November 2024 - Users - oVirt List Archives

upload image and novnc does not works after power failure
by hkicsi＠gmail.com 15 Nov '24

15 Nov '24

Hi, In my lab I use Oracle veriosn of ovirt. suddenly my power was out, and after that the iso upload and novnc stopped to cooperate. I had updated the browser certificate, and also checked the finderprints. The issue should somewhere deeper. I would like to understand how the certificate structure should work, how-to debug it further? Thanks hkicsi

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oVirt CLI tool for automation tasks
by munnadawood＠gmail.com 15 Nov '24

15 Nov '24

We recently migrated from VMware to oVirt. I am looking for any CLI tool well suited for my automation tasks like VM create, clone, migrate 100s of Virtual machines in oVirt cluster. with VMware I was using govc (vSphere CLI built on top of govmomi). Another option I read is powercli, quite unsure if it works with oVirt. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks!

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PowerShell module for oVirt
by itsavant＠gmail.com 14 Nov '24

14 Nov '24

Question to all: If there was a PowerShell module for oVirt, similar to PowerCli for VMware, how many would find that useful?

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hci, glusterfs, glusterfs mount shows old size after expanding volume (adding brick)
by Jiří Sléžka 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

Hello, I have 3 node HCI cluster (Rocky Linux 8, 4.5.7-0.master.20240415165511.git7238a3766d.el8). I had 2 SSD in each node, each as separate brick. Recently I added third SSD and expanded volume to 3 x 3 topology. Despite this, free space on volume was not changed. gluster volume info vms Volume Name: vms Type: Distributed-Replicate Volume ID: 52032ec6-99d4-4210-8fb8-ffbd7a1e0bf7 Status: Started Snapshot Count: 0 Number of Bricks: 3 x 3 = 9 Transport-type: tcp Bricks: Brick1: 10.0.4.11:/gluster_bricks/vms/vms Brick2: 10.0.4.13:/gluster_bricks/vms/vms Brick3: 10.0.4.12:/gluster_bricks/vms/vms Brick4: 10.0.4.11:/gluster_bricks/vms2/vms2 Brick5: 10.0.4.13:/gluster_bricks/vms2/vms2 Brick6: 10.0.4.12:/gluster_bricks/vms2/vms2 Brick7: 10.0.4.11:/gluster_bricks/vms3/vms3 Brick8: 10.0.4.12:/gluster_bricks/vms3/vms3 Brick9: 10.0.4.13:/gluster_bricks/vms3/vms3 Options Reconfigured: cluster.shd-max-threads: 1 performance.client-io-threads: off nfs.disable: on storage.fips-mode-rchecksum: on transport.address-family: inet storage.owner-uid: 36 storage.owner-gid: 36 features.shard: on performance.low-prio-threads: 32 performance.strict-o-direct: on network.remote-dio: off network.ping-timeout: 30 user.cifs: off performance.quick-read: off performance.read-ahead: off performance.io-cache: off cluster.eager-lock: enable performance.stat-prefetch: off cluster.granular-entry-heal: enable storage.health-check-interval: 0 df -h on all nodes looks the same ... 10.0.4.11:/engine 100G 23G 78G 23% /rhev/data-center/mnt/glusterSD/10.0.4.11:_engine 10.0.4.11:/vms 1.7T 773G 952G 45% /rhev/data-center/mnt/glusterSD/10.0.4.11:_vms ... /dev/mapper/gluster_vg_sdb-gluster_lv_engine 100G 22G 79G 22% /gluster_bricks/engine /dev/mapper/gluster_vg_sdb-gluster_lv_vms 794G 476G 319G 60% /gluster_bricks/vms /dev/mapper/gluster_vg_sdd-gluster_lv_vms2 930G 553G 378G 60% /gluster_bricks/vms2 /dev/mapper/gluster_vg_vms3-gluster_lv_vms3 932G 6.6G 925G 1% /gluster_bricks/vms3 ... size of mounted vms volume is reported as 1.7T which is old value (sum of two bricks - 794G + 930G). Correct size should be sum of all bricks - around 2.6T. what step I am missing? Cheers, Jiri

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Ceph-only storage for self-hosted engine
by Michael Thomas 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

I found this thread from last year that indicates it should be possible to use ceph rbd for the self-hosted engine: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/thread/4VG4AWPQ2FBYEU… In my new hosted-engine deployment, the hosted-engine --deploy menu only shows me options for: Please specify the storage you would like to use (glusterfs, iscsi, fc, nfs)[nfs]: Should I also see options for using ceph rbd, or do I need to start with nfs, and migrate the self-hosted engine to rbd after the initial setup is complete? --Mike

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Latest oVirt images
by Michael Thomas 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

tl;dr Where can I find a compatible set of host packages and hosted-engine image? What is the recommended combination to use for new installs? First, some background: I've been trying to get a new oVirt 4.5.5 install on Rocky 9 hosts using a hosted engine. My first few attempts failed because the engine image (ovirt-engine-appliance-4.5-20231201120201.1.el9) was still based on CentOS8-stream. Using --ansible-extra-vars=he_pause_before_engine_setup=true I was able to redirect the repos to vault.centos.org. This helped, but still failed when the engine tried to access the host: 2024-11-06 17:05:53,600-0600 DEBUG otopi.ovirt_hosted_engine_setup.ansible_utils ansible_utils._process_output:109 {'msg': 'Host is not up, please check logs, perhaps also on the engine machine', '_ansible_no_log': False, 'changed': False} 2024-11-06 17:05:53,700-0600 ERROR otopi.ovirt_hosted_engine_setup.ansible_utils ansible_utils._process_output:113 fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "msg": "Host is not up, please check logs, perhaps also on the engine machine"} ...and the logs on the engine throw a NetworkNotFoundError while trying to set up OVN: "stdout" : "fatal: [hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu] FAILED! => {\"changed\": true, \"cmd\": [\"vdsm-tool\", \"ovn-config\", \"10.110.115.21\", \"hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu\"], \"delta\": \"0:00:02.413890\", \"end\": \"2024-11-08 14:29:54.215138\", \"msg\": \"non-zero return code\", \"rc\": 1, \"start\": \"2024-11-08 14:29:51.801248\", \"stderr\": \"Traceback (most recent call last):\\n File \\\"/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 117, in get_network\\n return networks[net_name]\\nKeyError: 'hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu'\\n\\nDuring handling of the above exception, another exception o ccurred:\\n\\nTraceback (most recent call last):\\n File \\\"/usr/bin/vdsm-tool\\\", line 195, in main\\n return tool_command[cmd][\\\"command\\\"](*args)\\n File \\\"/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 63, in ovn_config\\n ip_address = get_ip_addr(get_network(network_caps(), net_name))\\n File \\\"/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 119, in get_network\\n raise NetworkNotFoundError(net_name)\\nvdsm.tool.ovn_config.NetworkNotFoundError: hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu\", \"stderr_lines\": [\"Traceback (most recent call last):\", \" File \\\"/usr/lib/python3. 9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 117, in get_network\", \" r eturn networks[net_name]\", \"KeyError: 'hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu'\", \"\", \"During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:\", \"\", \"Traceback (most recent call last):\", \" File \\\"/usr/bin/vdsm-tool\\\", line 195, in main\", \" return tool_command[cmd][\\\"command\\\"](*args)\", \" File \\\"/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 63, in ovn_config\", \" ip_address = get_ip_addr(get_network(network_caps(), net_name))\", \" File \\\"/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/vdsm/tool/ovn_config.py\\\", line 119, in get_network\", \" raise NetworkNotFoundError(net_name)\", \"vdsm.tool.ovn_config.NetworkNotFoundError: hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu\"], \"stdout\": \"\", \"stdout_lines\": []}", Ok, so then I think to myself that I should be using a newer engine image. I installed ovirt-engine-appliance-4.5-20240817071039.1.el9.x86_64.rpm and tried again. But of course that failed because the host and engine now have incompatible versions: [ ERROR ] fatal: [localhost]: FAILED! => {"changed": false, "msg": "The host has been set in non_operational status, deployment errors: code 154: Host hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu is compatible with versions (4.2,4.3,4.4,4.5,4.6,4.7) and cannot join Cluster CDS which is set to version 4.8., code 1110: Host hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu's following network(s) are not synchronized with their Logical Network configuration: ovirtmgmt., code 9000: Failed to verify Power Management configuration for Host hv1-mgmt.cds.ligo-la.caltech.edu., fix accordingly and re-deploy."} --Mike

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Re: [External] : oVirt slow backups from ISCSI storage domain to nfs target
by Don Dupuis 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

