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Looking for Commercial assistance setting up small ovirt cluster
by Matthew Darnell 17 Mar '18

17 Mar '18

Aloha, We are going to be moving from Xen to ovirt and would like to contract someone to help setup the new cluster and migrate from Xen. We are looking at 3 ovirt hosts and Ceph for the redundant storage but would be willing to listen to other proposals. If you are interested in talking more, email mdarnell at comtel dot cloud or reply to this thread. Mahalo. Matt

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error adding second host on 4.2.1
by Juan Pablo 17 Mar '18

17 Mar '18

Hi, Im having a strange situation with 4.2.1.7.el7, Im always getting " Failed Adding new Host node03 to Cluster Default " after adding a second host to the cluster. I tried re installing both nodes and hosted engine, just in case there's something wrong with the initial config, so starting from zero Im getting the same result. Im currently running centos7.4 on both hosts, fully updated; hosted engine storage is nfs, reachable and mountable by both hosts, iscsi for the VM's infra. each host has 3 interfaces: eno1-- not used eno2-- ovirtmgmt bridge (+vlans) enp3s0f0 -10GBe to iscsi storage (disabled for troubleshooting purpose) enp3s0f1 -10GBe to iscsi storage (in use) all the interfaces are reachable and pingable. any hint? Im attaching the deploy log. thanks! JP

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ovirt node pxe and thinpool errror in status
by Gianluca Cecchi 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

Hello, I'm experimenting to install ovirt ng node 4.2 via pxe and it seems all went ok. Only problem I have is that opening terminal session I get this traceback that seems related to thinpool Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 162, in _run_module_as_main "__main__", fname, loader, pkg_name) File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/runpy.py", line 72, in _run_code exec code in run_globals File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nodectl/__main__.py", line 42, in <module> CliApplication() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nodectl/__init__.py", line 200, in CliApplication return cmdmap.command(args) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nodectl/__init__.py", line 118, in command return self.commands[command](**kwargs) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nodectl/__init__.py", line 101, in motd Motd(Status(Health(self.imgbased).status(), File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/imgbased/plugins/core.py", line 358, in status status.results.append(group().run()) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/imgbased/plugins/core.py", line 385, in check_thin pool = self.app.imgbase._thinpool() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/imgbased/imgbase.py", line 120, in _thinpool return LVM.Thinpool.from_tag(self.thinpool_tag) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/imgbased/lvm.py", line 191, in from_tag assert len(lvs) == 1 AssertionError Admin Console: https://192.168.122.196:9090/ [root@localhost ~]# Current disk layout is [root@localhost ~]# fdisk -l /dev/vda Disk /dev/vda: 53.7 GB, 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk label type: dos Disk identifier: 0x000a3595 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/vda1 * 2048 2099199 1048576 83 Linux /dev/vda2 2099200 104857599 51379200 8e Linux LVM [root@localhost ~]# pvs PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/vda2 centos lvm2 a-- <49.00g 9.80g [root@localhost ~]# vgs VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree centos 1 3 0 wz--n- <49.00g 9.80g [root@localhost ~]# lvs LV VG Attr LSize Pool Origin Data% Meta% Move Log Cpy%Sync Convert pool00 centos twi-aotz-- <34.16g 10.28 9.18 root centos Vwi-aotz-- <34.16g pool00 10.28 swap centos -wi-ao---- 5.00g [root@localhost ~]# Any hint? I installed from 4.2 iso and then applied the ovirt-node-ng-image-update-4.2.1.1-1.el7.centos.noarch yum update The problem remains At the moment it is not linked with any engine, also installed. I can go to the Admin Console web page and I see, clicking inside "Virtualization" left tab, that on the right dashboard I have a yellow triangle to the right of the "Health" word... But I don't exactly understand the source of the warning... Thanks for any hint related, Gianluca

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dns vm and ovirt
by Nathanaël Blanchet 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

Hi all, I'd need some piece of good practice about dealing a DNS server in or out of ovirt. Until now we never wanted to integrate the DNS vm into ovirt because of the strong dependency. if the DNS server fails for any reason, it becomes difficult ot join the webadmin (except with a static etc hosts) and the nodes may become unvailable if they had been configured with fqdn. We could consider a DNS failover setup, but in a self hosted engine setup (and more globally an hyperconverged setup) , it doesn't make sense of setting up a stand alone DNS vm outside of ovirt. So what about imitating engine vm status in a hosted engine setup? Is there a way to install the DNS vm outside of ovirt but on the ovirt host (and why not in a HA mode)? Second option could be installing the named service on the hosted engine vm? Any suggestion or return of experience would be much appreciated. -- Nathanaël Blanchet Supervision réseau Pôle Infrastrutures Informatiques 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 Tél. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet(a)abes.fr

