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by Bill Dossett 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

--_000_B47F00825D68444ABC0373307827536037159F52013BR1MPN1012MG_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am creating my first ovirt VM from a windows 2008 R2 iso. After setting it all up, loading the drivers etc it looks fine, but it seem= s like it has no network connectivity. This is odd as it is obtaining a DH= CP address and it looks like it can browse for other windows systems on the= network. But I can't ping it, it can't ping out and I can't remote deskto= p into it. Normally this sounds like a firewall problem, but I disabled th= at immediately. It is using the virtio driver. It is connected to the def= ault network ovirtmgmt which has a dhcp server on it. Ovirt-engine says th= e interface is up and connected and windows thinks it is connected to an un= known network with out internet access. I can't ping the default gateway f= rom the VM console. Seems silly, but I've kind of run out of things to try= on this now. I am using VLAN tagging on the ovirt-engine network side of = things and it is plugged into a trunked port... but I wouldn't think that = has anything to do with the VM itself as I am not doing anything with VLAN= s on the VM itself, it is just connected to it. All the host network/inter= faces are pingable in the cluster as well. Thanks if anyone has any ideas what I might be looking for. Bill Dossett Virtualisation Architect Pitney Bowes - Tech Central 6 Hercules Way, 600 Leavesden Park Watford, WD25 7GS Phone (+44) (0)1923 279353 | VOIP: 54739353 Mobile (+44) (0)7775 908612 bill.dossett(a)pb.com<mailto:bill.dossett@pb.com> www.pb.com<http://www.pb.com/> In Engineering? 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Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am creating my first ovirt VM from a windows 2008 = R2 iso.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">After setting it all up, loading the drivers etc it = looks fine, but it seems like it has no network connectivity.  This is= odd as it is obtaining a DHCP address and it looks like it can browse for = other windows systems on the network.  But I can’t ping it, it can’t ping out and I can’t remot= e desktop into it.  Normally this sounds like a firewall problem, but = I disabled that immediately.  It is using the virtio driver.  It = is connected to the default network ovirtmgmt which has a dhcp server on it.  Ovirt-engine says the interface is up and connected and windo= ws thinks it is connected to an unknown network with out internet access.&n= bsp; I can’t ping the default gateway from the VM console.  Seem= s silly, but I’ve kind of run out of things to try on this now.  I am using VLAN tagging on the ovirt-engine network side o= f things and it is plugged into a trunked port…  but I wouldn&#8= 217;t think that has anything to do  with the VM itself as I am not do= ing anything with VLANs on the VM itself, it is just connected to it.  All the host network/interfaces are pingable in the cluster a= s well.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks if anyone has any ideas what I might be looki= ng for.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" style=3D"border-collapse:collapse"> <tbody> <tr> <td width=3D"596" style=3D"width:447.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"= ><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","s= ans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Bill Dossett<o:p></o= :p></span></b></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"= ><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","s= ans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Virtualisation Archi= tect</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana&qu= ot;,"sans-serif";color:#A2A2A2;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"><o:p><= /o:p></span></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width=3D"596" style=3D"width:447.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-after:avoid;text-autospace:none"= ><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","s= ans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">Pitney Bowes –= Tech Central</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo= t;Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:EN-G= B"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" 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oVirt 3.4 entering security/critical fix only phase
by Sandro Bonazzola 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Hi, As you should know, we released oVirt 3.4.4 yesterday. After this release, only security/critical fixes will be allowed on 3.4 branch and only a security/critical update will cause a new oVirt 3.4.z release. It's time to focus on new features for 3.6.0! Thanks, -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

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Registration Now Open for the oVirt Workshop, Oct. 16!
by Brian Proffitt 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

