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[Users] Quotas
by Maurice James 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

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Re: [Users] How to setup FreeBSD 8.3 Guest on oVirt 3.3
by Dresel Christopher 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Sure already tried that - IDE, no Ethernet at all, everything related to VirtIO disabled - no success. Quoted from the forum: "It has nothing to do with the virtio driver. It is a more deeply rooted problem inside KVM in its emulation of CPU's over Intel chipsets in combination with *BSD amd64." As I already virtualized pfSense with an older Version of Intel Chipset (Sandy Bridge) with KVM and Hardware Virtualization I really think it's related to the newer Haswell chipset. The same configuration with an i386 ISO build works. Best Regards, Christopher -----Original Message----- From: René Koch [mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at] Sent: Donnerstag, 30. Jänner 2014 16:32 To: Dresel Christopher Cc: Joop; users(a)ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] How to setup FreeBSD 8.3 Guest on oVirt 3.3 On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 12:27 +0000, Dresel Christopher wrote: > The passing error seems to be a bug when using Run Once - Run behaves as expected. > > Nevertheless my problem seems related to Haswell + KVM + Hardware Virtualisation + FreeBSD (see http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/16564-PVE3-1-FreeBSD8-3-pfsense-KVM-Hardwa…) > > Possible Workarounds: Disable Hardware Virtualization (guess this is not possible on VM basis with oVirt?) or use an i386 Version of FreeBSD. > I'm pretty sure you can't disable hardware virtualization on a vm basis. Btw, does FreeBSD boot if you use an IDE disk and e1000 NIC (did go quickly through the proxmox forum thread and issues seem to be virtio related)? This will decrease performance for sure, but maybe it's sufficient. My Solaris vms are for compiling and Puppet module tests, so IDE and e1000 emulated devices are fine for me. Regards, René > Thanks for your help. > > -----Original Message----- > From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On > Behalf Of Dresel Christopher > Sent: Mittwoch, 29. Jänner 2014 21:24 > To: René Koch; Joop > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Subject: Re: [Users] How to setup FreeBSD 8.3 Guest on oVirt 3.3 > > Thank you, I already found your repo and I'm testing. > > The custom property is selectable via the GUI, the hook gets called, > but I don't know why it don’t work - it seems like the custom property > does not get passed to the hook :/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: René Koch [mailto:rkoch@linuxland.at] > Sent: Mittwoch, 29. Jänner 2014 20:51 > To: Joop; Dresel Christopher > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Subject: Re: [Users] How to setup FreeBSD 8.3 Guest on oVirt 3.3 > > On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 19:27 +0100, Joop wrote: > > Dresel Christopher <dresel(a)fhwn.ac.at> wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > > >I’m using oVirt 3.3 and trying to setup a FreeBSD 8.3 Guest machine. > > >The machine hangs after the booting screen - I already googled > > >about this, but didn’t find any helpful articles. > > > > > >Cluster uses “Intel Penryn Family“, the VM is configured with 1 > > >virtual CPU as suggested in one of the threads I found on the internet. > > You're probably looking at x2pic cpu flag problems. A vdsm hook might help. Have posted to proxmox forum about this. Also, solaris seems affected, has been discussed on this list. > > > > For Solaris I wrote a hook which can be found here (works fine for Solaris 10/11 on Intel CPUs): > https://github.com/ovido/ovirt-stuff/tree/master/hooks > > Don't know if this is needed for (older versions of) FreeBSD, too. > > > Regards, > René > > > > Joop > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Fachhochschule Wiener Neustadt für Wirtschaft und Technik Ges.m.b.H. > University of Applied Sciences Wiener Neustadt for Business and > Engineering Ltd., Austria Johannes Gutenberg-Straße 3 > 2700 Wiener Neustadt > Austria, Europe > ATU: 37772406 > Firmenbuchnummer: 77005v > Firmenbuchgericht: Landesgericht Wiener Neustadt > DVR: 0769665 > Der Inhalt dieses E-Mails ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisnahme, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieses E-Mails durch unberechtigte Dritte ist unzulaessig. 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If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > ________________________________ > > Fachhochschule Wiener Neustadt für Wirtschaft und Technik Ges.m.b.H. > University of Applied Sciences Wiener Neustadt for Business and > Engineering Ltd., Austria Johannes Gutenberg-Straße 3 > 2700 Wiener Neustadt > Austria, Europe > ATU: 37772406 > Firmenbuchnummer: 77005v > Firmenbuchgericht: Landesgericht Wiener Neustadt > DVR: 0769665 > Der Inhalt dieses E-Mails ist ausschliesslich fuer den bezeichneten Adressaten bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisnahme, Veroeffentlichung, Vervielfaeltigung oder Weitergabe des Inhalts dieses E-Mails durch unberechtigte Dritte ist unzulaessig. 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[Users] Async release for ovirt-engine-reports is now available.
by Yaniv Dary 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hello all, We have just release a new reports package for 3.3.3 that fixes a critical bug in upgrade of reports (http://gerrit.ovirt.org/23335) We recommend all existing users to update to this package. Thanks! --- Yaniv Dary BI Software Engineer Red Hat Israel Ltd. 34 Jerusalem Road Building A, 4th floor Ra'anana, Israel 43501 Tel : +972 (9) 7692306 72306 Email: ydary(a)redhat.com IRC : Yaniv D

