Thanks for reply.. seems guestfish is a tool I need to do some RTFM on. This would I think allow me to read in disk from then "engine" storage. and manipulate files within it. But is their a way to just start the VMs? I guess I jumped from "old school virsh" to relying upon oVirt GUI... and need to buff up on tools that allow me to debug when engine is down. [root@thor ~]# virsh list --all Please enter your authentication name: admin Please enter your password: error: failed to connect to the hypervisor error: authentication failed: authentication failed <<< and I only ever use ONE password for all systems / accounts.... but I think virsh has been depricated... so maybe this is why> I am currently poking around with [root@thor ~]# virt- virt-admin virt-clone virt-diff virt-host-validate virt-ls virt-resize virt-tar-in virt-xml virt-alignment-scan virt-copy-in virt-edit virt-index-validate virt-make-fs virt-sanlock-cleanup virt-tar-out virt-xml-validate virt-builder virt-copy-out virt-filesystems virt-inspector virt-pki-validate virt-sparsify virt-v2v virt-builder-repository virt-customize virt-format virt-install virt-qemu-run virt-sysprep virt-v2v-copy-to-local virt-cat virt-df virt-get-kernel virt-log virt-rescue virt-tail virt-what [root@thor ~]# Does anyone have example of: 1) List VMs 2) start VM named "foo"