2:33 p.m.
Hi Folks,
I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will be a
sell point.
If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate it:
Who are the big users of oVirt??
Why oVirt and not vMware??
(we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
What is the future for oVirt??
Why do you use oVirt??
Any links or ideas appreciated,
BR/David
2:54 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:33 PM, david caughey <djc636(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will be a
sell point.
Good luck!
If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate
it:
Who are the big users of oVirt??
There are many. We don't have a lot of user cases on ovirt.org, but there
are many universities, for example.
Why oVirt and not vMware??
(we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
Is VMware free? Or open? Can you fix bugs or add features to it?
I'm (VERY) biased, but I think ease of use, performance (especially of
Linux VMs) and breadth of integration are the main key points.
What is the future for oVirt??
4.2 Alpha is just around the corner, with new UI and plenty features. Any
area specifically?
Why do you use oVirt??
I know some use it for server virtualization, some for desktop
virtualization. I think more for the former than the latter.
An IAAS for containers based solutions (such as Kubernetes, OpenShift) is
also a strong initiative recently.
It is definitely used for used at any scale - from a home lab, 3 nodes
hyper-converged to enterprise, with hundreds of hosts for mission critical,
highly available services.
Any links or ideas appreciated,
I think such presentation would be more successful if it hit the needs of
the recipients. What are their current pain points? Where would they like
to be tomorrow?
Y.
BR/David
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3:07 p.m.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 2:33 PM, david caughey <djc636(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
> looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will be a
> sell point.
Good luck!
>
> If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate it:
>
> Who are the big users of oVirt??
There are many. We don't have a lot of user cases on ovirt.org, but there
are many universities, for example.
You can also have a look at:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2017-April/081221.html
>
>
> Why oVirt and not vMware??
> (we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
Is VMware free? Or open? Can you fix bugs or add features to it?
I'm (VERY) biased, but I think ease of use, performance (especially of Linux
VMs) and breadth of integration are the main key points.
>
>
> What is the future for oVirt??
4.2 Alpha is just around the corner, with new UI and plenty features. Any
area specifically?
You can also get a hint about what *might* be done in future versions
by searching bugzilla.
Best,
>
>
> Why do you use oVirt??
I know some use it for server virtualization, some for desktop
virtualization. I think more for the former than the latter.
An IAAS for containers based solutions (such as Kubernetes, OpenShift) is
also a strong initiative recently.
It is definitely used for used at any scale - from a home lab, 3 nodes
hyper-converged to enterprise, with hundreds of hosts for mission critical,
highly available services.
>
>
> Any links or ideas appreciated,
I think such presentation would be more successful if it hit the needs of
the recipients. What are their current pain points? Where would they like to
be tomorrow?
Y.
>
>
> BR/David
>
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8:01 p.m.
On 09/07/2017 06:33 AM, david caughey wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will
be a sell point.
Could be hard to sell. It's not like VMware (all in all) is deficient
functionality wise.
If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate
it:
Who are the big users of oVirt??
We use oVirt in production. We have about 130 VMs on a 9 node cluster
using Dell blades. It houses both our test and production VMs. We have
a separate oVirt setup for development hosting probably about 20 VMs
(maybe less), it's an 7 node cluster (but much lesser blades there).
In both cases they are connected to Equalogic iSCSI SAN equipment with
multiple tiers of storage. Each production blade has 4 x 10gbit iSCSI
(multi)paths to storage. The production blade subsystem uses multiple
40Gbit links, for iSCSI storage and for LAN. Just 10Gbit links and 1Gbit
paths on the development blades and subsystem.
Both use a dedicated oVirt management host.
The production(and test) blades run oVirt 3.6 and the dev blades are
oVirt 3.5.
About 2 years ago we migrated our production blades from oVirt 3.4 on
older blades and older SAN equipment to oVirt 3.6 on new blades and new
SAN storage. We used oVirt's export domain to facilitate the move.
We will be migrating off the development cluster and we are setting up a
new cluster on the same DC as our production area which will be used to
house both test and development. Thus we are moving to just the one
oVirt 3.6 (we're adding 5 extra blades for that cluster).
