>>>>>>>>>>         node >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           to add your >> user account so >>>>>   you dont >>>>>>>   mess with >>>>>>>>>   ovirt's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           if you have >> winaxe or some >>>>>   other >>>>>>>   Xwindows on >>>>>>>>>   your windows >>>>>>>>>>>         machine you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           could probably >> just ssh with >>>>>   putty.exe >>>>>>>   to your >>>>>>>>>   ovirt node >>>>>>>>>>>         server and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           virt-manager >> from there while >>>>>>>   displaying back to >>>>>>>>>   your >>>>>>>>>>>         windows desktop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           -----Original >> Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           From: David Li >>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Reply-to: David >> Li >>>>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           To: Madhav V >> Diwan >>>>>>>>>   <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Cc: >> users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>   <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Subject: Re: >> [Users] Blank VM >>>>>   Install >>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Date: Thu, 16 >> Jan 2014 >>>>>   13:35:02 -0800 >>>>>>>   (PST) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Is this page >> still applicable >>>>>   to ovirt >>>>>>>   3.3.2? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal#Add_a_d... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           ----- Original >> Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             From: >> Madhav V Diwan >>>>>>>>>>>         <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             To: David >> Li >>>>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Cc: >>>>>   &quot;users(a)ovirt.org&quot; >>>>>>>>>>>         <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Sent: >> Thursday, January >>>>>   16, 2014 >>>>>>>   1:28 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Subject: >> Re: [Users] >>>>>   Blank VM >>>>>>>   Install >>>>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             install >> them wherever >>>>>   your >>>>>>>   firefox browser >>>>>>>>>   is >>>>>>>>>>>         installed... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             whichever >> machine you >>>>>   are using >>>>>>>   to browse >>>>>>>>>   to the >>>>>>>>>>>         portal from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> unfortunately i believe >>>>>>>   ovirts' spice >>>>>>>>>   viewing >>>>>>>>>>>         only works on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             desktops >> running >>>>>   firefox >>>>>>>   currently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             also the >> ovirt  vnc >>>>>>>   implementation assumes >>>>>>>>>   you have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           remote-viewer  which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             can open >> that .vv file >>>>>   that pops >>>>>>>   up.. >>>>>>>>>   again >>>>>>>>>>>         remote-viewer would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           only be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             available >> on linux >>>>>   desktops.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             there IS >> a MAC OS port >>>>>   for >>>>>>>   remote-viewer , >>>>>>>>>   but >>>>>>>>>>>         i've never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           gotten it to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             work >> without a lot of >>>>>   manual URL >>>>>>>   input >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original >>>>>   Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             From: >> David Li >>>>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Reply-to: >> David Li >>>>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             To: >> Madhav V Diwan >>>>>>>>>>>         <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Cc: >> users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>   <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Subject: >> Re: [Users] >>>>>   Blank VM >>>>>>>   Install >>>>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Date: >> Thu, 16 Jan 2014 >>>>>   11:39:20 >>>>>>>   -0800 >>>>>>>>>   (PST) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Do I need >> these to be >>>>>   installed >>>>>>>   on the >>>>>>>>>   engine or on >>>>>>>>>>>         the machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           where the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             webadmin >> portal browser >>>>>   is being >>>>>>>   run? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Are there >> any ovirt >>>>>   links >>>>>>>   describing >>>>>>>>>   these? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             david >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             ----- >> Original Message >>>>>   ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: Madhav V >>>>>   Diwan >>>>>>>>>>>         <mdiwan(a)diwanconsulting.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               To: >> David Li >>>>>>>>>   <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Cc: >>>>>>>   &quot;users(a)ovirt.org&quot; >>>>>>>>>>>         <users(a)ovirt.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, >>>>>   January 16, >>>>>>>   2014 >>>>>>>>>   10:35 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: >>>>>   [Users] Black >>>>>>>   VM Install >>>>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               you >> ve probabaly >>>>>   not >>>>>>>   install teh >>>>>>>>>   spice xpi in >>>>>>>>>>>         your firefox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           on linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               you >> opened the >>>>>   console , or >>>>>>>   maybe the >>>>>>>>>>>         remote-viewer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           application is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> missing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               use >> yum to install >>>>>   these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> -----Original >>>>>   Message-----R >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> eply-to: David Li >>>>>>>>>>>         <david_li(a)sbcglobal.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: [Users] >>>>>   Black VM >>>>>>>   Install >>>>>>>>>   Console >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Date: Thu, 16 Jan >>>>>   2014 >>>>>>>   10:08:13 -0800 >>>>>>>>>   (PST) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               My >> first time to >>>>>   install a >>>>>>>   VM on >>>>>>>>>   ovirt has >>>>>>>>>>>         encountered a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           problem. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               open >> up a console >>>>>   to >>>>>>>   continue the >>>>>>>>>   install >>>>>>>>>>>         process. But all I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           got is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           blank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> window and a >>>>>   request to >>>>>>>   save a file >>>>>>>>>   which I >>>>>>>>>>>         did. The window >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           remained >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           blank >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> couldn't see >>>>>   any >>>>>>>   activities. I >>>>>>>>>   went to the >>>>>>>>>>>         node itself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           and tried >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> could use virsh >>>>>   tool to >>>>>>>   understand >>>>>>>>>   what's >>>>>>>>>>>         going on. But >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           I was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           asked for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> username and >>>>>   password to >>>>>>>   perform any >>>>>>>>>   actions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               Any >> idea what I >>>>>   should do >>>>>>>   at this >>>>>>>>>   time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>   _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>   http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>   _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>   http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>           Dafna Ron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>           -- >>>>>>>>>>>>           Dafna Ron >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>   _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>           Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>         Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>         Users mailing list >>>>>>>>>>       Users(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>>>>>>>> >>>   _______________________________________________ >>>   Users mailing list >>>   Users(a)ovirt.org >>>   http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> -- >> Dafna Ron >> > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >