5:07 a.m.
Hi guys,
I'm soon going to have the following equipment and I'd like to find the
best way to utilise it....
1.) One NEW FC SAN, and 3 new Dell Hosts with FC cards.
2.) One OLD FC SAN with 2 older HP hosts with FC cards. (old VMWare
environment)
3.) Another OLDER FC SAN with 2 older HP Hosts with FC cards. (old VMWare
environment)
4.) I have an existing oVirt 3.5 DR cluster with two hosts and NFS storage
that is current in use and works well.
Each of the above SAN's will only have FC ports to connect to their
existing hosts, so all hosts won't be connected to all SAN's. All hosts
would be the same Centos 7.x release etc.
All existing VM's are going to be moved to the option 1 via a baremetal
restore from backup onto a NEW oVirt platform. Once installed I'd then like
to re-commission 2 and 3 above to make use of the old hardware and SAN's as
secondary or possibly a "new" DR platform to replace or improve on option 4.
Bearing in mind the older hardware will be different CPU generations, would
it be best to add the older hosts and SAN's as new clusters within the same
NEW oVirt installation? Or should I rather just keep 2, 3 and 4 as separate
oVirt installations?
I know in the past live migration wouldn't work with different CPU
generations, and of course my SAN's won't be physically connected to each
of the hosts.
In order to move VM's between 1, 2 and 3 would I need to shut the VM down
and export and import, or is there another way to do this?
Could LSM work between across all three SANS and hosts?
I know I can do a baremetal restore from backup directly onto either 1, 2
or 3 if needed, but I'd like to try tie all of this into one platform if
there is good reason to do so. Any thoughts, suggestions or ideas here?
Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Regards.
Neil Wilson.
7:47 a.m.
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One of the things I don't like very much in oVirt is the LVM on Shared
Block storage, but unfortunately there are no other options. One day
perhaps a VMFS5 equivalent will come up somewhere.
I would avoid it and put a server in between the SAN and the oVirt Nodes
and use NFS in order to abstract it, that would give you more
flexibility and keep you away from LVM. But in your case if you don't
have 10GbE interfaces you will loose on performance using 1GbE interfaces.
With regards the migration of VMs between different CPU families I'm
not sure what is the tolerance of oVirt with it. Depending on the CPUs
and the cluster types you may be able to do migrations.So I would keep
different CPU families in different clusters.
Fernando
Em 15/07/2016 07:07, Neil escreveu:
Hi guys,
I'm soon going to have the following equipment and I'd like to find
the best way to utilise it....
1.) One NEW FC SAN, and 3 new Dell Hosts with FC cards.
2.) One OLD FC SAN with 2 older HP hosts with FC cards. (old VMWare
environment)
3.) Another OLDER FC SAN with 2 older HP Hosts with FC cards. (old
VMWare environment)
4.) I have an existing oVirt 3.5 DR cluster with two hosts and NFS
storage that is current in use and works well.
Each of the above SAN's will only have FC ports to connect to their
existing hosts, so all hosts won't be connected to all SAN's. All
hosts would be the same Centos 7.x release etc.
All existing VM's are going to be moved to the option 1 via a
baremetal restore from backup onto a NEW oVirt platform. Once
installed I'd then like to re-commission 2 and 3 above to make use of
the old hardware and SAN's as secondary or possibly a "new" DR
platform to replace or improve on option 4.
Bearing in mind the older hardware will be different CPU generations,
would it be best to add the older hosts and SAN's as new clusters
within the same NEW oVirt installation? Or should I rather just keep
2, 3 and 4 as separate oVirt installations?
I know in the past live migration wouldn't work with different CPU
generations, and of course my SAN's won't be physically connected to
each of the hosts.
In order to move VM's between 1, 2 and 3 would I need to shut the VM
down and export and import, or is there another way to do this?
Could LSM work between across all three SANS and hosts?
I know I can do a baremetal restore from backup directly onto either
1, 2 or 3 if needed, but I'd like to try tie all of this into one
platform if there is good reason to do so. Any thoughts, suggestions
or ideas here?
Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Regards.
Neil Wilson.
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One of the things I don't like very much in oVirt is the LVM on
Shared Block storage, but unfortunately there are no other options.
One day perhaps a VMFS5 equivalent will come up somewhere.<br>
<br>
I would avoid it and put a server in between the SAN and the oVirt
Nodes and use NFS in order to abstract it, that would give you more
flexibility and keep you away from LVM. But in your case if you
don't have 10GbE interfaces you will loose on performance using 1GbE
interfaces.<br>
<br>
With regards the migration of VMs between different CPU families
I'm not sure what is the tolerance of oVirt with it. Depending on
the CPUs and the cluster types you may be able to do migrations.So I
would keep different CPU families in different clusters.<br>
<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Em 15/07/2016 07:07, Neil
escreveu:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi guys,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm soon going to have the following equipment and I'd like
to find the best way to utilise it....</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1.) One NEW FC SAN, and 3 new Dell Hosts with FC cards.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2.) One OLD FC SAN with 2 older HP hosts with FC cards.