Btw, our VMs include multiple version of CentOS, Windows Server and
Windows desktops (and even some docker nodes, but we're redoing all of
that). Our VMs include about 10 large PostgreSQL database servers, some
MySQL, several Jboss servers, many web microservices (Springboot)
servers and lost of application infrastructure servers.
Why oVirt and not vMware??
(we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
Uh free, and to be honest, that's the best reason to do this IMHO.
What is the future for oVirt??
Unknown. But pretty sure Red Hat will want to keep RHEV around, which
means oVirt probably will be here for quite some time.
Why do you use oVirt??
Free.
Any links or ideas appreciated,
oVirt is NOT VMware. But if you do things "well" oVirt works quite
well. Follow the list to see folks that didn't necessarily do things
"well" (sad, but true).
I inherited this oVirt... not ideal for blades because it's better to
have lots of networks. We just have two blade fabrics, one for SAN and
one for the rest, and it would be nice to have ovirtmgmt and migration
networks be isolated. With that said, with our massively VLAN'd setup,
it does work and has been very reliable. For performance reasons, I
recommend that you attempt to dedicate a host for SPM, or at least keep
the number of VMs deployed there to a minimum. There are tweaks in the
setup to keep VMs off the SPM node (talking mainly if you have a
massively combined network like I have currently).
We've survived many bad events with regards to SAN and power, which is a
tribute to oVirt's reliability. However, you can shoot yourself in the
foot very easily with oVirt... so just be careful.
Is VMware better? Yes. Is it more flexible than oVirt? Yes. Is it
more reliable than oVirt? Yes. In other words, if money is of no
concern, VMware and VCenter.
We will likely never do VMware here due to cost (noting, that the cost
is in VCenter, and IMHO, it's not horrible, but I do not control the
wallet here, and we tend to prefer FOSS here... and FOSS is my personal
preference as well).
Companies generally speaking just want something that works. And oVirt
does work. But if money is of no concern and you need the friendliness
of something VCenter like (noting that not everyone needs VCenter or
RHEV-M or oVirt Manager), then VMware is still better.
If you don't need something VCenter like, I can also so say that libvirt
(KVM) and virt-manager is also reasonable, and we use that as well. But
we also have a (free) ESXi (because we have to, forced requirement).
The ovirtmgmt web ui is gross IMHO. It's a perfect example of an
overweight UI where a simplified UI would have been cleaner, faster and
better. Just because you know how to write thousands of lines of
javascript doesn't mean you should. Not everything needs to act like a
trading floor application or facebook. The art of efficient UI design
has been lost. With that said, the RESTful i/f part is nice. Nice to
the point of not needing the SDK.
Finally, VMware can be expensive. It's not a "one time" purchase. It's
HAS TO BE ongoing. And it can get very expensive if not understood.
With that said, if you have anything Microsoft in the enterprise, you
already understand and are prepared to throw cash for IT infrastructure.
If you do go VMware, make sure to use a hefty Vcenter host as upgrades
to VCenter involve a lot of bloat and waste.
VMware can be a real "pain" support wise. They can deprecate your
entire hypervisor HW stack, especially true in a major release. They
can even deprecate HW in a minor release (I have fallen victim to this).
Thus, again, if you have money to burn and have relatively short HW life
cycles (less than 5 years for sure), AND that includes OS life cycles as
well, then VMware is probably ok. Not saying there aren't some problems
on the oVirt side as well, just saying VMware has more expensive warts.
And thus "paid support" becomes somewhat humorous (but in a sad sort of
way).
(oVirt community support ROCKS! Just saying...)
11:09 p.m.
On September 7, 2017 19:01:58 Christopher Cox <ccox(a)endlessnow.com> wrote:
>
> Any links or ideas appreciated,
oVirt is NOT VMware. But if you do things "well" oVirt works quite
well. Follow the list to see folks that didn't necessarily do things
"well" (sad, but true).
I inherited this oVirt... not ideal for blades because it's better to
have lots of networks. We just have two blade fabrics, one for SAN and
one for the rest, and it would be nice to have ovirtmgmt and migration
networks be isolated. With that said, with our massively VLAN'd setup,
it does work and has been very reliable. For performance reasons, I
recommend that you attempt to dedicate a host for SPM, or at least keep
the number of VMs deployed there to a minimum. There are tweaks in the
setup to keep VMs off the SPM node (talking mainly if you have a
massively combined network like I have currently).