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Setting up a LDAP conf
by Jose Fernandes 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

--_000_209153e2c13f470483d0faab7189aa2alocawebcombr_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have an OpenDJ LDAP server, and I need some help to do query on a specifi= c filter search. We can't figure out how to create a "aaa/profile1.properties" file with the= se configs. This is how we can filter the users with ldapsearch on our ldap server: -H ldaps://server:port -D uid=3Duser,ou=3DOU,dc=3DSERVER,dc=3Dcom,dc=3Dbr -= W -b ou=3Daa,dc=3Dbb,dc=3Dcc,dc=3Ddd uid=3Djose.fernandes - My configuration does not permit I search the users on base, so I need t= o do this filter on "ou=3Daa,dc=3Dbb,dc=3Dcc,dc=3Ddd" - Port is different from common. Someone can help me to create the config file? Regards, Jos=E9 Fernandes --_000_209153e2c13f470483d0faab7189aa2alocawebcombr_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style type=3D"text/css" style=3D"display:none;"></style> </head> <body dir=3D"ltr"> <div id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font= -family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;" dir=3D"ltr"> Hello, I have an OpenDJ LDAP server, and I need some help to do query on a spec= ific filter search. We can't figure out how to create a "= aaa/profile1.properties" file with these configs. <div> </div> This is how we can filter the users wit= h ldapsearch on our ldap server: -H ldaps://server:port<span= style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"> -D uid=3Duser,ou=3DOU,dc=3D<s= pan style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">SERV= ER,dc=3Dcom,dc=3Dbr -W -b ou=3Daa,dc=3Dbb,dc=3Dcc,dc=3Ddd uid=3Djose.fernandes  - My configuration does not permit I search the users on base, = so I need to do this filter on "ou=3Daa,dc=3Dbb,dc=3Dcc,dc=3Ddd"<= /span>  - Port is different from common. Someone can help me to create the confi= g file? Regards, Jos=E9 Fernandes </div> </body> </html> --_000_209153e2c13f470483d0faab7189aa2alocawebcombr_--

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Quick question about oVirt 3.6 and vdsm log in DEBUG mode (apprently by default??)
by Christopher Cox 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

We're running oVirt 3.6 on 9 Dell Blades but with just two fairly fat fabrics, one for LAN stuff, ovirtmgmt and one for iSCSI to the storage domains. 15 VM Storage Domains iSCSI has 4 paths going through a 40Gbit i/o blade to switch 115 VMs or thereabouts 9 VLANS, sharing an i/o blade with ovirtmgmt 40Gbit to switch 500+ virtual disks What we are seeing more and more is that if we do an operation like expose a new LUN and configure a new storage domain, that all of the hyervisors go "red triangle" and "Connecting..." and it takes a very long time (all day) to straighten out. My guess is that there's too much to look at vdsm wise and so it's waiting a short(er) period of time for a completed response than what vdsm is going to us, and it just cycles over and over until it just happens to work. I'm thinking that vdsm having DEBUG enabled isn't helping the latency, but as far as I know it came this way be default. Can we safely disable DEBUG on the hypervisor hosts for vdsm? Can we do this while things are roughly in a steady state? Remember, just doing the moves could throw everything into vdsm la-la-land (actually, that might not be true, might take a new storage thing to do that). Just thinking out loud... can we safely turn off DEBUG logging on the vdsms? Can we do this "live" through bouncing of the vdsm if everything is "steady state"? Do you think this might help the problems we're having with storage operations? (I can see all the blades logging in iSCSI wise, but ovirt engine does the whole red triangle connecting thing, for many, many, many hours). Thanks, Christopher

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Hosted-Engine Agent broken
by Sven Achtelik 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