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[Users] clearing hung task
by david van zeebroeck 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

hello i have a task that seems to be hung or anyway in an incorrect state in the gui's task pane i have one task that indicates that it is launching a vm (that no longer exists) when i expand that task it keeps on saying loading because of this when i now launch other task they don't want to expand in the task pane is there a way to clear this or get it back to a correct status?

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[Users] ELT service sampling
by Kevin Tibi 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

Hi all, since I upgraded my plateforme in 3.5, i have a error message in ovirt-engine : [image: Images intégrées 1] I don't find anything about this ELT service. thx ;) Kevin.

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[Users] Fwd: oVirt or RHEV ?
by Nathanaël Blanchet 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

------=_Part_1917943_185222171.1391852636417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Mail transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----- De: "Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" <blanchet(a)abes.fr>=20 =C3=80: "Ren=C3=A9 Koch" <rkoch(a)linuxland.at>=20 Envoy=C3=A9: Samedi 8 F=C3=A9vrier 2014 10:41:56=20 Objet: Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?=20 Hi Ren=C3=A9, thanks for your answer.=20 My first idea wasn't to redistribute a repackaging of RHEV, but to bring a = more stable build of rhev than the one from ovirt. My idea was to do the sa= me as other project such as centos or scientific linux with RHEL. Yes they = have removed all Red Hat trademarks, it seems to be a hard work. I began ye= sterday, I met a lot of dependance issues, you're right I can't waste such = a time with this kind of work alone, a collaborate work would be better, bu= t unuseful because of the ovirt project. That's why I think centos make a v= ery great job.=20 ----- Mail transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----- De: "Ren=C3=A9 Koch" <rkoch(a)linuxland.at>=20 =C3=80: "Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" <blanchet(a)abes.fr>, "Martijn Grendelman" = <martijn.grendelman(a)isaac.nl>=20 Cc: users(a)ovirt.org=20 Envoy=C3=A9: Vendredi 7 F=C3=A9vrier 2014 23:58:48=20 Objet: Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?=20 Hi Nathana=C3=ABl,=20 Imho you need a lot of manpower to make this happen.=20 You have to remove all Red Hat trademarks if you want to distribute it - th= is means remove it from RHEV-manager (engine), RHEV-H (node-image) and all = Windows tools (e.g. USB policy editor, RHEV tools,...) so you not only need= CentOS 6 build servers, but also Windows ones.=20 Next you should have to support each release for 3 years which means in 2 y= ears you maybe have to build packages for 3-6 RHEV releases - again takes a= lot of time. Even if you can automate fetching, building and testing you s= till have to test it manually, too.=20 I'm unsure if someone would do this work. Just speaking for me and the comp= any I work for - RHEV and oVirt is working fine for us, so I wouldn't see m= uch benefit of repackaging RHEV. Contributing to oVirt project with Nagios = plugins, presentations, meetups,... makes more sense for us. Again just spe= aking about us, but I think other companies think in a same way...=20 Regards,=20 Ren=C3=A9=20 On 07.02.2014 10:33, Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet wrote:=20 Hi everybody,=20 We could consider a third way : why not building RHEV from SRPMs since redh= at provides them on ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/SRPMS/ ? this ca= n be a compromise between stability of rhev and ovirt free of charge.=20 I'm surprised that nobody has got this idea before.=20 Le 06/02/2014 19:53, Ren=C3=A9 Koch a =C3=A9crit :=20 <blockquote> Hi Martijn, That's a good question and not too easy to answer. I work as a Solution Architect and my company is selling both - RHEV and oVirt consulting and support. The reason for doing both is, that we want to give users a choice which solution fits better. The main benefits (in my opinion) of RHEV are: - Support with SLAs Red Hat provides support for RHEV with service levels. For oVirt you have to wait until someone of the developers or community members helps you on the mailing list or in IRC (or you buy support from a company with provides it). - Updates for each release for 3 years You receive for all releases (RHEV 3.1, 3.2,...) 3 years of support and updates. oVirt provides bugfix releases for the actual release (so you want get bugfix updates for 3.2 anymore, you have to upgrade to 3.3). For me this is the biggest advantage of RHEV. - Red Hat Knowledge Base Red Hat Knowledge Base is one of the best knowledge bases and it helps you greatly solving issues and gives useful tips. I use the knowledge base a lot and wouldn't want to miss it for any Red Hat product. - Stability RHEV is tested by a qa team and the releases are really stable. oVirt has newer features which are less tested. I upgrade oVirt release only to .1 releases (e.g. 3.2.x -> 3.3.1), not to .0 to avoid issues. - Guest agents Guest agents and RHEV tools are packaged for RHEL and Windows guests and are working fine. When using oVirt you miss some of the functionality of Windows guest tools or have to copy it from different locations. For other os'es it doesn't matter if using RHEV or oVirt. - Application / os support You should consider if your applications and operating systems are supported in oVirt as well. All apps certified for RHEL are certified for RHEV as well. Main benefits of oVirt: - Newest features oVirt gives you the latest and greatest. So it will take some time until this feature is available in RHEV, too (due to testing). - No subscription coasts You don't have to buy subscriptions for an oVirt environment, so it saves money. But on the other hand it can also cost you more money, if you have to spend a lot of time in troubleshooting or with upgrading (especially with possible upgrading issues) or having down times of your environment. It's not too easy to say if you should use RHEV or oVirt. I hope I could help you making a decision with my explanations above. You could also have both - a RHEV setup for production vms and an oVirt setup for development and qa vms. Regards, Ren=C3=A9 On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 16:06 +0100, Martijn Grendelman wrote:=20 <blockquote> Hi, This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an opinion on an "oVirt or RHEV" question within my company. I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients' applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see the benefits. Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs? I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-) Best regards, Martijn. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/= users=20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/= users=20 </blockquote> --=20 Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet Supervision r=C3=A9seau P=C3=B4le exploitation et maintenance D=C3=A9partement des syst=C3=A8mes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 =09 T=C3=A9l. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 blanchet(a)abes.fr=20 </blockquote> ------=_Part_1917943_185222171.1391852636417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head><style type=3D'text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><= div style=3D'font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = 12pt; color: #000000'><br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;fon= t-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetic= a,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>De: </b>"Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" &l= t;blanchet(a)abes.fr><br><b>=C3=80: </b>"Ren=C3=A9 Koch" <rkoch@linuxla= nd.at><br><b>Envoy=C3=A9: </b>Samedi 8 F=C3=A9vrier 2014 10:41:56<br><b>= Objet: </b>Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?