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From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf
Of Rick Beldin
Sent: Dienstag, 8. Januar 2013 15:54
To: Itamar Heim
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] What do you want to see in oVirt next?
On Tue 08 Jan 2013 04:41:01 AM EST, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 01/07/2013 06:11 PM, Rick Beldin wrote:
>> - cleaner work-flow in creating and associating storage, especially
>> NFS
>>
Some of this is no doubt my newbie-ness to ovirt. Most of my comments
below have to do with the manager.
I started playing with RHEV 3.1 since I am responsible for delivering support
on it but just yesterday started playing with Fedora 17 and all-in-one for ease
of setup. I will try and document the specifics, but the things I recall were
things like:
- inability to setup NFS storage on the cluster until I had added a host. I think
I missed some key concept here, but my feeling was that I
would/could/should
setup the manager (engine) first and then add virtual hosts.
Instead, there
seems to be a procedural step.
- along those lines the UI could do more to guide a user, a first-time wizard
that would guide you through cluster and datacenter setups that are
independent
of the hosts. Guide Me is a good start, but perhaps it needs some
expansion.
>> - better error reporting from engine back to admin user during admin
>> operations.
>
- here's an example. Just installed AIO on Fedora 17. After going through
everything, it says 'Install Failed'. The Event entry has a
correlation id,
which can be used to figure out what went wrong. (I guess). It seems like
there could be more information provided to the admin on what to do next
aside
install again? Tooltip on what to do with correlation id?
Whenever you report a problem here in the list, you get asked for engine and vdsm logs.
So, these logs are essential and a way to access (at least the relevant parts) via the GUI
would be perfect. Ideally, every task should have a unique ID and this ID should show up
in the engine logs as well as the vdsm logs on the nodes in a way that they could easily
filtered.
My dream would be a message like "Install failed" as a clickable link which then
opens a log viewer and shows the engine log filtered by this ID as well as the vdsm log
from the involved node filtered by this ID.
Oddly,
I can't
right click on Event text to bring up copy/paste menu with Chrome or FF.
Ctrl-c
worked with Chrome but not FF:
Host local_host installation failed. The required action is taking longer than
allowed by configuration. Verify host networking and storage settings..
That gives you a clue, but then what? A handy pointer to the log file would
be good.
- Eons ago, in another product space, a complex product with hooks into
networking
and whatnot had a tiny diagnostic script that would attempt to emulate the
requirements of the product. Perhaps that is needed here - something
outside
of the framework that could be a checklist of ports not open, permissions,
etc.
Things that an admin needs to address outside of engine.
- A menu item that would call the sosreport-like thing to collect data would
aid
in supportability.
- A meta-page with pointers/contents to all logs, databases and so forth
would
be helpful. There is a lot of content scattered over the disk.
- A meta-page with a listing of critical processes.
Some of these things are doubtless outside the scope of abstraction that is
currently there, but the manager is the connection between the admin and
the hosts. As a critical resource the admin will likely not only be the one
administering to guests, but to the engine as well. Making that
person's
life easier will aid in acceptance and reduce long-term support costs.
My 2cents...
Rick
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