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Re: [Users] ovirt-node on Gentoo
by Doron Fediuck 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

On Monday 21 November 2011 19:12:36 Federico Simoncelli wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doron Fediuck" <dfediuck(a)redhat.com> > > To: users(a)ovirt.org > > Cc: "VDSM Project Development" <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org> > > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:13:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] ovirt-node on Gentoo > > > > On Monday 21 November 2011 16:00:26 Doron Fediuck wrote: > > > On Monday 21 November 2011 14:49:43 Mike Burns wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 07:42 -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually we're thinking about NetworkManager, not netcf. > > > > > > > > Does NetworkManager have an api or library level package that > > > > doesn't > > > > pull in all the UI bits? ovirt-node does not currently include > > > > NetworkManager packages at all and we don't want to pull anything > > > > that > > > > is going to pull in X or another UI. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > +1 > > > NetworkManager pulls in gnome, while it's net being used in many > > > cases, > > > especially in servers. > > > As for netcf in Gentoo, there's not substantial support which will > > > make > > > it easy to work with. > > > > > Clarifying my cryptic typos- netcf has no proper support in Gentoo. > > It will be helpful if vdsm takes a more generic approach. > > Configuring the network is a difficult task. Taking a more generic > approach means facing again the problems that NetworkManager found > and resolved in the past. > > Do you know any other (mature) project that is trying to fill in the > gaps between the network configurations in the various distro? > I'm worried that taking a generic approach we'll end up creating a > small NetworkManager clone with a smaller scope (usable only for the > vdsm tasks). > > We could use our effort to improve NetworkManager where it's lacking > of functionality/packaging. For example I've been waiting for the bridge > support for a long time, I hope to see it soon. > Federico, Since I personally know the one who wrote most of the vdsm-ovirt/rhel integration bugs (not the code, just the bugs...) I'm fully aware of network complexity, and the impact of supporting several distro's. This is exactly why I asked for a /generic/ approach, which will not pull in numerous packages which are distro or desktop-env specific. Having said that, I can tell you that last night I did some more investigations in Gentoo, and I was pleasantly surprised to see the following: emerge -DuNavt --with-bdeps=y --keep-going net-misc/networkmanager These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.4.0-r2 USE="bluetooth ppp -avahi -connection-sharing -dhclient -dhcpcd -doc -gnutls -nss -resolvconf" 1,634 kB [ebuild N ] net-misc/modemmanager-0.4 USE="policykit -doc -test" 435 kB Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 2,069 kB This means that network manager no longer pulls gnome-related packages, which is very good news. If this is the case in other distro's I think we can converge on this solution. I guess we only need some input from Suse / Ubuntu people to see if it works for them as well. -- /d "This message will self destruct in the future. Or not."

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[Users] ovirt-node on Gentoo
by Dimitrije Zivkovic 21 Nov '11

21 Nov '11

Hi, after few hours of playing around with ovirt-node and following http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Ovirt_Quickstart guide, I've managed to get all the way to installing vdsm on gentoo server. At this point, it is not even the issue of creating the ebuild file for vdsm, the blocker for me was the following: - after compiling vdsm and installing it, order of files and install locations are clearly following redhat system - when starting vdsm by startup script (which is in /etc/rc.d/init.d, which, in turn, does not exists in Gentoo), from errors thrown at me I see that it is redhat startup script So, I will look through the code, when time allows, but if someone could help out by some info or advice, it would be appreciated... So far, I would start by porting /etc/init.d/functions from fedora and then continue to solve the problem with conf files being on different locations. Any thoughts on this? Is this the wa to go, in the first place? Dimitrije

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[Users] FOSDEM & more general booth/promotion stuff.
by Robyn Bergeron 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

FOSDEM is the 4th and 5th of February. http://fosdem.org/2012/ I'd like to go ahead and reserve table space for us, but need to know if we have anyone who is willing to volunteer and hang out at the table and answer questions. Or better yet, if we have a few people who are willing to take turns doing some booth duty there. Also up for discussion: * We'll probably need a tablecloth * Would be nice to have some marketing materials (flyers, stickers, etc) * Super wish list: Have a hand-out disc capable of booting into multiple distros with oVirt packages ready to go * Have a demo of sorts available (machine remote, but a console available for playing) Please pipe up if you're planning on attending in some capacity! :) -Robyn

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[Users] vdsm configuration
by Cristian Falcas 18 Nov '11