<br><br><style>p { margin: 0; }</styl= e><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-siz= e: 12pt; color: #000000">Hi Ren=C3=A9, thanks for your answer.<br>My first = idea wasn't to redistribute a repackaging of RHEV, but to bring a more stab= le build of rhev than the one from ovirt. My idea was to do the same as oth= er project such as centos or scientific linux with RHEL. Yes they have remo= ved all Red Hat trademarks, it seems to be a hard work. I began yesterday, = I met a lot of dependance issues, you're right I can't waste such a time wi= th this kind of work alone, a collaborate work would be better, but unusefu= l because of the ovirt project. That's why I think centos make a very great= job.<br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;f= ont-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-seri= f;font-size:12pt;"><b>De: </b>"Ren=C3=A9 Koch" <rkoch(a)linuxland.at><b= r><b>=C3=80: </b>"Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" <blanchet(a)abes.fr>, "Marti= jn Grendelman" <martijn.grendelman(a)isaac.nl><br><b>Cc: </b>users@ovir= t.org<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9: </b>Vendredi 7 F=C3=A9vrier 2014 23:58:48<br><b>Ob= jet: </b>Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?<br><br> =20 =20 =20 =20 Hi Nathana=C3=ABl,<br> <br> Imho you need a lot of manpower to make this happen.<br> <br> You have to remove all Red Hat trademarks if you want to distribute it - this means remove it from RHEV-manager (engine), RHEV-H (node-image) and all Windows tools (e.g. USB policy editor, RHEV tools,...) so you not only need CentOS 6 build servers, but also Windows ones.<br> <br> Next you should have to support each release for 3 years which means in 2 years you maybe have to build packages for 3-6 RHEV releases - again takes a lot of time. Even if you can automate fetching, building and testing you still have to test it manually, too.<br> <br> I'm unsure if someone would do this work. Just speaking for me and the company I work for - RHEV and oVirt is working fine for us, so I wouldn't see much benefit of repackaging RHEV. Contributing to oVirt project with Nagios plugins, presentations, meetups,... makes more sense for us. Again just speaking about us, but I think other companies think in a same way...<br> <br> <br> Regards,<br> Ren=C3=A9<br> <br> <br> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 07.02.2014 10:33, Nathana=C3=ABl Blan= chet wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:52F4A868.7040901@abes.fr"> =20 <font size=3D"-1">Hi everybody, <br> <br> We could consider a third way : why not building RHEV from SRPMs since redhat provides them on <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" hr= ef=3D"ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/SRPMS/" target=3D"_blank">ftp:= //ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhev-m/3.x/SRPMS/</a> ? this can be a compromise between stability of rhev and ovirt free of charge.<br> I'm surprised that nobody has got this idea before.<br> <br> </font> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Le 06/02/2014 19:53, Ren=C3=A9 Koch a =C3=A9crit :<br> </div> <blockquote cite=3D"mid:20140206185356.EDA1C1682@mail.linuxland.de"> <pre>Hi Martijn, That's a good question and not too easy to answer. I work as a Solution Architect and my company is selling both - RHEV and oVirt consulting and support. The reason for doing both is, that we want to give users a choice which solution fits better. The main benefits (in my opinion) of RHEV are: - Support with SLAs Red Hat provides support for RHEV with service levels. For oVirt you have to wait until someone of the developers or community members helps you on the mailing list or in IRC (or you buy support from a company with provides it). - Updates for each release for 3 years You receive for all releases (RHEV 3.1, 3.2,...) 3 years of support and updates. oVirt provides bugfix releases for the actual release (so you want get bugfix updates for 3.2 anymore, you have to upgrade to 3.3). For me this is the biggest advantage of RHEV. - Red Hat Knowledge Base Red Hat Knowledge Base is one of the best knowledge bases and it helps you greatly solving issues and gives useful tips. I use the knowledge base a lot and wouldn't want to miss it for any Red Hat product. - Stability RHEV is tested by a qa team and the releases are really stable. oVirt has newer features which are less tested. I upgrade oVirt release only to .1 releases (e.g. 3.2.x -> 3.3.1), not to .0 to avoid issues. - Guest agents Guest agents and RHEV tools are packaged for RHEL and Windows guests and are working fine. When using oVirt you miss some of the functionality of Windows guest tools or have to copy it from different locations. For other os'es it doesn't matter if using RHEV or oVirt. - Application / os support You should consider if your applications and operating systems are supported in oVirt as well. All apps certified for RHEL are certified for RHEV as well. Main benefits of oVirt: - Newest features oVirt gives you the latest and greatest. So it will take some time until this feature is available in RHEV, too (due to testing). - No subscription coasts You don't have to buy subscriptions for an oVirt environment, so it saves money. But on the other hand it can also cost you more money, if you have to spend a lot of time in troubleshooting or with upgrading (especially with possible upgrading issues) or having down times of your environment. It's not too easy to say if you should use RHEV or oVirt. I hope I could help you making a decision with my explanations above. You could also have both - a RHEV setup for production vms and an oVirt setup for development and qa vms. Regards, Ren=C3=A9 On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 16:06 +0100, Martijn Grendelman wrote: </pre> <blockquote> <pre>Hi, This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an opinion on an "oVirt or RHEV" question within my company. I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients' applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see the benefits. Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs? I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-) Best regards, Martijn. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" targe= t=3D"_blank">Users(a)ovirt.org</a> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/l= istinfo/users" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/us= ers</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre>_______________________________________________ Users mailing list <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" targe= t=3D"_blank">Users(a)ovirt.org</a> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/l= istinfo/users" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/us= ers</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> <pre class=3D"moz-signature">--=20 Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet Supervision r=C3=A9seau P=C3=B4le exploitation et maintenance D=C3=A9partement des syst=C3=A8mes d'information 227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala 34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 =09 T=C3=A9l. 33 (0)4 67 54 84 55 Fax 33 (0)4 67 54 84 14 <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:blanchet@abes.fr" targ= et=3D"_blank">blanchet(a)abes.fr</a> </pre> </blockquote> <br> =20 </div><br></div></div><br></div></body></html> ------=_Part_1917943_185222171.1391852636417--