(old VMWare environment)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3.) Another OLDER FC SAN with 2 older HP Hosts with FC
cards. (old VMWare environment)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4.) I have an existing oVirt 3.5 DR cluster with two hosts
and NFS storage that is current in use and works well.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Each of the above SAN's will only have FC ports to connect
to their existing hosts, so all hosts won't be connected to
all SAN's. All hosts would be the same Centos 7.x release etc.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>All existing VM's are going to be moved to the option 1 via
a baremetal restore from backup onto a NEW oVirt platform.
Once installed I'd then like to re-commission 2 and 3 above to
make use of the old hardware and SAN's as secondary or
possibly a "new" DR platform to replace or improve on option
4.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bearing in mind the older hardware will be different CPU
generations, would it be best to add the older hosts and SAN's
as new clusters within the same NEW oVirt installation? Or
should I rather just keep 2, 3 and 4 as separate oVirt
installations?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know in the past live migration wouldn't work with
different CPU generations, and of course my SAN's won't be
physically connected to each of the hosts.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In order to move VM's between 1, 2 and 3 would I need to
shut the VM down and export and import, or is there another
way to do this? </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Could LSM work between across all three SANS and hosts?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know I can do a baremetal restore from backup directly
onto either 1, 2 or 3 if needed, but I'd like to try tie all
of this into one platform if there is good reason to do so.
Any thoughts, suggestions or ideas here?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any guidance is greatly appreciated.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thank you</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Neil Wilson.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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</div>
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Fernando Frediani <
fernando.frediani(a)upx.com.br> wrote:
One of the things I don't like very much in oVirt is the LVM on
Shared
Block storage, but unfortunately there are no other options. One day
perhaps a VMFS5 equivalent will come up somewhere.
For some use cases, direct LUN is a great solution.
I would avoid it and put a server in between the SAN and the oVirt Nodes
and use NFS in order to abstract it, that would give you more flexibility
and keep you away from LVM. But in your case if you don't have 10GbE
interfaces you will loose on performance using 1GbE interfaces.
Even 10g would be difficult to compete with (what I assume is usually) 2x8G
FC ports, in term of performance. Some kind of bond will be needed to
provide the same level of redundancy - and still the NFS server would be a
single point of failure.
With regards the migration of VMs between different CPU families I'm not
sure what is the tolerance of oVirt with it. Depending on the CPUs and the
cluster types you may be able to do migrations.So I would keep different
CPU families in different clusters.
Note that you can detach and attach complete storage domains (assuming you
moved the LUNs via some other means - like SAN replication), and not
import-export single VMs. This has of course its cons and pros.
Y.
Fernando
Em 15/07/2016 07:07, Neil escreveu:
Hi guys,
I'm soon going to have the following equipment and I'd like to find the
best way to utilise it....
1.) One NEW FC SAN, and 3 new Dell Hosts with FC cards.
2.) One OLD FC SAN with 2 older HP hosts with FC cards. (old VMWare
environment)
3.) Another OLDER FC SAN with 2 older HP Hosts with FC cards. (old VMWare
environment)
4.) I have an existing oVirt 3.5 DR cluster with two hosts and NFS storage
that is current in use and works well.
Each of the above SAN's will only have FC ports to connect to their
existing hosts, so all hosts won't be connected to all SAN's. All hosts
would be the same Centos 7.x release etc.
All existing VM's are going to be moved to the option 1 via a baremetal
restore from backup onto a NEW oVirt platform. Once installed I'd then like
to re-commission 2 and 3 above to make use of the old hardware and SAN's as
secondary or possibly a "new" DR platform to replace or improve on option 4.
Bearing in mind the older hardware will be different CPU generations,
would it be best to add the older hosts and SAN's as new clusters within
the same NEW oVirt installation? Or should I rather just keep 2, 3 and 4 as
separate oVirt installations?
I know in the past live migration wouldn't work with different CPU
generations, and of course my SAN's won't be physically connected to each
of the hosts.
In order to move VM's between 1, 2 and 3 would I need to shut the VM down
and export and import, or is there another way to do this?
Could LSM work between across all three SANS and hosts?
I know I can do a baremetal restore from backup directly onto either 1, 2
or 3 if needed, but I'd like to try tie all of this into one platform if
there is good reason to do so. Any thoughts, suggestions or ideas here?
Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Regards.
Neil Wilson.
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