As oVirt strives to become the best open source and comprehensive data center virtualization management suite, and its community rapidly evolves and grows, one of the ways its vibrant community connects is through our Global Workshops. The events are conducted solely to introduce new users and veteran oVirt admins to new features and new techniques found in oVirt, as well as provide a forum for our users to connect directly with the development team behind oVirt. With that in mind, we are pleased to announce that registration is now open for the 2014 oVirt Workshop[1]! The 2014 oVirt workshop will be co-located with the KVM Forum[2] in Düsseldorf, Germany[3]on October 16, 2014. This workshop is designed to encourage collaboration in our community, lay the foundation for best practices in oVirt use, convey end-user stories, and help answer questions about the project from both a developer and user's perspective. Attendees can register free-of-charge[4] to the Workshop alone, or, if attending LinuxCon EU[5], CloudOpen Europe[6], Embedded Linux Conference[7], or KVM Forum[8], can also add this free Workshop to their itineraries when registering. We look forward to seeing you there! [1] http://www.ovirt.org/KVM_Forum_Workshop_Oct_2014 [2] http//events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum [3] http://ow.ly/BPSnM [4] https://www.regonline.com/Register/Checkin.aspx?EventID=1625495 [5] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe/extend-the-experie… [6] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/cloudopen-europe/extend-the-experi… [7] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/e… [8] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/extend-the-experience/co… -- Brian Proffitt Community Liaison oVirt Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Phone: +1 574 383 9BKP IRC: bkp @ OFTC

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Fedora 21 Test Day
by Federico Simoncelli 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

FYI, in a couple of days it will be the Fedora 21 virtualization test day: http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-09-02/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-25_Virtualization it's a good opportunity for us to check for regressions with vdsm (qemu, libvirt, virt-tools), get more attention from the fedora community, have quicker feedback on issues and get them fixed before release. -- Federico

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changing uid:gid of vdsm:kvm
by Stefan Wendler 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

Hi, this might be documented somewhere but I cannot find it. In what way does ovirt rely on vdsm:kvm being 36:36? Or can I just change the uid:gid everywhere and be golden? I need to change the uid:gid of vdsm:kvm to a value >1024. It has something to do with the setup of the diskstore I am supposed to use for this setup. The diskstore is a Synology which has all kinds of strange implications on the setup. Cheers, Stefan

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How to disconnect hosted-engine NFS storage pool?
by Groten, Ryan 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

--_000_61A8344D117D814CA4DA393472F38CF4018F626E33CD1001M360cor_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to unmounted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all the o= ther running VMs on the host. When I shutdown the hosted-engine and enable= global maintenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I can't unmount = it because the "sanlock" process is using it. Is there any way to disconnect the storage pool? There is a hosted-engine = --connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it. Thanks, Ryan --_000_61A8344D117D814CA4DA393472F38CF4018F626E33CD1001M360cor_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT= =3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Micros= oft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=3DEN-CA link=3Dblue vli= nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f= ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I want to unmoun= ted the hosted-engine NFS share without affecting all the other running VMs= on the host.  When I shutdown the hosted-engine and enable global mai= ntenance, the storage pool is still mounted and I can’t unmount it be= cause the “sanlock” process is using it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><= p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Go= thic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Is the= re any way to disconnect the storage pool?  There is a hosted-engine -= -connect-storage option but I see nothing to disconnect it.<o:p></o:p></spa= n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cen= tury Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal= ><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'= >Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size= :10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></= p></div></body></html>= --_000_61A8344D117D814CA4DA393472F38CF4018F626E33CD1001M360cor_--

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[OVIRT-3.5-TEST-DAY-3] Remote DWH & Reports
by Frantisek Kobzik 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

Hello everyone, I forgot to post my test day result and was told to do it now (I basically re-discovered two issues that are already known). So here it is: Testing DWH and Reports on separate machine HW 3 VMs - Engine, DWH&Reports (5 GB RAM), Host with local storage Test subject Deploy and run DWH and Reports on other machine (from engine machine) Progress - Deployed with help of annotated setup [1] Result - PROBLEM: Reports link on engine (machine A) links to services/reports-redirect, this opens flow.html on machine A (I'd suppose rediring to B)! - opening flow.html on B gives 404 anyway - manual navigation to https://dwh/ovirt-engine-reports/login.html finally opens dwh reports portal - seems that bz has already been created https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1142256 - Certificate machinery is ok, despite the fact copying/pasting from/to stdout/stdin seems a little bit bizzare to me. Opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144309 - Clicked through reports portal and it seems it works nice - I was able to see information about my deployment (Clusters, Hosts, VMs). Cheers! Franta.