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[Users] Gluster question
by Maurice James 10 Feb '14

10 Feb '14

------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01CF22B5.E5FD9560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I currently have a new setup running ovirt 3.3.3. I have a Gluster storage domain with roughly 2.5TB of usable space. Gluster is installed on the same systems as the ovirt hosts. The host break down is as follows Ovirt DC: 4 hosts in the cluster. Each host has 4 physical disks in a RAID 5. Each disk is 500GB. With the OS installed and configured I end up with 1.2TB of usable space left for my data volume Gluster volume: 4 bricks with 1.2TB of space per brick (Distribute Replicate leaves me with about 2.5TB in the storage domain) Does this setup give me enough fault tolerance to survive losing a host and have my HA vm automatically move to an available host and keep running?? ------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01CF22B5.E5FD9560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta = http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 = (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US = link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p = class=3DMsoNormal>I currently have a new setup running ovirt 3.3.3. I = have a Gluster storage domain with roughly 2.5TB of usable space. =  Gluster is installed on the same systems as the ovirt hosts. The = host break down is as follows<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ovirt = DC:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>4 hosts in the cluster. Each host = has 4 physical disks in a RAID 5. Each disk is 500GB. With the OS = installed and configured I end up with 1.2TB of usable space left for my = data volume<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Gluster volume:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>4 = bricks with 1.2TB of space per brick (Distribute Replicate leaves me = with about 2.5TB in the storage domain)<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Does this = setup give me enough fault tolerance to survive losing a host and have = my HA vm automatically move to an available host and keep = running??<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01CF22B5.E5FD9560--

