Sure. I agree. I'd be happy to show you the results in the profiler, so we can make a
correct decision.
On Jun 30, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote:
On 06/30/2013 01:15 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote:
> On 06/30/2013 01:08 PM, Liran Zelkha wrote:
>> Why synchronization? No need for it. Worst case scenario a put (which should be
much less common then get) will occur twice on the same key.
>
> why assuming a best & not worst scenario? don't forget that every new
insertion requires collision resolution
> which is triggers .equals() on the GUID.
Liran, don't get me wrong, i'm not against the caching in general, obviously
reads > writes so
actually i'm all with you, just we're going to significantly enlarge a memory
footprint so i just want
to make sure we're on a right track for the worst scenario where engine runs for ages
and hashmap reaches
it's load factor.
>
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/30/2013 12:45 PM, Liran Zelkha wrote:
>>>> All is true. But average UUID.fromString execution is 1675us, and
HashMap.put is 78us - so the benefit is clear when we're talking on >100K
executions for 10minutes...
>>>
>>> even with synchronization? what about ConcurrentHashMap?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Michael Pasternak
<mpastern(a)redhat.com <mailto:mpastern@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/30/2013 12:20 PM, Liran Zelkha wrote:
>>>>> I checked such a solution using JProfiler. Creating the GUID object
takes much more CPU cycles that checking the string in the Map.
>>>>
>>>> of course it is, but what is the size of map that you checked?, check
on worst scenario, i.e map
>>>> is full of all possible guids,
>>>>
>>>> also problem a bit different,java map has a load factor (which is
usually 0.75),
>>>> when ratio increases beyond the load factor, occurs proses called
re-hash so that the hash
>>>> table will double amount of buckets. what can produce a cpu spikes
(though it should not happen too often),
>>>> to avoid this the initial capacity should be greater than the maximum
number of entries / the
>>>> load factor, and this is a huge map....
>>>>
>>>> so basically this is a tradeoff between time and space costs against
the new guid generation.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/30/2013 11:37 AM, Liran Zelkha wrote:
>>>>>>> Great news.
>>>>>>> Allon - please note that GUID is being recreated from String
by both DB calls and by data received from VDSM. It is VERY useful to cache Guid
String-->Guid, and not
>>>> just Empty GUID.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, as the Guid class runs in GWT as well, you can't
use Infinispan and you're limited in the HashMap implementations you can use.
>>>>>>> Personally, I don't think it's a memory leak, as GUID
number in the system are finite and not too large.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's large, it's 128-bit random number, it's not
about memory leaking, but cpu cost,
>>>>>> as you'll face a lot of rehash'ings in the map,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm not even sure that using indexing in the map can help,
worth checking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think? Want to add it to your patch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well done, should have been done ages ago :)
>>>>>>>> Now, for the painful rebase of async_task_mgr changes :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Allon Mureinik"
<amureini(a)redhat.com <mailto:amureini@redhat.com>>
>>>>>>>>> To: "engine-devel"
<engine-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:engine-devel@ovirt.org>>, "Barak
Azulay" <bazulay(a)redhat.com <mailto:bazulay@redhat.com>>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky"
<yzaslavs(a)redhat.com <mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com>>, "Michael
Pasternak" <mpastern(a)redhat.com <mailto:mpastern@redhat.com>>, "Tal
Nisan"
>>>>>>>>> <tnisan(a)redhat.com
<mailto:tnisan@redhat.com>>, "Ayal Baron" <abaron(a)redhat.com
<mailto:abaron@redhat.com>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:11:30 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Guid improvements
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just merged a couple of improvements to the [N]Guid
class [1] to improve
>>>>>>>>> it's performance both CPU-wise and memory-wise,
based on a set of benchmarks
>>>>>>>>> presented by Liran.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What this patchset achieves:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Clean up the code, so it's easier to
understand and use
>>>>>>>>> 2. Eliminate the inflation in the memory foot print
caused by the getValue()
>>>>>>>>> method
>>>>>>>>> 3. Eliminate all the heavy calls to UUID.fromString
when creating a new/empty
>>>>>>>>> Guid instance as a default value
>>>>>>>>> 4. Note that the cleanups proposed in (1) will have
minor performance
>>>>>>>>> benefits (e.g., eliminating useless conditional
statements), but I doubt
>>>>>>>>> this would be anything to write home about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From a developer's perspective, here's what
changed:
>>>>>>>>> 1. No more NGuid, just Guid. Both static methods to
create a Guid from String
>>>>>>>>> still exist, and are named createGuidFromString and
>>>>>>>>> createGuidFromStringDefaultEmpty.
>>>>>>>>> 2. [N]Guid.getValue() was removed, it's no longer
needed after (1) was
>>>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>>>> 3. The Guid() constructor was made private, as it
forced a redundant call to
>>>>>>>>> UUID.fromString(String). If you need an empty Guid
instance, just use
>>>>>>>>> Guid.Empty
>>>>>>>>> 4. The Guid.EMPTY_GUID_VALUE string constant was
removed, as it was used for
>>>>>>>>> redundant calls to UUID.fromString. If you really,
REALLY, need it, just
>>>>>>>>> call Guid.Empty.getValue() for a UUID or
Guid.Empty.toString() for a String.
>>>>>>>>> 5. All sorts of ways to transform Strings to Guids
were removed. If you have
>>>>>>>>> a literal you trust, just use new Guid(String). If
you suspect it may be
>>>>>>>>> null, use Guid.createGuidFromString[DefaultEmpty]
>>>>>>>>> 6. NewGuid is now called newGuid. We're in Java,
not C# :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks to everyone who reviewed this patchset.
>>>>>>>>> You guys rock!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Allon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/q/project:ovirt-engine+branch:master+topic:guid...
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Pasternak
>>>>>> RedHat, ENG-Virtualization R&D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Michael Pasternak
>>>> RedHat, ENG-Virtualization R&D
>>>>
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>>> Michael Pasternak
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