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Fwd: Re: Geo-replication user flows
by Sahina Bose 23 Sep '14

23 Sep '14

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070706000003030108020808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI... Feedback about geo-replication user flows - thanks to Ju. (http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience) Please feel free to add/comment thanks sahina -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Geo-replication user flows Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:49:17 -0400 From: Ju Lim <julim(a)redhat.com> To: Sahina Bose <sabose(a)redhat.com> Hi Sahina: Thanks for getting back to me. I took away 3 action items from the email: Geo-replication session configuration options mockup -- we're working on putting something together Dashboard - what to show in the dashboard; we're working on putting something together Checkpoint history - what to show. Here's what I believe you should show: * show what you would get from the "# gluster volume geo-replication <source_volume> <destination_host>::<destination_volume> config log-file | xargs grep checkpoint" command * show the following columns (I'll assume you don't need a mockup as this most likely would be shown in a table) o checkpoint name, checkpoint creation date, amount of data transferred (indicate if delta or cumulative size), status Please feel free to forward to oVirt users. Thanks, Ju On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Sahina Bose <sabose(a)redhat.com <mailto:sabose@redhat.com>> wrote: > Ju, > > Thanks for the detailed feedback. My responses inline. > > On 09/11/2014 01:24 AM, Ju Lim wrote: >> Sahina: >> >> I finally had some time to review the Geo-replication proposal on >> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience. >> >> Will we have a tab (sibling to Volumes, Clusters, etc.) for >> Replication Sessions so a user can see all Geo-Replication Sessions >> in 1 place vs. looking into every volume to identify them? I see >> later a question asked about it. +1 that we need a "Geo-Replication >> Sessions" or "Geo-Replication" in the main tab. > > This tab would be empty if there are no replication sessions. > But having a tab will all replication sessions would be useful and > could be used to start a new one. > > >> >> Is there a proposal yet for what we'll show related to replication in >> the dashboard? > > No, no proposal yet. > >> >> For the Geo-Replication detail tab (in the Volume main tab), >> Should the action be "New" or "Create Session"? Reason I ask is that >> it's "Create Volume" vs. "New Volume" in the master area. > > We are trying to be consistent with the verbs..and have changed to > Volume -> New for creating a volume. So it should be "New Session" IMO > > >> >> For the Create Session / New, can we use the same dialog whether it's >> coming from the Geo-Replication detail tab (in the Volume main tab) >> and the "Geo-Replication Sessions" main tab? >> >> The only difference is that the one from the main tab would >> additionally ask the source (host / IP Address + volume). For the >> detail tab, instead of prompting for the source, we can show it. > > Yes, it can be the same dialog. The information regarding source > volume would be prefilled if it's coming from the geo-replication sub-tab. > > >> >> For the Destination (or Remote) Cluster Volumes, can the destination >> volume be of a different volume type to participate in geo-replication? > > Destination volume can be of a different volume type. > >> >> For the Geo-Replication Session Options, can we make the >> configuration options >> (https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Storage/2.1/html/Admi…) more >> usable vs. cryptic as it currently seems? Specifically, can we >> showcase the defaults and provide the rest as Advanced configurations >> that they can change? > > We were planning to have a UI similar to the volume options. Do let us > know, if there's a better way to do this. > >> >> The Geo-Replication Session Details view -- I'm not sure what this is >> telling the user other then how long the host has been up. Does this >> mean that replication has been running for as long as the uptime for >> those hosts? It seems to be missing Checkpoint information and >> Checkpoint history information, which is important for >> geo-replication consistency. >> >> Specifically, when I think of what is typically shown in a >> geo-replication session, I'd expect to see the following columns of >> information: >> >> Source Volume, Destination / Remote Volume, Status, Last Checkpoint, >> Last Checkpoint Label >> >> If different volume types can be used within the same replication >> session, then we would also want to show the volume type on the >> remote volume. > > Session details view will also show information on files/bytes > skipped, moved etc per brick node. > > Regarding checkpoint, there's currently only a checkpoint status being > shown. There's some enhancements to be done in gluster geo-rep with > regards to checkpoints > > What information would need to be shown in checkpoint history? > > >> >> BTW, do you know if there are plans to show volume size (total, used, >> available/remaining) in the Volume master area? > > Yes, we have introduced a volume capacity column in the Volumes tab, > which will show these details. > >> >> Is there any possibility to change the terminology from master-slave >> to source-destination, source-remote, master-remote? The >> master-slave terminology is quite unusual in the storage replication >> realm. I ask as I see docs, CLI, etc. that already use the >> master-slave terminology. > > We could change in the docs and UI...CLI, not so sure. > > >> >> We're happy to put together mockups and/or a proposal if it would be >> helpful. Is this the best way to provide input, or should