We've survived many bad events with regards to SAN and power, which is a
tribute to oVirt's reliability. However, you can shoot yourself in the
foot very easily with oVirt... so just be careful.
Is VMware better? Yes. Is it more flexible than oVirt? Yes. Is it
more reliable than oVirt? Yes. In other words, if money is of no
concern, VMware and VCenter.
We will likely never do VMware here due to cost (noting, that the cost
is in VCenter, and IMHO, it's not horrible, but I do not control the
wallet here, and we tend to prefer FOSS here... and FOSS is my personal
preference as well).
Companies generally speaking just want something that works. And oVirt
does work. But if money is of no concern and you need the friendliness
of something VCenter like (noting that not everyone needs VCenter or
RHEV-M or oVirt Manager), then VMware is still better.
If you don't need something VCenter like, I can also so say that libvirt
(KVM) and virt-manager is also reasonable, and we use that as well. But
we also have a (free) ESXi (because we have to, forced requirement).
The ovirtmgmt web ui is gross IMHO. It's a perfect example of an
overweight UI where a simplified UI would have been cleaner, faster and
better. Just because you know how to write thousands of lines of
javascript doesn't mean you should. Not everything needs to act like a
trading floor application or facebook. The art of efficient UI design
has been lost. With that said, the RESTful i/f part is nice. Nice to
the point of not needing the SDK.
Finally, VMware can be expensive. It's not a "one time" purchase.
It's
HAS TO BE ongoing. And it can get very expensive if not understood.
With that said, if you have anything Microsoft in the enterprise, you
already understand and are prepared to throw cash for IT infrastructure.
If you do go VMware, make sure to use a hefty Vcenter host as upgrades
to VCenter involve a lot of bloat and waste.
VMware can be a real "pain" support wise. They can deprecate your
entire hypervisor HW stack, especially true in a major release. They
can even deprecate HW in a minor release (I have fallen victim to this).
Thus, again, if you have money to burn and have relatively short HW life
cycles (less than 5 years for sure), AND that includes OS life cycles as
well, then VMware is probably ok. Not saying there aren't some problems
on the oVirt side as well, just saying VMware has more expensive warts.
And thus "paid support" becomes somewhat humorous (but in a sad sort of
way).
(oVirt community support ROCKS! Just saying...)
From my work with both VMware and ovirt. I must say that the ovirt 4.1
installations I have is more reliable that the vsphere/vcenter
installations I maintain.
But the key is to do it well. That applies to any virtualization solution.
If you plan wrong and just throw it in you will have problems.
I use ovirt 4.1.* and gluster as a Backend. And the many things I thought
about in loads of ways has made it rock solid. As a separate vlan for
storage and migration and one for ovirtmanagement.
And yes this is an awesome community :)
/Johan
11:49 p.m.
Who are the big users of oVirt?
By big do you mean size of company or deployment size.
Company-wsie, besides Red Hat?
https://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/user-stories/
We used to do VMware but dumped it mainly because we got sick of the price
tag associated with it. Innovation comes from employees not platforms. We
use oVirt now in our corporate office for internal, dev and some production
systems. We're in a hyper-converged hosted engine setup on CentOS 7 with
storage (GlusterFS) running in replica 3 across 3 nodes on 10GBase-T
switches.
Why oVirt and not vMware?
Free is a big factor and should be considered in decision making process.
The cost savings over 5 years by eliminating VMware licensing alone is
huge. And the technical knowledge to manage oVirt in place of VMware is
easily obtained. You can even try it FOR FREE!
Regardless of the cost however, oVirt is ENTERPRISE VIRTUALIZATION. It is
the upstream project for Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization. In fact the
docs for RHEV can be used to administrate oVirt (for the most part).
You get:
True web based management console (not that crappy Flash interface)
End User Portal
Active Directory integration
Memory Ballooning
Live Migration
Live Storage Migration
High Availability settings
QoS
Host Load Balancing
IPMI power management
VLAN tagging
External or Hyper-converged storage options.