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[Users] Reattach storage domain
by Alexandr 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

Hello! Unfortunately my master storage domain (gluster) is dead. I setup another gluster-storage and attach it to the ovirt. Hostname, path and volume name are same as old ones. Then I restored from tar archive all files. But I cannot activate master domain, operation failed and domain status remains "inactive". I see - it mounted on nodes: vms02.lis.ua:STORAGE on /rhev/data-center/mnt/glusterSD/vms02.lis.ua:STORAGE I attached engine.log, can someone provide me recovery steps? P.S. Sorry for my english

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[Users] New iSCSI domain problem when first input wrong password
by Gianluca Cecchi 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

Hello, I have a fedora 19 engine based on 3.3 final. I installed a fedora 19 host (configured as infrastructure server) and then installed from web gui. Then yum update of the host updated vdsm (see separate thread I'm going to open for this). I create iSCSI DC and add that host to it. When I try to create the new iSCSI storage domain (sw iscsi target on a CentOS 6.5 server) I initially input the wrong chap password so that discovery goes ok, while authentication fails. Then I put correct pwd but after apparently going on (I see the exposed lun) then gives error in webadmin gui I have 2014-Feb-05, 16:57 Failed to attach Storage Domain OV01 to Data Center ISCSI. (User: admin@internal) 2014-Feb-05, 16:57 Failed to attach Storage Domains to Data Center ISCSI. (User: admin@internal) 2014-Feb-05, 16:57 The error message for connection 192.168.230.101 iqn.2013-09.local.localdomain:c6iscsit.target11 (LUN 1IET_00010001) returned by VDSM was: Failed to setup iSCSI subsystem 2014-Feb-05, 16:57 Storage Domain OV01 was added by admin@internal A workaround to have it activated is then (see logs 18:11): - put host in maintenance - reactivate it - attach sd to DC - ok (but see watermark message I don't understand) 2014-Feb-05, 18:13 The system has reached the 80% watermark on the VG metadata area size on OV01. This is due to a high number of Vdisks or large Vdisks size allocated on this specific VG. 2014-Feb-05, 18:13 Storage Domains were attached to Data Center ISCSI by admin@internal 2014-Feb-05, 18:13 Storage Domain OV01 (Data Center ISCSI) was activated by admin@internal 2014-Feb-05, 18:13 Storage Pool Manager runs on Host ovnode03 (Address: 192.168.33.44). 2014-Feb-05, 18:12 Data Center is being initialized, please wait for initialization to complete. 2014-Feb-05, 18:12 State was set to Up for host ovnode03. 2014-Feb-05, 18:11 Host ovnode03 was activated by admin@internal. 2014-Feb-05, 18:11 Host ovnode03 was switched to Maintenance mode by admin@internal. See my vdsm.log and supervdsm.log here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mval9XMnN4ZGoxa00/edit?usp=shari… https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mveC1KQmo1dFAtNzQ/edit?usp=shari… Possibly initially wrong password is not optimally managed when putting the correct one, as I see some traceback. Gianluca

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[Users] Cannot install ovirt-engine on Fedora 20 by using YUM
by Karthi Keyan 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

Hi All, I am new to Ovirt. I am trying to install ovirt-engine but i cannot able to install it. I have followed this documentation http://www.ovirt.org/Quick_Start_Guide#oVirt_Engine. And i am getting this Error: *[root@localhost yum.repos.d]# yum install ovirt-engine* Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit http://ovirt.org/releases/stable/rpm/Fedora/20/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 - Not Found Trying other mirror. No package ovirt-engine available. Error: Nothing to do Please guide me! Regards, Karthikeyan

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[Users] Can't open ovirt console using Spice or VNC - help!
by Drew Showers 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

Hello, I'm a nube with ovirt, but have the ovirt-engine and 1 remote host up and running (separate physical servers, same subnet). The network, DNS. NFS all work. I can create VM's, install the ISO OS with no problems. Here is were I get stuck. After a frustrating few hours trying to get a console to launch on my mac, I broke down and created a new Centos 6.4 Desktop VM using Fusion. I've installed - spice-xpi (yum install spice-xpi) virt-manager (yum install virt-manager) Using Firefox, if I try to open the console from the ovirt admin using Spice browser plugin or native client options, nothing happens (no errors either), other than message saying the user is initiating a console session. If using VNC, then it wants to either download the console.vv or open it with the default viewer, which throws and error "Unable to connect to the graphics server file" So, I'm stuck in going any further until I get this worked out. No VM IP or host name (unless I'm missing something)... I actually find this quite unfriendly. I know similar issues have been discussed previously, but none have solved my problem. BTW: I'm running Centos 6.5 on both the engine and host. I'm not sure if I'm missing additional packages or what. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Drew

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[Users] A/B network setup
by Pat Pierson 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