18 Nov '11

Hello all, Can someone point me to some documentation regarding vdsm (and if needed libvirt) configuration? How it is accessed by the ovirt-engine and how to set it to a certain ovirt-engine on the network. Currently my libvirt is complaining that it can't work with ssh-less vdsm and I have no idea how to set up the keys for vdsm. Also I have no idea how to define the storage: in ovirt or in vdsm? Who is reporting the disks/files available? I hope I understood correctly that only the vdsm package is needed to make the physical machine available for ovirt and only ovirt-engine is doing all the heavy work. Also, if the questions are too "RTFM", please let me know where I can find any help related to ovirt. Best regards, Cristian Falcas

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[Users] Any teams having weekly meetings?
by Robyn Bergeron 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Howdy howdy, I just created a "meetings" wiki page - if anyone else is having meetings, feel free to add the where/when to this wiki page. http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings (And I linked it to the newly-created "Communication" page, http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Communication - feel free to add in mailing lists or anything else pertinent that you see fit.) -Robyn

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[Users] oVirt Sync Meeting Minutes :: 2011-11-16
by Robyn Bergeron 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

Thanks to everyone for attending today's meeting on IRC. We'll be meeting weekly at this time-slot (Wednesdays, 15:00 UTC) on #ovirt on irc.oftc.net in lieu of the phone meeting as we go forward. Minutes/logs follow below. Cheers, -Robyn Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2011/ovirt.2011-11-16-15.00.html Full Logs: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2011/ovirt.2011-11-16-15.00.log.html ================================= #ovirt: oVirt weekly sync meeting ================================= Meeting started by rbergeron at 15:00:13 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2011/ovirt.2011-11-16-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Gathering people... who's here? (rbergeron, 15:01:09) * pmyers, rharper, mburns, mestery, mdday_, smoser, rbergeron, jimjag, dannf, cctrieloff, bazulay, MarkBaker present (rbergeron, 15:02:53) * Agenda (rbergeron, 15:03:17) * gargya, aliguori, quaid are also present and awesome. (rbergeron, 15:04:13) * Topics for today include: press release status, board vs. project-planning mailing lists, upcoming event planning, moving towards first release, opening up mailing list to non-subcriber posts (rbergeron, 15:04:57) * Topics also include: ftp / repo setup status& progress (rbergeron, 15:05:15) * sgordon also present (rbergeron, 15:05:28) * Topics also include: Feedback on release date from SUSE and Canonical - around 16th. (rbergeron, 15:05:54) * Press release status (rbergeron, 15:06:32) * Have all PR signoffs except Cisco / Intel (as of yesterday) (rbergeron, 15:07:19) * Both IBM and SUSE provided minor edits, which Kerri has taken into account and submitted back to the PR orgs. (rbergeron, 15:09:41) * ACTION: rharper to ask on-list about the prospects of sending out a final draft of the press release to everyone. (rbergeron, 15:10:56) * ACTION: cctrieloff has next action from cisco, and will follow up re: press release (rbergeron, 15:11:43) * ACTION: cctrieloff to follow up with kerri on intel status (rbergeron, 15:12:18) * Board vs. Project-planning list (rbergeron, 15:12:31) * AGREED: board list obsoletes project-planning list for meeting invites, etc. (rbergeron, 15:15:04) * AGREED: event coordination to go to users@ list. (rbergeron, 15:15:16) * AGREED: sunset the planning list (rbergeron, 15:15:23) * ACTION: quaid to verify that all users on project-planning are on board@ list. (rbergeron, 15:15:35) * Sunset means - block new subs but leave archives etc. up (quaid, 15:15:55) * Upcoming Event Planning (rbergeron, 15:16:20) * chris wright noted on-list that FOSDEM has a track for cloud/virt-ish things, that may be an option. (rbergeron, 15:16:50) * SCALE CFP closes tomorrow, if anyone wants to present in SoCal in January. (rbergeron, 15:17:45) * ACTION: quaid can submit The General oVirt Talk to SCALE if no one else is going (quaid, 15:18:42) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/2011/11/01/workshop-underway-1-to-3-nov/ (quaid, 15:20:34) * ACTION: quaid, pmyers to add to events wiki page (rbergeron, 15:20:36) * Should consider adding a day track at FOSDEM, KVM Forum (rbergeron, 15:20:59) * ACTION: quaid to drive "The Standard Presentation" for oVirt and making it available onlist (rbergeron, 15:22:59) * iheim may have such a presentation available (rbergeron, 15:23:59) * Moving towards first release (rbergeron, 15:24:23) * ACTION: Markbaker to finalise with an update next week; still in meetings/discussion for estimations (rbergeron, 15:30:43) * ACTION: rbergeron to investigate table for FOSDEM, start figuring out deadlines for presetnations for various conferences (rbergeron, 15:33:49) * ACTION: pmyers to start release manager discussion onlist (rbergeron, 15:42:13) * ACTION: cctrieloff to take release date discussion to list (arch@ list, release manager discussion on arch@ list as well) (rbergeron, 15:42:39) * ACTION: mdday_ to work off-line to see if