VM resource allocation
Storage Geo Replication (onsite or across the internet to another site).
and one of my favorites... Import VMs straight from VMware to oVirt.
What is the future for oVirt?
RHEV isn't going anywhere. And for there to be RHEV you need oVirt.
They've got some big names using them including British Airways.
https://goo.gl/9jQcsZ
https://goo.gl/mJFzPw
Why do you use oVirt?
Again, it really boils down to licensing costs. VMware is not just an
upfront cost. If you want to get updates you have to maintain your support
license. oVirt does everything we need it to do, and more really, so
purchasing VMware just doesn't make sense. We've also found VMware to not
be as stable as oVirt. Our initial oVirt system has been running for
about 3-4 years (I'd have to look at the ticket to get the exact date)
without so much as a reboot. Our VMware systems kept getting kernel errors
about every 2 months further prompting us to look elsewhere.
--
*Michael Kleinpaste*
Senior Systems Administrator
SharperLending, LLC.
www.SharperLending.com
Michael.Kleinpaste(a)SharperLending.com
(509) 324-1230 Fax: (509) 324-1234
12:04 a.m.
On 09/07/2017 03:49 PM, Michael Kleinpaste wrote:
...snippity di do da...
really, so purchasing VMware just doesn't make sense. We've
also found
VMware to not be as stable as oVirt. Our initial oVirt system has been
running for about 3-4 years (I'd have to look at the ticket to get the
exact date) without so much as a reboot. Our VMware systems kept
getting kernel errors about every 2 months further prompting us to look
elsewhere.
Not to defend VMware too much, but if you buy certified HW for VMware,
I've never had the purple screen of death. With that said, I have had
the purple screen of death using non-certified VMware HW.
Just saying... and again, it does mean that you need to usually spend
more for an effective VMware setup.
12:06 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Christopher Cox <ccox(a)endlessnow.com> wrote:
Not to defend VMware too much, but if you buy certified HW for VMware,
I've never had the purple screen of death. With that said, I have had the
purple screen of death using non-certified VMware HW.
I've worked for a certified hardware vendor, you will not believe the
amount of calls we received for PSODs every day :)
Just saying... and again, it does mean that you need to usually spend
more
for an effective VMware setup.
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12:11 a.m.
On 09/07/2017 04:06 PM, Dan Yasny wrote:
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Christopher Cox <ccox(a)endlessnow.com
<mailto:ccox@endlessnow.com>> wrote:
Not to defend VMware too much, but if you buy certified HW for
VMware, I've never had the purple screen of death. With that said,
I have had the purple screen of death using non-certified VMware HW.
I've worked for a certified hardware vendor, you will not believe the
amount of calls we received for PSODs every day :)
Hmmm... I guess I was fortunate.
10:21 a.m.
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Christopher Cox <ccox(a)endlessnow.com> wrote:
On 09/07/2017 06:33 AM, david caughey wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
> looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will be a
> sell point.
Could be hard to sell. It's not like VMware (all in all) is deficient
functionality wise.
> If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate it:
>
> Who are the big users of oVirt??
We use oVirt in production. We have about 130 VMs on a 9 node cluster using
Dell blades. It houses both our test and production VMs. We have a
separate oVirt setup for development hosting probably about 20 VMs (maybe
less), it's an 7 node cluster (but much lesser blades there).
In both cases they are connected to Equalogic iSCSI SAN equipment with
multiple tiers of storage. Each production blade has 4 x 10gbit iSCSI
(multi)paths to storage. The production blade subsystem uses multiple
40Gbit links, for iSCSI storage and for LAN. Just 10Gbit links and 1Gbit
paths on the development blades and subsystem.
Both use a dedicated oVirt management host.
The production(and test) blades run oVirt 3.6 and the dev blades are oVirt
3.5.
About 2 years ago we migrated our production blades from oVirt 3.4 on older
blades and older SAN equipment to oVirt 3.6 on new blades and new SAN
storage. We used oVirt's export domain to facilitate the move.
