Dan is correct and i have actully tested out both of these suggestions and the notes i
have from them are:
OVN Networks -
These work well but seem to be limited in that they do not allow a VLAN ID to be tagged
to them, seems the solution to that is to connect them to an external network which leads
back to the same question of having to have that network be assigned to a nic.
Attaching to a NIC thats down -
This works but wont be a solution in a machine that may not have an extra nic, and was
looking for something more portable, also seems that it stays down due to no carrier
(makes sense), while the dummy interface will show itself as up.
Dummy Network -
This works and will be the way we implement it until we find a reason not to. This will
allow us to use Bridge Networks still which will mimic setups we have that are actually
connected to physical networks, as well VLAN IDs on them.
Side note on this i actually had to use dummy_0 as the name and then restart the engine
before it would show up in the Network Assignment Window for the hosts under "Setup
Host Networks"
Big thanks to you all on helping with this