December 2014 - Users - Ovirt List Archives

by mad Engineer

Hello All, I am using NFS as shared storage and is working fine,able to migrate instances across nodes. Is it possible to use iscsi backend and achieve the same,a shared iscsi[i am not able to find a way to do a shared iscsi across hosts] can some one help with a shared iscsi storage for live migration of vm across hosts Thanks

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Seperate ovirt-user-portal

by Demeter Tibor

------=_Part_1673666_1102566962.1417690140159 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to add access the ovirt-user-portal webui for external users. Could I seperate this from ovirt-portal-server? I just wondering, maybe that is a possible way if I create an virtual machine for user-portal with external IP address and the users could connect to them. I don't want to add access to the whole portal server directly. Is it possible? Thanks in advance, Tibor ------=_Part_1673666_1102566962.1417690140159 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to add access the ovirt-user-portal webui for external users.</div><div>Could I seperate this from ovirt-portal-server? </div><div>I just wondering, maybe that is a possible way if I create an virtual machine for user-portal with external IP address and the users could connect to them.</div><div>I don't want to add access to the whole portal server directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Is it possible?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div><br></div><div>Tibor</div><div><br></div></div></body></html> ------=_Part_1673666_1102566962.1417690140159--

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[QE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 status

by Sandro Bonazzola

Hi, Release criteria discussion has been closed with last week oVirt sync meeting [1]. Release management for 3.6.0 [2] will soon be updated with the accepted changes in release criteria. The remaining key milestones for this release must now be scheduled. For reference, external project schedules we're tracking are: Fedora 21: 2014-12-09 Fedora 22: 2015-XX-XX GlusterFS 3.7: 2015-04-29 OpenStack Kilo: 2015-04-30 Two different proposals have been made about above scheduling [3]: 1) extend the cycle to 10 months for allowing to include a large feature set 2) reduce the cycle to less than 6 months and split features over 3.6 and 3.7 Feature proposed for 3.6.0 must now be collected in the 3.6 Google doc [4] and reviewed by maintainers. The tracker bug for 3.6.0 [5] currently shows no blockers. There are 453 bugs [6] targeted to 3.6.0. Excluding node and documentation bugs we have 430 bugs [7] targeted to 3.6.0. [1] http://resources.ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2014/ovirt.2014-11-26-15.07.log... [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.6_Release_Management [3] http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-November/028875.html [4] http://goo.gl/9X3G49 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1155425 [6] http://goo.gl/zwkF3r [7] http://goo.gl/ZbUiMc -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

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Re: [ovirt-users] Backup solution using the API

by Liron Aravot

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Keppler (PEBA)" <thomas.keppler(a)kit.edu> > To: "Liron Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 12:01:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup solution using the API > > The Export Phase. > There's no export phase, you create a snapshot and then you backup the data present to the time of the snapshot. > -- > Best regards > Thomas Keppler > > > Am 04.12.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Liron Aravot <laravot(a)redhat.com>: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Thomas Keppler (PEBA)" <thomas.keppler(a)kit.edu> > >> To: "Liron Aravot" <laravot(a)redhat.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 11:41:13 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup solution using the API > >> > >> This it requires you to halt the vm, therefore it's not usable for us. > > What phase requires to halt the vm? > >> -- > >> Best regards > >> Thomas Keppler > >> > >>> Am 04.12.2014 um 08:51 schrieb Liron Aravot <laravot(a)redhat.com>: > >>> > >>> Hi Thomas/plysan > >>> oVirt has the Backup/Restore api designated to provide the capabilities > >>> to > >>> backup/restore a vm. > >>> see here: > >>> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Backup-Restore_API_Integration > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "plysan" <plysab(a)gmail.com> > >>>> To: "Thomas Keppler (PEBA)" <thomas.keppler(a)kit.edu> > >>>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 3:51:24 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Backup solution using the API > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> For the live-backup, i think you can make a live snapshot of the vm, and > >>>> then > >>>> clone a new vm from that snapshot, after that you can do export. > >>>> > >>>> 2014-11-27 23:12 GMT+08:00 Keppler, Thomas (PEBA) < > >>>> thomas.keppler(a)kit.edu > >>>> : > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> now that our oVirt Cluster runs great, I'd like to know if anybody has > >>>> done a > >>>> backup solution for oVirt before. > >>>> > >>>> My basic idea goes as follows: > >>>> - Create a JSON file with machine's preferences for later restore, > >>>> create > >>>> a > >>>> snapshot, snatch the disk by its disk-id (copy it to the fileserver), > >>>> then > >>>> deleting the snapshot and be done with it. > >>>> - On restore I'd just create a new VM with the Disks and NICs specified > >>>> in > >>>> the preferences; then I'd go ahead and and put back the disk... t > >>>> > >>>> I've played a little bit around with building a JSON file and so far it > >>>> works > >>>> great; I haven't tried to make a VM with that, though... > >>>> > >>>> Using the export domain or a simple export command is not what I want > >>>> since > >>>> you'd have to turn off the machine to do that - AFAIK. Correct me if > >>>> that > >>>> should not be true. > >>>> > >>>> Now, before I go into any more hassle, has somebody else of you done a > >>>> live-backup solution for oVirt? Are there any recommendations? Thanks > >>>> for > >>>> any help provided! > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> Thomas Keppler > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Users mailing list > >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Users mailing list > >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> >