We will be migrating off the development cluster and we are setting up a new
cluster on the same DC as our production area which will be used to house
both test and development. Thus we are moving to just the one oVirt 3.6
(we're adding 5 extra blades for that cluster).
Btw, our VMs include multiple version of CentOS, Windows Server and Windows
desktops (and even some docker nodes, but we're redoing all of that). Our
VMs include about 10 large PostgreSQL database servers, some MySQL, several
Jboss servers, many web microservices (Springboot) servers and lost of
application infrastructure servers.
>
> Why oVirt and not vMware??
> (we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
Uh free, and to be honest, that's the best reason to do this IMHO.
>
> What is the future for oVirt??
Unknown. But pretty sure Red Hat will want to keep RHEV around, which means
oVirt probably will be here for quite some time.
>
> Why do you use oVirt??
Free.
>
> Any links or ideas appreciated,
oVirt is NOT VMware. But if you do things "well" oVirt works quite well.
Follow the list to see folks that didn't necessarily do things "well"
(sad,
but true).
I inherited this oVirt... not ideal for blades because it's better to have
lots of networks. We just have two blade fabrics, one for SAN and one for
the rest, and it would be nice to have ovirtmgmt and migration networks be
isolated. With that said, with our massively VLAN'd setup, it does work and
has been very reliable. For performance reasons, I recommend that you
attempt to dedicate a host for SPM, or at least keep the number of VMs
deployed there to a minimum. There are tweaks in the setup to keep VMs off
the SPM node (talking mainly if you have a massively combined network like I
have currently).
Do you routinely have many storage operations going on (create/remove vm,
create/remove disk, take/remove a snapshot etc.)?
If not, do you still recommend a dedicated SPM host?
If yes, why?
See also:
https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/decommi...
It was panned to happen in 4.0, didn't happen yet. No idea about concrete
future plans.
We've survived many bad events with regards to SAN and power, which is a
tribute to oVirt's reliability. However, you can shoot yourself in the foot
very easily with oVirt... so just be careful.
Is VMware better? Yes. Is it more flexible than oVirt? Yes. Is it more
reliable than oVirt? Yes. In other words, if money is of no concern, VMware
and VCenter.
We will likely never do VMware here due to cost (noting, that the cost is in
VCenter, and IMHO, it's not horrible, but I do not control the wallet here,
and we tend to prefer FOSS here... and FOSS is my personal preference as
well).
Companies generally speaking just want something that works. And oVirt does
work. But if money is of no concern and you need the friendliness of
something VCenter like (noting that not everyone needs VCenter or RHEV-M or
oVirt Manager), then VMware is still better.
If you don't need something VCenter like, I can also so say that libvirt
(KVM) and virt-manager is also reasonable, and we use that as well. But we
also have a (free) ESXi (because we have to, forced requirement).
The ovirtmgmt web ui is gross IMHO. It's a perfect example of an overweight
UI where a simplified UI would have been cleaner, faster and better. Just
because you know how to write thousands of lines of javascript doesn't mean
you should. Not everything needs to act like a trading floor application or
facebook. The art of efficient UI design has been lost. With that said,
the RESTful i/f part is nice. Nice to the point of not needing the SDK.
You might want to have a look at:
https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui
That's a replacement ui (not admin), included in 4.1, will replace
user portal in 4.2.
Finally, VMware can be expensive. It's not a "one time" purchase.
It's HAS
TO BE ongoing. And it can get very expensive if not understood. With that
said, if you have anything Microsoft in the enterprise, you already
understand and are prepared to throw cash for IT infrastructure. If you do
go VMware, make sure to use a hefty Vcenter host as upgrades to VCenter
involve a lot of bloat and waste.
VMware can be a real "pain" support wise. They can deprecate your entire
hypervisor HW stack, especially true in a major release. They can even
deprecate HW in a minor release (I have fallen victim to this).
Thus, again, if you have money to burn and have relatively short HW life
cycles (less than 5 years for sure), AND that includes OS life cycles as
well, then VMware is probably ok. Not saying there aren't some problems on
the oVirt side as well, just saying VMware has more expensive warts. And
thus "paid support" becomes somewhat humorous (but in a sad sort of way).