--_000_94c8a2d4a7c347269b1e642ba1690946epsaero_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, after upgrading my engine to 4.2 and upgrading my hosts to the latest vers= ions the HA for the hosted engine is not working anymore. The Agent fails w= ith the following errors. Did I miss anything while upgrading ? The Engine = is still running - what would be the correct approach to get the HA service= s up and running ? ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_engine_ha.agent.agent.Agent ERROR Traceback (mo= st recent call last): Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/agent/agent.py",= line 191, in _run_agent r= eturn action(he) Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/agent/agent.py",= line 64, in action_proper r= eturn he.start_monitoring() Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/agent/hosted_eng= ine.py", line 421, in start_monitoring s= elf._config.refresh_vm_conf() Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/env/config.py", = line 496, in refresh_vm_conf c= ontent_from_ovf =3D self._get_vm_conf_content_from_ovf_store() Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/env/config.py", = line 438, in _get_vm_conf_content_from_ovf_store c= onf =3D ovf2VmParams.confFromOvf(heovf) Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/lib/ovf/ovf2VmPa= rams.py", line 283, in confFromOvf v= mConf =3D toDict(ovf) Fil= e "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_hosted_engine_ha/lib/ovf/ovf2VmPa= rams.py", line 210, in toDict v= mParams['vmId'] =3D tree.find('Content/Section').attrib[OVF_NS + 'id'] Fil= e "lxml.etree.pyx", line 2272, in lxml.etree._Attrib.__getitem__ (src/lxml/= lxml.etree.c:55336) KeyEr= ror: '{http://schemas.dmtf.org/ovf/envelope/1/}id' ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_engine_ha.agent.agent.Agent ERROR Trying to res= tart agent ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_engine_ha.agent.hosted_engine.HostedEngine ERRO= R Unable to refresh vm.conf from the shared storage. Has this HE cluster co= rrectly reached 3.6 level? If anyone could give a hint on where to look at would be very helpful. Thank you, Sven --_000_94c8a2d4a7c347269b1e642ba1690946epsaero_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang=3D"DE" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> Hi All, <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> after upgrading my engine to 4.= 2 and upgrading my hosts to the latest  versions the HA for the hosted= engine is not working anymore. The Agent fails with the following errors. = Did I miss anything while upgrading ? The Engine is still running – what would be the correct approach to get = the HA services up and running ? <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_eng= ine_ha.agent.agent.Agent ERROR Traceback (most recent call last):<o:p></o:p= >      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/agent/agent.py", line 191, in _run_agent<o:p></o:p></span= >      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      return action(he)<o:p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/agent/agent.py", line 64, in action_proper<o:p></o:p></sp= an>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      return he.start_monitoring()<o:p></o:p></s= pan>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/agent/hosted_engine.py", line 421, in start_monitoring<o:= p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      self._config.refresh_vm_conf()<o:p></o:p><= /span>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;             =             &nb= sp;   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/env/config.py", line 496, in refresh_vm_conf<o:p></o:p></= span>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      content_from_ovf =3D self._get_vm_conf_con= tent_from_ovf_store()<o:p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/env/config.py", line 438, in _get_vm_conf_content_from_ov= f_store<o:p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;             =             &nb= sp;     conf =3D ovf2VmParams.confFromOvf(heovf)<o= :p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/lib/ovf/ovf2VmParams.py", line 283, in confFromOvf<o:p></= o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      vmConf =3D toDict(ovf)<o:p></o:p></= p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ovirt_host= ed_engine_ha/lib/ovf/ovf2VmParams.py", line 210, in toDict<o:p></o:p><= /span>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;      vmParams['vmId'] =3D tree.find('Content/Se= ction').attrib[OVF_NS + 'id']<o:p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;    File "lxml.etree.pyx", line 2272, in lxml.et= ree._Attrib.__getitem__ (src/lxml/lxml.etree.c:55336)<o:p></o:p>      &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;  KeyError: '{http://schemas.dmtf.org/ovf/envelope/1/}id'<o:p></o:p>= ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_eng= ine_ha.agent.agent.Agent ERROR Trying to restart agent<o:p></o:p></p= > ovirt-ha-agent ovirt_hosted_eng= ine_ha.agent.hosted_engine.HostedEngine ERROR Unable to refresh vm.conf fro= m the shared storage. Has this HE cluster correctly reached 3.6 level?<o:p>= </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If anyone could give a hint on = where to look at would be very helpful. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thank you, <o:p></o:p></= p> Sven <o:p></o:p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_94c8a2d4a7c347269b1e642ba1690946epsaero_--

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4.2.2.2-1 Starting hosted engine on all hosts
by Maton, Brett 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