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How to stick VM to hosts?

by Arman Khalatyan

Hello, I have 2 VMs with the negative Affinity. I am looking some way to force the VMs running on different selected hosts. Assuming I have hosts c1-c8: Can I tell VM to run on c1-c8 but not c2 and c4? Thanks, Arman. *********************************************************** Dr. Arman Khalatyan eScience -SuperComputing Leibniz-Institut für Astrophysik Potsdam (AIP) An der Sternwarte 16, 14482 Potsdam, Germany ***********************************************************

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Storage domain issue

by Koen Vanoppen

Dear All, After we updated our hypervisors to : vdsm-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.x86_64 vdsm-python-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch vdsm-python-zombiereaper-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch vdsm-xmlrpc-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch vdsm-yajsonrpc-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch vdsm-jsonrpc-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch vdsm-cli-4.16.7-1.gitdb83943.el6.noarch We don't have access to our storage domain anymore. He jsut doesn't see the disks anymore... I added the vdsm log and engine log. I'm clueless... BEfore he did see the storage domains, now after the system update he doesn't anymore... Thanks in advance, Kind regards, Koen

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Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt-guest-agent on windows : what Python env. needed?

by Lev Veyde

Hi Nicolas, If the agent is compiled with py2exe (and as you got .exe files it means it was compiled with py2exe) then the executables are self contained, and you don't need to install Python separately in each VM. All you need is to download and install VC runtime, which you can download from here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5582 That should resolve the issue. BTW, we have oVirt WGT (Windows Guest Tools) RPM, with ISO which contains the installer that will install the oVirt Guest Agent (including VC Runtime), as well as drivers etc. automatically for you. Thanks in advance, Lev Veyde. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo(a)redhat.com> To: "Lev Veyde" <lveyde(a)redhat.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:49:00 PM Subject: Fwd: [ovirt-users] ovirt-guest-agent on windows : what Python env. needed? -------- Messaggio Inoltrato -------- Oggetto: [ovirt-users] ovirt-guest-agent on windows : what Python env. needed? Data: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:49:06 +0100 Mittente: Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net> Organizzazione: Si peu... A: Users(a)ovirt.org <Users(a)ovirt.org> Hello, I read the following page : http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Guest_Agent_For_Windows and applied it on a server, and it ran very well. I obtained the two executables, copied them into "program files" according to the doc, along with the .ini as stated here : https://www.mail-archive.com/users@ovirt.org/msg18561.html - the "-install", the start, and the enabling went fine - rebooting the server runs OK too, and the agent is seen by oVirt What I don't understand is the following sentence of https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-guest-agent/blob/master/ovirt-guest-agent/... "Optionally install py2exe if you want to build an executable file which doesn't require Python installation for running" As I don't know python at all, I thought this was building some sort of "self-executable" binary that I could copy-paste into another VM, and do the same install/enable/run. And WITHOUT installing any Python environnement. I'm sorry for such a weak question, but if this is not the case, does that mean I have to install a Pyhton env on each of my windows VMs? BTW, I tried to copy-paste the programfiles/guestagent... into another server, and when running the install, it gives a message [in french, :( ] L'application n'a pas pu démarrer car sa configuration côte-à-côte est incorrecte. That could be translated by : The application could not start because its side-by-side (?) config is incorrect. PS : Time is not anymore at launching windows_vs_linux war, but I just installed the guest agent on 17 _linux_ VMs in 3 minutes... -- Nicolas Ecarnot _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Re: [ovirt-users] Hypervisor won't assign default gateway