I am having some issues wrapping my head around this but what I am trying to setup is a A/B testing environment with a 3node cluster. Each node has 2 nics, 1 for ovirtmgmt and 1 for vlaned A/B network. I guess what I am trying to understand is if ovirt is tagging the vlan's I setup and is properly passing that to the switch? This would allow me to have multiple subnets on a host that the switch also can see as multiple vlans. Right? I would still have to configure the switch to allow that port access to both vlans. -- Patrick Pierson

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[Users] FOSDEM slides + recordings available
by Doron Fediuck 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

http://www.ovirt.org/FOSDEM_2014#Sessions I will continue to update with recordings (and last slides) as it becomes available. This is also a good chance to thank everyone involved. People who practiced, spoke, volunteered for stand shifts, Video handling, helping with the oVirt-live, carrying maps, laptops, handout-sheets, poster-sign to/from UBL and other logistics. Special thanks to Joop, René, Jorick, Robert and Alexander who joined us in ULB . We got a big and very positive exposure for oVirt, which as you'll be able to hear is getting a lot of community attention now. See you in FOSDEM 2015 ;) Doron

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[Users] Best way to request a new feature?
by Bob Doolittle 09 Feb '14

09 Feb '14

What's the best way to request a new feature? Do we manage a Wiki page for this somewhere? Or should I just open a bug/rfe? The feature I'd like to see: It would be nice if the Admin page had an indication either on the VMs page or in the left navigation frame when everything is in place for starting VMs. Here's an example scenario to illustrate why this would be useful: Every morning I power up my Engine and Host machines. The first thing I have to do is Activate my Host, and then monitor it while it comes up, Contends and eventually assumes SPM responsibility. Then I can change to the tab with my VMs and start up the one(s) I need, and open their consoles. But I have to watch the Host tab until SPM is established, because when looking at the VMs page there's no indication whether they can be started up yet or not. Nothing unless I try to start one, and get a pop-up error. Additional useful features: Is there any way to cause a VM to automatically power on as soon as oVirt is ready to do so? Is there any way to cause a console to automatically open up as soon as a VM is started? -Bob

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[Users] Backups
by Maurice James 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CF24F1.1C9886B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the recommended enterprise backup solution for RHEV/oVirt? Symantec, Veem, Backula.... ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CF24F1.1C9886B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META = HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 = (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US = link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p = class=3DMsoNormal>What is the recommended enterprise backup solution for = RHEV/oVirt?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Symantec, Veem, = Backula……..<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CF24F1.1C9886B0--

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[Users] Resource question
by Maurice James 08 Feb '14

08 Feb '14

------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CF24EA.83D4EAF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may seem like a silly question but, I just need to wrap my head around a concept Are my VMs limited by host or cluster resources? 4 hosts with the following resources per host: 2 6 core intel processors (24 cores per host) 32GB memory 1.2TB NFS storage So across the cluster I have 96 cpu cores 128GB memory 4.8TB of NFS storage Can I create a single VM with let's say: 25 cpu cores 64GB of RAM 2TB of storage Am I limited by the host or the cluster? ( Keep in mind that I'm not actually going to create such a ridiculous VM but the question is bothering me). Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CF24EA.83D4EAF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META = HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 15 = (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US = link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p = class=3DMsoNormal>This may seem like a silly question but, I just need = to wrap my head around a concept<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Are my VMs = limited by host or cluster resources?<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>4 hosts with = the following resources per host:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>2 6 = core intel processors (24  cores per host)<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>32GB memory<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>1.2TB = NFS storage<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>So across the cluster I have<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>96 cpu cores<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>128GB = memory<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>4.8TB of NFS = storage<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Can I create a single VM with let’s = say:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>25 cpu cores<o:p></o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>64GB of RAM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>2TB of = storage<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal>Am I limited by the host or the cluster? ( Keep in = mind that I’m not actually going to create such a ridiculous VM = but the question is bothering me). = Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html> ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01CF24EA.83D4EAF0--

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[Users] oVirt or RHEV ?
by Martijn Grendelman 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hi, This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an opinion on an "oVirt or RHEV" question within my company. I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients' applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see the benefits. Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs? I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-) Best regards, Martijn.

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[Users] NAT configuration
by martin.trudel＠cspq.gouv.qc.ca 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