The last three 4.2.2 release candidates that I've tried have been starting self hosted engine all all physical hosts at the same time. Same with the latest RC, what logs do you need to investigate the problem? Regards, Brett

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NFS 4.1 support and migration
by spfma.tech＠e.mail.fr 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

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Re: [ovirt-users] Using VDSM to edit management interface
by Kirin van der Veer 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

Ďakujem Peter, but this doesn't seem to work in my case. /etc/resolv.conf is regenerated by Network Manager after a reboot and my domain settings are lost. Your comments regarding the reliance on DNS make sense for most installations, but in my case oVirt is a secondary service that I would not expect to run unless our core infrastructure is working correctly. I'm hesitant to edit /etc/hosts directly, since that can lead to confusion when the underlying IP addresses change. For now I will hardcode the IPs of my servers. It's frustrating (and surprising) that there is not an easy way to do this. Kirin. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Peter Hudec <phudec(a)cnc.sk> wrote: > Hi Kirin, > > I suggest to do it old way and edit the /etc/resolv.conf manually. > > And one advice. Do not relay on the DNS on infrastructure servers. Use > /etc/hosts. If he DNS will not be accessible, you will have problem to > put it infrastructure up/working. As side effect the hosts allow you > to use short names to access servers. > > If you are ansible positive, you could use > > hudecof.resolv https://galaxy.ansible.com/hudecof/resolv/ > hudecof.hosts https://galaxy.ansible.com/hudecof/hosts/ > > > Peter > > On 15/03/2018 06:03, Kirin van der Veer wrote: > > Hi oVirt people, I have setup a new cluster consisting of many > > oVirt Nodes with a single dedicated oVirt Engine machine. For the > > most part things are working, however despite entering the DNS > > search domain during install on the Nodes the management interface > > is not aware of my search domain and it has not been added to > > /etc/resolv.conf (perhaps that is unnecessary?). I eventually > > worked out that the DNS search domain should be included in > > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ovirtmgmt However as per the > > header/warning, that file is generated by VDSM. I assumed that I > > should be able to edit the search domain with vdsClient, but when I > > run "vdsClient -m" I don't see any options related to network > > config. I found the following page on DNS config: > > https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/ > allowExplicitDnsConfiguration/ > > > > > But it does not seem to offer a way of specifying the DNS search domain > > (other than perhaps directly editing /etc/resolv.conf - which is > > generated/managed by Network Manager). nmcli reports that all of my > > interfaces (including ovirtmgmt) are "unmanaged". Indeed when I > > attempt to run nmtui there is nothing listed to configure. This > > should be really simple! I just want to add my local search domain > > so I can use the short name for my NFS server. I'd appreciate any > > advice. > > > > Thanks in advance, Kirin. > > > > > > . > > > > *IMPORTANT NOTE. *If you are NOT AN AUTHORISED RECIPIENT of this > > e-mail, please contact Planet Innovation Pty Ltd by return e-mail > > or by telephone on +613 9945 7510. In this case, you should not > > read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on this e-mail > > or any attachments, and should destroy all copies of them. This > > e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally > > privileged information and/or copyright material of Planet > > Innovation Pty Ltd or third parties. You should only re-transmit, > > distribute or commercialise the material if you are authorised to > > do so. Although we use virus scanning software, we deny all > > liability for viruses or alike in any message or attachment. This > > notice should not be removed. > > > > ** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > -- > *Peter Hudec* > Infraštruktúrny architekt > phudec(a)cnc.sk <mailto:phudec@cnc.sk> > > *CNC, a.s.* > Borská 6, 841 04 Bratislava > Recepcia: +421 2 35 000 100 > > Mobil:+421 905 997 203 > *www.cnc.sk* <http:///www.cnc.sk> -- *IMPORTANT NOTE. *If you are NOT AN AUTHORISED RECIPIENT of this e-mail, please contact Planet Innovation Pty Ltd by return e-mail or by telephone on +613 9945 7510. In this case, you should not read, print, re-transmit, store or act in reliance on this e-mail or any attachments, and should destroy all copies of them. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged information and/or copyright material of Planet Innovation Pty Ltd or third parties. You should only re-transmit, distribute or commercialise the material if you are authorised to do so. Although we use virus scanning software, we deny all liability for viruses or alike in any message or attachment. This notice should not be removed.

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