by Aslam, Usman

--_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174F881SSVMEXDAG01MB02_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've worked around this issue by Flipping the DEFROUTE parameter on both vlans AND Adding "net_persistence =3D ifcfg" to "/etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf" I'm sure this isn't ideal but it works. If I update configuration using the= web UI, it requires me to manually edit and flip the DEFROUTE argument aga= in. Is there a way to control how this flag is setup? Thanks, Usman From: Aslam, Usman Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:44 PM To: 'users(a)ovirt.org' Subject: Hypervisor won't assign default gateway I have a couple of bonded nics with two bridged vlans. Ovirtmgmt and Primar= y. Primary vlan also has a gateway setup (all using the ovirt UI). The gatewa= y shows up in the ifcfg file and I've added it to /etc/sysconfig/network as= well. Problem: Upon a reboot the default gateway does not show up (route -n) One thing did notice is that VDSM is inserting DEFROUTE=3Dno in ifcfg-primary And DEFROUTE=3Dyes in ifcfg-ovirtmgmt If is issue the "route add default gateway x.x.x.x" command, it starts work= ing as expected and the default route also shows up (route -n) Any ideas? Thanks, Usman --_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174F881SSVMEXDAG01MB02_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I’ve worked arou= nd this issue by<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Flipping the DEFROUTE = parameter on both vlans<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">AND<o:p></o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adding “net_pers= istence =3D ifcfg” to “/etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf”<o:p></o:p></s= pan></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I’m sure this is= n’t ideal but it works. If I update configuration using the web UI, i= t requires me to manually edit and flip the DEFROUTE argument again.<o:p></= o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Is there a way to cont= rol how this flag is setup?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></sp= an></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Usman<o:p></o:p></span= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot= ;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s= ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Aslam, U= sman <br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:44 PM<br> <b>To:</b> 'users(a)ovirt.org'<br> <b>Subject:</b> Hypervisor won't assign default gateway<o:p></o:p></span></= p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a couple of bonded nics with two bridged vlan= s. Ovirtmgmt and Primary.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Primary vlan also  has a gateway setup (all usi= ng the ovirt UI). The gateway shows up in the ifcfg file and I’ve add= ed it to /etc/sysconfig/network as well.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Problem: Upon a reboot the default gateway does not = show up (route -n)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">One thing did notice is that VDSM is inserting <o:p>= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">DEFROUTE=3Dno      &nb= sp;           in ifcfg-pr= imary<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">And <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">DEFROUTE=3Dyes      &n= bsp;          in ifcfg-ovirtmg= mt<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If is issue the “route add default gateway x.x= .x.x” command, it starts working as expected and the default route al= so shows up (route -n)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Usman<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174F881SSVMEXDAG01MB02_--