--_000_587E1915ECF57147AF48C7A5FC8AD308B1EB973FWITPP01MSG10BIT_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I want to configure NAT in Ovirt with this procedure : http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-April/001751.html But I don't have the login password of virsh and for the PosgreSQL database= . I used the last version of oVirt with default installation with engine-setu= p Thanks. ________________________________ Ce message est confidentiel et est =E0 l'usage exclusif du destinataire ide= ntifi=E9 ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est, par les pr=E9sentes, avis=E9e= qu'il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, d'en = d=E9voiler le contenu ou de le reproduire. Si vous avez re=E7u cette commun= ication par erreur, veuillez en informer l'exp=E9diteur par courrier =E9lec= tronique imm=E9diatement et d=E9truire l'original de ce message ainsi que t= oute copie. ________________________________ --_000_587E1915ECF57147AF48C7A5FC8AD308B1EB973FWITPP01MSG10BIT_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html dir=3D"ltr"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <style id=3D"owaParaStyle" type=3D"text/css">  </style> </head> <body> <div style=3D"direction:ltr; font-family:Tahoma; color:#000000; font-size:1= 0pt">Hi,<br> <br> I want to configure NAT in Ovirt with this procedure :<br> <b id=3D"docs-internal-guid-4c415708-fe8c-049c-6ef7-4b677bf64e20" style=3D"= font-weight:normal"><a href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-= April/001751.html" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:= 15px; font-family:Consolas; color:#1155cc; background-color:#ffffff; font-w= eight:bold; font-style:normal; font-variant:normal; text-decoration:underli= ne; vertical-align:baseline; white-space:pre-wrap">http://lists.ovirt.org/p= ipermail/users/2012-April/001751.html</span></a><br> <br> But <b>I </b>don<b>'t have the login password of virsh and for the PosgreSQ= L database.<br> <br> I used the last version of oVirt with default installation with engine-setu= p<br> <br> Thanks.<br> </b></b></div> <hr> Ce message est confidentiel et est =E0 l'usage exclusif du destinataire ide= ntifi=E9 ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est, par les pr=E9sentes, avis=E9e= qu'il lui est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer, d'en = d=E9voiler le contenu ou de le reproduire. Si vous avez re=E7u cette communication par erreur, veuillez en informer l= 'exp=E9diteur par courrier =E9lectronique imm=E9diatement et d=E9truire l'o= riginal de ce message ainsi que toute copie. <hr> </body> </html> --_000_587E1915ECF57147AF48C7A5FC8AD308B1EB973FWITPP01MSG10BIT_--

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[Users] Timezone Hypervisor/VM
by Markus Stockhausen 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

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[Users] translate the project ovirt-docs, need your help
by 适兕 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hi: oVirt users. I just create a translate project ovirt-docs from zanata.org. the URL: https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/ovirt-docs&cid=117680 I just can translate to Chinese, So, I need your help. next I will to do blow things: 0、change ovirt-docs zanata.xml in gerrit 1、upload jp and zh-TW . Thanks. -- 独立之思想，自由之精神。 --陈寅恪

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[Users] Opaque oVirt/RHEV/Proxmox client and source code released
by i iordanov 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hello! Apologies for the cross-post. I've released Opaque into production on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.undatech.opaque and on Blackberry World for devices running Blackberry OS 10.2.1 or newer: http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/46004889 The source code is now part of the renamed (formerly bVNC) repository: https://github.com/iiordanov/remote-desktop-clients The old name of the repository links to the new one. I didn't think it's a good idea to keep calling it bVNC given that it already contains code to build 4 different remote desktop clients. If you are an oVirt or RHEV admin, please ensure that Opaque works in your environment before recommending it to your users. Please start by reading the KNOWN ISSUES section in the description of the application. Thanks for all the feedback I received from the beta test community! I will still be releasing new features to be beta-tested before pushing them to production. Sincerely, iordan -- The conscious mind has only one thread of execution.

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[Users] VNC Console
by ml ml 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hello List, i am running ovirt 3.3.3-2.el6. It looks really cool and nice. However, the VNC Console drives me Crazy. I can seem to get a proper Key Mapping. My VNC Keyboard Layout is set to "en-us" and i am booting a live cd, also with en-us key mapping. However the keys such as / or = are not working and its driving me carzy that i am failing on this simple task. Can anyone help? What Client do you use in Mac and Windows? Is there anything else i need to take care of? Thanks, Mario

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Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?
by Martijn Grendelman 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hi Dave (and everyone else who responded), Thank you for your explanations. It was the objectiveness I was looking for, even though you work for Red Hat :-) At least the benefits of RHEV are way more clear to me now, which is what I needed. The choice is still a tough one, expecially since the oVirt users mailing list is one of most helpful ones I know. Thanks again, Martijn. Dave Neary schreef op 6-2-2014 19:32: > Hi, > > On 02/06/2014 04:06 PM, Martijn Grendelman wrote: >> This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an >> opinion on an "oVirt or RHEV" question within my company. > > I suspect you'll get a different answer if you ask here vs Red Hat > sales. I'll try to be objective (disclosure: I work for Red Hat). > >> I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite >> comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now >> planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients' >> applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are >> questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see >> the benefits. > > If you are running any applications which are certified on RHEL, and you > want to ensure you continue getting the benefits of certification, then > you should check if your supplier will support the configuration of > "application on RHEL guest on oVirt managed hypervisor" - Red Hat does > not support the operating system in this configuration, so if certified > applications and support are important, this is something you may want > to consider. > > In general, oVirt will get less integration testing and QA than RHEV > (purely a resource allocation issue), so you will occasionally hit bugs > in oVirt that are fixed in the equivalent RHEV release. Bug fixes for > RHEV get into oVirt too, but in the master branch usually, so if you're > running a stable release of oVirt, you may still have the issue, unless > the fix is back-ported to the stable release branch. > > On the flip side, features appear first in oVirt, so if there are newer > features you really need, you could use them on oVirt. A few months > later, they will be available in the RHEV product. > > Also, while most RHEV documentation will apply to oVirt, that's not > always the case. A recent example was the Node quick start > documentation, as pointed out by a list member. If you like > documentation matching the actual functionality of the project, you can > help fix the oVirt documentation. > > Actually, that's a key differentiator - your ability to engage with the > community, help update the wiki, test new features while they're still > in design & ensure they fit your needs, are for me the key selling > points of the project. If you want something that is supported, on which > your apps are certified, and for which you can get good support, and > have a reasonable expectation of more stability, RHEV is for you. > > >> Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better >> choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs? >> >> I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo >> jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-) > > You also got this from redhat.com - hope I didn't disappoint you. > > Cheers, > Dave. > >