(oVirt community support ROCKS! Just saying...)
(If I was from Red Hat sales, I think I'd be quite happy with your reply :-)
As an oVirt developer, I'd probably ask, about many of your specific points
above: Did you open a bug/RFE about this? Because, you know, opening bugs
is also part of being part of the community).
Best,
--
Didi
11:59 a.m.
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My 0.02€
Cost aside (which is actually not the main reason for the organization I
work for):
* Avoid putting all your eggs in one basket / vendor. This holds true
for any particula area. (Virtualization, storage, network equipment,
server HW). This gives you leverage when negotiating purchases /
renewals / maintenance contract.
* The community support for oVirt ABSOLUTELY ROCKS
* If you are planning to do something with openstack in the short or
mid term, I think oVirt is a nice path to go.
o Integration with Glance / Cinder / Neutron is cool.
o The hypervisor is the same (KVM).
o I have successfully moved VM images to/from openstack and they
worked seamlessly.
o At the same time, the architecture is quite similar to VCenter,
and import of VMs from VMWare works pretty well .
* As the compute nodes (hosts) are mostly plain CentOS 7 it is much
easier to integrate them with whatever you have in place for
monitoring, configuration management, backup...
* The user portal with user quotas can work nicely as self-service for
users, depending on your needs.
* Version update procedures way less painful with oVirt than with VMWare.
* On the downside, I think that functionality-wise, VMWare still has
an edge, but oVirt is good-enough for a lot of use cases.
Eduardo Mayoral Jimeno (emayoral(a)arsys.es)
Administrador de sistemas. Departamento de Plataformas. Arsys internet.
+34 941 620 145 ext. 5153
On 07/09/17 13:33, david caughey wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm giving a demo of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am
looking for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will
be a sell point.
If you could help with the below questions I would really appreciate it:
Who are the big users of oVirt??
Why oVirt and not vMware??
(we are a big vMware house so free doesn't cover it)
What is the future for oVirt??
Why do you use oVirt??
Any links or ideas appreciated,
BR/David
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<p>My 0.02€</p>
<p>Cost aside (which is actually not the main reason for the
organization I work for):</p>
<ul>
<li>Avoid putting all your eggs in one basket / vendor. This holds
true for any particula area. (Virtualization, storage, network
equipment, server HW). This gives you leverage when negotiating
purchases / renewals / maintenance contract.</li>
<li>The community support for oVirt ABSOLUTELY ROCKS</li>
<li>If you are planning to do something with openstack in the
short or mid term, I think oVirt is a nice path to go. <br>
</li>
<ul>
<li>Integration with Glance / Cinder / Neutron is cool. <br>
</li>
<li>The hypervisor is the same (KVM). <br>
</li>
<li>I have successfully moved VM images to/from openstack and
they worked seamlessly. <br>
</li>
<li>At the same time, the architecture is quite similar to
VCenter, and import of VMs from VMWare works pretty well . <br>
</li>
</ul>
<li>As the compute nodes (hosts) are mostly plain CentOS 7 it is
much easier to integrate them with whatever you have in place
for monitoring, configuration management, backup...</li>
<li>The user portal with user quotas can work nicely as
self-service for users, depending on your needs.</li>
<li>Version update procedures way less painful with oVirt than
with VMWare.<br>
</li>
<li>On the downside, I think that functionality-wise, VMWare still
has an edge, but oVirt is good-enough for a lot of use cases.<br>
</li>
</ul>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Eduardo Mayoral Jimeno
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href="mailto:emayoral@arsys.es">emayoral@arsys.es</a>)
Administrador de sistemas. Departamento de Plataformas. Arsys internet.
+34 941 620 145 ext. 5153</pre>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">I'm giving a demo
of our new 3 node oVirt deployment next week and am looking
for some high points that I can give to the Managers that will
be a sell point.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">If you could help
with the below questions I would really appreciate it:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">Who are the big
users of oVirt??</div>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">Why oVirt and not
vMware??</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">(we are a big
vMware house so free doesn't cover it)</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">What is the
future for oVirt??</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">Why do you use
oVirt??</div>
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ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#3366ff">Any links or
ideas appreciated,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet
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