I be >> posting my comments on >> http://www.ovirt.org/Talk:Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication? > > If you have suggestions on showing the configuration options and for > the dashboard, that would be welcome. > I could forward this to ovirt users for wider circulation. > > thanks! > >> >> Please advise. >> >> Thanks, >> Ju >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Sahina Bose <sabose(a)redhat.com >> <mailto:sabose@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The user experience section >>> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience , >>> has been updated to capture the user flows. (The mockups, however, >>> are older and do not completely reflect the updated text) >>> >>> There are couple of open questions. Please review and provide >>> suggestions. >>> >>> thanks >>> sahina >>> >> > --------------070706000003030108020808 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> FYI... Feedback about geo-replication user flows - thanks to Ju. (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience</a>).<br> <br> Please feel free to add/comment<br> <br> thanks<br> sahina<br> <div class="moz-forward-container"><br> <br> -------- Original Message -------- <table class="moz-email-headers-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th> <td>Re: Geo-replication user flows</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th> <td>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:49:17 -0400</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th> <td>Ju Lim <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julim@redhat.com"><julim(a)redhat.com></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th> <td>Sahina Bose <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sabose@redhat.com"><sabose(a)redhat.com></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE"><br> </th> <td><br> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> Hi Sahina: <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks for getting back to me.  I took away 3 action items from the email:</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div> <div><font face="Arial">Geo-replication session configuration options mockup -- we're working on putting something together</font></div> <div><font face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div> <div><font face="Arial">Dashboard - what to show in the dashboard; </font><span style="font-family: Arial; ">we're working on putting something together</span></div> </div> </div> <div><span style="font-family: Arial; "><br> </span></div> <div> <div><font face="Arial">Checkpoint history - what to show.  Here's what I believe you should show:</font></div> <div> <ul> <li><font face="Arial">show what you would get from the "<span style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); line-height: 18.2000007629395px; orphans: 4; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 4; "># gluster volume geo-replication <source_volume> <destination_host>::<destination_volume> config log-file | xargs grep checkpoint" command</span></font></li> <li><span style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); line-height: 18.2000007629395px; orphans: 4; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 4; "><font face="Arial">show the following columns (I'll assume you don't need a mockup as this most likely would be shown in a table)</font></span></li> <ul> <li><span style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); line-height: 18.2000007629395px; orphans: 4; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 4; "><font face="Arial">checkpoint name, checkpoint creation date, amount of data transferred (indicate if delta or cumulative size), status</font></span></li> </ul> </ul> <div>Please feel free to forward to oVirt users.</div> </div> </div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks,</div> <div>Ju</div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div> <div>On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Sahina Bose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sabose@redhat.com">sabose(a)redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Ju,<br> <br> Thanks for the detailed feedback. My responses inline.<br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/11/2014 01:24 AM, Ju Lim wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <span style="line-height: 22px; font-size: 13px;"><font face="Arial">Sahina:</font></span> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">I finally had some time to review the Geo-replication proposal on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience" style="line-height: 15px; ">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience</a>.</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Will we have a tab (sibling to Volumes, Clusters, etc.) for Replication Sessions so a user can see all Geo-Replication Sessions in 1 place vs. looking into every volume to identify them?  I see later a question asked about it.  +1 that we need a "Geo-Replication Sessions" or "Geo-Replication" in the main tab.</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">This tab would be empty if there are no replication sessions.<br> But having a tab will all replication sessions would be useful and could be used to start a new one.<br> <br>  <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Is there a proposal yet for what we'll show related to replication in the dashboard?</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">No, no proposal yet.<br> <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the Geo-Replication detail tab (in the Volume main tab), </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Should the action be "New" or "Create Session"?  Reason I ask is that it's "Create Volume" vs. "New Volume" in the master area.