someone from IBM can do this (release manager) (rbergeron, 15:43:12) * Opening up mailing list(s) to non-subscriber posts (rbergeron, 15:43:48) * AGREED: add more moderators to help spread the load of approving mails nd see how it goes (rbergeron, 15:51:40) * ACTION: Infra team will continue to study spam filter solutions (quaid, 15:52:09) * ACTION: sgordon to ask lists for additional moderation volunteers (to arch@ list) (rbergeron, 15:53:06) * FTP / Repo Setup status (rbergeron, 15:53:42) * ACTION: quaid to ask someone from SUSE and Canonical to comment about the repo setup details (quaid, 15:55:26) * Final closing bits ... (quaid, 16:02:38) Meeting ended at 16:04:27 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rharper to ask on-list about the prospects of sending out a final draft of the press release to everyone. * cctrieloff has next action from cisco, and will follow up re: press release * cctrieloff to follow up with kerri on intel status * quaid to verify that all users on project-planning are on board@ list. * quaid can submit The General oVirt Talk to SCALE if no one else is going * quaid, pmyers to add to events wiki page * quaid to drive "The Standard Presentation" for oVirt and making it available onlist * Markbaker to finalise with an update next week; still in meetings/discussion for estimations * rbergeron to investigate table for FOSDEM, start figuring out deadlines for presetnations for various conferences * pmyers to start release manager discussion onlist * cctrieloff to take release date discussion to list (arch@ list, release manager discussion on arch@ list as well) * mdday_ to work off-line to see if someone from IBM can do this (release manager) * Infra team will continue to study spam filter solutions * sgordon to ask lists for additional moderation volunteers (to arch@ list) * quaid to ask someone from SUSE and Canonical to comment about the repo setup details Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cctrieloff * cctrieloff has next action from cisco, and will follow up re: press release * cctrieloff to follow up with kerri on intel status * cctrieloff to take release date discussion to list (arch@ list, release manager discussion on arch@ list as well) * mdday_ * mdday_ to work off-line to see if someone from IBM can do this (release manager) * pmyers * quaid, pmyers to add to events wiki page * pmyers to start release manager discussion onlist * quaid * quaid to verify that all users on project-planning are on board@ list. * quaid can submit The General oVirt Talk to SCALE if no one else is going * quaid, pmyers to add to events wiki page * quaid to drive "The Standard Presentation" for oVirt and making it available onlist * quaid to ask someone from SUSE and Canonical to comment about the repo setup details * rbergeron * rbergeron to investigate table for FOSDEM, start figuring out deadlines for presetnations for various conferences * rharper * rharper to ask on-list about the prospects of sending out a final draft of the press release to everyone. * sgordon * sgordon to ask lists for additional moderation volunteers (to arch@ list) * **UNASSIGNED** * Markbaker to finalise with an update next week; still in meetings/discussion for estimations * Infra team will continue to study spam filter solutions People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (160) * quaid (79) * cctrieloff (63) * pmyers (54) * sgordon (28) * MarkBaker (10) * agraf_ (9) * abaron_wfh (8) * mburns (6) * ovirtbot (6) * mdday_ (5) * dannf (5) * mestery (4) * rharper (4) * russellb (3) * jimjag (3) * bazulay (3) * itamar (2) * oschreib (2) * cdub (2) * smoser (2) * Yih (1) * smoser` (1) * aliguori (1) * gargya (1) * aglitke (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Users] About mix storage domains
by hotmail 16 Nov '11

16 Nov '11

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[Users] Compatible distros with ovirt?
by Dimitrije Zivkovic 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Hi, as vdsm is successfuly installed on Gentoo, I think it makes it compatible distro too....

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[Users] Web UI and new version of SPICE
by Dimitrije Zivkovic 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

Hi, A question about SPICE. I noticed that web UI has some options regarding spice protocol. While updating software tonight, spice was upgraded from v.0.8 to v.0.10. My question is how is UI aware of new features in spice? Is it developed for particular version/features of spice? If there is new feature in spice, can the same version of UI use this new features in some way or is the new version of UI required? This could be important as I update system frequently. If version change of spice could somehow influence UI behaviour, than the policy on daily update should be changed... :)

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[Users] oVirt features
by Dimitrije Zivkovic 14 Nov '11

14 Nov '11

Hi, I got oVirt up and running on my Gentoo server. What I would like to know is if there is some info page on current git version features of oVirt? For example, I would like to know what type of storage is supported as I could only see NFS type on webadmin. So am I doing something wrong or am I just blind? :) Also, if there is something I could help about related to Gentoo and oVirt, let me know...

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