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Re: [Users] oVirt or RHEV ?
by Martijn Grendelman 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

Hi René, Sorry for top-posting, but I just wanted to say that this was a really helpful answer, and it actually made me rethink yesterday's decision:-). Thank you very much. Cheers, Martijn. René Koch schreef op 6-2-2014 19:53: > Hi Martijn, > > That's a good question and not too easy to answer. > I work as a Solution Architect and my company is selling both - RHEV and > oVirt consulting and support. The reason for doing both is, that we want > to give users a choice which solution fits better. > > The main benefits (in my opinion) of RHEV are: > > - Support with SLAs > Red Hat provides support for RHEV with service levels. For oVirt you > have to wait until someone of the developers or community members helps > you on the mailing list or in IRC (or you buy support from a company > with provides it). > > - Updates for each release for 3 years > You receive for all releases (RHEV 3.1, 3.2,...) 3 years of support and > updates. oVirt provides bugfix releases for the actual release (so you > want get bugfix updates for 3.2 anymore, you have to upgrade to 3.3). > For me this is the biggest advantage of RHEV. > > - Red Hat Knowledge Base > Red Hat Knowledge Base is one of the best knowledge bases and it helps > you greatly solving issues and gives useful tips. I use the knowledge > base a lot and wouldn't want to miss it for any Red Hat product. > > - Stability > RHEV is tested by a qa team and the releases are really stable. oVirt > has newer features which are less tested. I upgrade oVirt release only > to .1 releases (e.g. 3.2.x -> 3.3.1), not to .0 to avoid issues. > > - Guest agents > Guest agents and RHEV tools are packaged for RHEL and Windows guests and > are working fine. When using oVirt you miss some of the functionality of > Windows guest tools or have to copy it from different locations. For > other os'es it doesn't matter if using RHEV or oVirt. > > - Application / os support > You should consider if your applications and operating systems are > supported in oVirt as well. All apps certified for RHEL are certified > for RHEV as well. > > > Main benefits of oVirt: > > - Newest features > oVirt gives you the latest and greatest. So it will take some time until > this feature is available in RHEV, too (due to testing). > > - No subscription coasts > You don't have to buy subscriptions for an oVirt environment, so it > saves money. But on the other hand it can also cost you more money, if > you have to spend a lot of time in troubleshooting or with upgrading > (especially with possible upgrading issues) or having down times of your > environment. > > > It's not too easy to say if you should use RHEV or oVirt. > I hope I could help you making a decision with my explanations above. > You could also have both - a RHEV setup for production vms and an oVirt > setup for development and qa vms. > > > Regards, > René > > > > On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 16:06 +0100, Martijn Grendelman wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This may be the wrong place to ask, but I'm looking for input to form an >> opinion on an "oVirt or RHEV" question within my company. >> >> I have been running oVirt for about 5 months now, and I'm quite >> comfortable with its features and maintenance procedures. We are now >> planning to build a private virtualization cluster for hosting clients' >> applications as well as our own. Some people in the company are >> questioning whether we should buy RHEV, but at this point, I can't see >> the benefits. >> >> Can anyone on this list shed a light on when RHEV might be a better >> choice than oVirt? What are the benefits? The trade-offs? >> >> I am looking for pragmatic, real-world things, not marketing mumbo >> jumbo. That, I can get from redhat.com ;-) >> >> Best regards, >> Martijn. >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >

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[Users] SPICE behind NAT
by Alan Murrell 07 Feb '14

07 Feb '14

I have setup a test All-In-One install but it is behind a Linux NAT firewall (IPTables). I have been reading about Spice-Proxy and know the basics of setting it up (install squid, configure the ovirt engine SpiceProxyDefault), however I just wanted to know how I would do this in a NAT situation? Would I install Squid on the firewall? When I configure SpiceProxyDefault on the ovirt-engine, I set it to use the internal IP of the firewall/Squid? Anything else I would possibly need to do? -Alan

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