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Hypervisor won't assign default gateway

by Aslam, Usman

--_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174E155SSVMEXDAG01MB02_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a couple of bonded nics with two bridged vlans. Ovirtmgmt and Primar= y. Primary vlan also has a gateway setup (all using the ovirt UI). The gatewa= y shows up in the ifcfg file and I've added it to /etc/sysconfig/network as= well. Problem: Upon a reboot the default gateway does not show up (route -n) One thing did notice is that VDSM is inserting DEFROUTE=3Dno in ifcfg-primary And DEFROUTE=3Dyes in ifcfg-ovirtmgmt If is issue the "route add default gateway x.x.x.x" command, it starts work= ing as expected and the default route also shows up (route -n) Any ideas? Thanks, Usman --_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174E155SSVMEXDAG01MB02_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a couple of bonded nics with two bridged vlan= s. Ovirtmgmt and Primary.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Primary vlan also  has a gateway setup (all usi= ng the ovirt UI). The gateway shows up in the ifcfg file and I’ve add= ed it to /etc/sysconfig/network as well.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Problem: Upon a reboot the default gateway does not = show up (route -n)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">One thing did notice is that VDSM is inserting <o:p>= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">DEFROUTE=3Dno      &nb= sp;           in ifcfg-pr= imary<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">And <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">DEFROUTE=3Dyes      &n= bsp;          in ifcfg-ovirtmg= mt<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If is issue the “route add default gateway x.x= .x.x” command, it starts working as expected and the default route al= so shows up (route -n)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any ideas?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Usman<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_EAAAA4A70A749B408A0B58DBB90543531174E155SSVMEXDAG01MB02_--

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Re: [ovirt-users] [ovirt-devel] hosted-engine setup/migration features for 3.6

by Yedidyah Bar David

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Doolittle" <bob(a)doolittle.us.com> > To: "Yedidyah Bar David" <didi(a)redhat.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 2:50:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] hosted-engine setup/migration features for 3.6 > > Another issue with that page is that it assumes a remote database. I am not > sure what percentage of cases have remote databases but clearly many > (most?) do not, since that's not default behavior. I agree. > So that page definitely > needs attention. See: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099995 Indeed. Note that this isn't specific to hosted-engine, it's the same for any migration using engine-backup to backup/restore, therefore there is a link to its page in the top, where this is more detailed. We also have a bug [3] to automate this. [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064503 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099998 > > Some of us have wanted to disable global maintenance upon bootup by adding > a systemd service on Fedora 20 (since you must enable global maintenance to > shut it down cleanly), and have found it impossible to create the necessary > systemd dependencies. It seems that (at least with 3.4) hosted-engine > --set-maintenance --mode=none will return an error for several seconds > after all other services have started and it's not clear what can be waited > upon in order to issue the command with assurance it will complete > successfully. This isn't strictly a setup/migration issue but it is an > issue with setting up a desired configuration with hosted-engine. The way > to reproduce this is simply to wait until gdm-greeter displays the login > prompt, ssh into the system and execute hosted-engine --set-maintenance > --mode=none and observe the error. Or create a systemd service that depends > upon (waits for) the latest-possible service, try executing the command > there, and observe the error. Ideally there would be some external > observable event which a systemd service could depend upon, when > hosted-engine is ready to do its thing. Adding Jiri for that. Do you have an open bug? Thanks, > > Regards, > Bob > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Yedidyah Bar David <didi(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > We already have quite a lot of open ovirt-hosted-engine-setup bugs for 3.6 > > [1]. > > > > Yesterday I tried helping someone on irc who planned to migrate to > > hosted-engine > > manually, and without knowing (so it seems) that such a feature exists. He > > had > > an engine set up on a physical host, prepared a VM for it, and asked about > > migrating > > the engine to the VM. In principle this works, but the final result will > > be a > > hosted-engine, where the engine manages a VM the runs itself, without > > knowing it, > > and without HA. > > > > The current recommended migration flow is described in [2]. This page is > > perhaps > > a bit outdated, perhaps missing some details etc., but principally works. > > The main > > issue with it, AFAICT after discussing this a bit with few people, is that > > it > > requires a new clean host. > > > > I'd like to hear what people here think about such and similar flows. > > > > If you already had an engine and migrated to hosted-engine, what was good, > > what > > was bad, what would you like to change? > > > > If you plan such a migration, what do you find missing currently? > > > > [1] http://red.ht/1vle8Vv > > [2] http://www.ovirt.org/Migrate_to_Hosted_Engine > > > > Best, > > -- > > Didi > > _______________________________________________ > > Devel mailing list > > Devel(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > -- Didi

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