</font></div> </blockquote> <br> We are trying to be consistent with the verbs..and have changed to Volume -> New for creating a volume. So it should be "New Session" IMO<br> <br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the Create Session / New, can we use the same dialog whether it's coming from the Geo-Replication detail tab (in the Volume main tab) and the "Geo-Replication Sessions" main tab?</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">The only difference is that the one from the main tab would additionally ask the source (host / IP Address + volume).  For the detail tab, instead of prompting for the source, we can show it.</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">Yes, it can be the same dialog. The information regarding source volume would be prefilled if it's coming from the geo-replication sub-tab.<br> <br> <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the Destination (or Remote) Cluster Volumes, can the destination volume be of a different volume type to participate in geo-replication?</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">Destination volume can be of a different volume type.</font><br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the Geo-Replication Session Options, can we make the configuration options (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Storage/2.1/html/Admi…">https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Storage/2.1/html/Admi…</a>) more usable vs. cryptic as it currently seems?  Specifically, can we showcase the defaults and provide the rest as Advanced configurations that they can change?</font></div> </blockquote> <br> We were planning to have a UI similar to the volume options. Do let us know, if there's a better way to do this.<br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">The Geo-Replication Session Details view -- I'm not sure what this is telling the user other then how long the host has been up.  Does this mean that replication has been running for as long as the uptime for those hosts?  It seems to be missing Checkpoint information and Checkpoint history information, which is important for geo-replication consistency.</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Specifically, when I think of what is typically shown in a geo-replication session, I'd expect to see the following columns of information:</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">   Source Volume, Destination / Remote Volume, Status, Last Checkpoint, Last Checkpoint Label</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">If different volume types can be used within the same replication session, then we would also want to show the volume type on the remote volume.</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">Session details view will also show information on files/bytes skipped, moved</font> etc per brick node.<br> <br> Regarding checkpoint, there's currently only a checkpoint status being shown. There's some enhancements to be done in gluster geo-rep with regards to checkpoints<br> <br> What information would need to be shown in checkpoint history?<br> <br> <br> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">BTW, do you know if there are plans to show volume size (total, used, available/remaining) in the Volume master area?</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">Yes, we have introduced a volume capacity column in the Volumes tab, which will show these details.<br> <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Is there any possibility to change the terminology from master-slave to source-destination, source-remote, master-remote?  The master-slave terminology is quite unusual in the storage replication realm.  I ask as I see docs, CLI, etc. that already use the master-slave terminology.</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">We could change in the docs and UI...CLI, not so sure.<br> <br> <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">We're happy to put together mockups and/or a proposal if it would be helpful.  Is this the best way to provide input, or should I be posting my comments on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ovirt.org/Talk:Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication">http://www.ovirt.org/Talk:Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication</a>?</font></div> </blockquote> <br> <font face="Arial">If you have suggestions on showing the configuration options and for the dashboard, that would be welcome.<br> I could forward this to ovirt users for wider circulation.<br> <br> thanks!<br> <br> </font> <blockquote cite="mid:EDB5A6A7-C6ED-4A4A-A15C-5405FF771F92@redhat.com" type="cite"> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Please advise.</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br> </font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Thanks,</font></div> <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Ju</font></div> <div style="font-family: Noteworthy-Light; font-size: 15px; "><br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div>On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Sahina Bose <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sabose@redhat.com">sabose(a)redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite">Hi all,<br> <br> The user experience section <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience</a> , has been updated to capture the user flows. (The mockups, however, are older and do not completely reflect the updated text)<br> <br> There are couple of open questions. Please review and provide suggestions.<br> <br> thanks<br> sahina<br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </blockquote> <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> <br> </div> <br> </body> </html> --------------070706000003030108020808--

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