Marcos Yes I understand what you are saying and that is great for a 1Gbps network, I have a 200Gbps network and I am only getting 140MiB/sec. There is just something different with how the data is being read out of this storage system. Don On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 9:40 AM Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com> wrote: > Don, > > > > Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my previous e-mail. My comment about small disks > actually is about how much disk space you have currently in use, not the > virtual disk size. > > For example, I have a 200GB virtual disk VM with only 4,6 GB in use. It > takes about 40 sec to transfer the disk to an NFS share in my lab reaching > 128MiB/sec on a 1Gbps network connection. > > > > Marcos > > > > *From:* Don Dupuis <dondster(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2024 11:32 AM > *To:* Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com> > *Cc:* users <users(a)ovirt.org> > *Subject:* Re: [External] : [ovirt-users] oVirt slow backups from ISCSI > storage domain to nfs target > > > > Marcos, > > These are not small files, the files I am talking about are about 400GB or > bigger. If I do the same thing on another DE6000 with SAS disks, I don't > see this issue. Thin provisioned disks are ok on both storage systems, But > the 6600F has NVME interfaced SSDs and runs this slow on preallocated > disks. For the short term we are just going to go back to thin provisioned > as we can't get the backups to finish in the allocated time windows. > > > > Don > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 5:23 AM Marcos Sungaila < > marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com> wrote: > > Hi Don, > > > > When transferring small files to an NFS share, many times, they can fit > the in-memory cache, leading to high transfer rates. For bigger files, the > remote NFS storage will need to commit data to the disk once the cache is > filled. > > In general, it is common to see the initial data transfer at high numbers, > slowing down as the transfer continues. This behavior is not only with NFS > shares; you may face the same behavior using scp. > > Anyway, it is recommended that a transfer test be run using other methods > to confirm this is the cause. > > > > Marcos > > > > *From:* Don Dupuis <dondster(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2024 5:06 PM > *To:* users <users(a)ovirt.org> > *Subject:* [External] : [ovirt-users] oVirt slow backups from ISCSI > storage domain to nfs target > > > > Hi > > I am using oVirt 4.4.10.7 with vms on iscsi Lenovo DE-6600F(nvme > interfaced ssds). Backing up thin vms performance is fine, but with > preallocated disks, backups to nfs storage with 200Gb interface is only > transferring qcow2 image to nfs at 140MiB per sec. Why is qemu-nbd so slow > with preallocated images? Does anyone have any issues related to this? Any > help would be appreciated. I have made iscsid.conf changes, linux kernel > boot changes, and still the same performance. > > > > Thanks > > Don > >

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Re: [External] : oVirt slow backups from ISCSI storage domain to nfs target
by Don Dupuis 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

Marcos, These are not small files, the files I am talking about are about 400GB or bigger. If I do the same thing on another DE6000 with SAS disks, I don't see this issue. Thin provisioned disks are ok on both storage systems, But the 6600F has NVME interfaced SSDs and runs this slow on preallocated disks. For the short term we are just going to go back to thin provisioned as we can't get the backups to finish in the allocated time windows. Don On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 5:23 AM Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com> wrote: > Hi Don, > > > > When transferring small files to an NFS share, many times, they can fit > the in-memory cache, leading to high transfer rates. For bigger files, the > remote NFS storage will need to commit data to the disk once the cache is > filled. > > In general, it is common to see the initial data transfer at high numbers, > slowing down as the transfer continues. This behavior is not only with NFS > shares; you may face the same behavior using scp. > > Anyway, it is recommended that a transfer test be run using other methods > to confirm this is the cause. > > > > Marcos > > > > *From:* Don Dupuis <dondster(a)gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2024 5:06 PM > *To:* users <users(a)ovirt.org> > *Subject:* [External] : [ovirt-users] oVirt slow backups from ISCSI > storage domain to nfs target > > > > Hi > > I am using oVirt 4.4.10.7 with vms on iscsi Lenovo DE-6600F(nvme > interfaced ssds). Backing up thin vms performance is fine, but with > preallocated disks, backups to nfs storage with 200Gb interface is only > transferring qcow2 image to nfs at 140MiB per sec. Why is qemu-nbd so slow > with preallocated images? Does anyone have any issues related to this? Any > help would be appreciated. I have made iscsid.conf changes, linux kernel > boot changes, and still the same performance. > > > > Thanks > > Don >

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Re: [External] : open v-switch woes
by Marcos Sungaila 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

Rephrasing my last e-mail: Working with open vswitch at the ovirt infrastructure level is NOT an easy task. Marcos From: Marcos Sungaila via Users <users(a)ovirt.org> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 9:57 AM To: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com>; users(a)ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-users] Re: [External] : open v-switch woes Tim, Working with open vswitch at the ovirt infrastructure level is an easy task. Here you have some steps to start with it. Deploying an OVN enabled system have the following requirements: * Stand-alone Engine installed on a bare metal or a VM outside the ovirt cluster. Running SHE is not possible since the default cluster will use Linux bridges, not openvswitch * No extra packages are required * After the Engine is deployed, create a new cluster, set the switch type to OVS and the default network provider to ovirt-provider-ovn * Add a host to the new cluster, note that migrating a host from a Linux bridge cluster to OVS may fail and may require you to clean-up all network configuration before joining the host to the right cluster. * In the network menu, you will need to create an ovn network for each tagged vlan, as well as for the untagged network you may have * If you enable network port security, you will need to create security groups and security rules before any communication can happen between instances, and to/from external ips Marcos From: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mr_tim_walsh@hotmail.com>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:00 PM To: Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com<mailto:marcos.sungaila@oracle.com>>; users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Yes, not only a desire to replicate the functionality of V-Switches on VM-Ware, but also to have an isolated test environment. Create a virtual firewall (using Opensense or pfSense or something) and create VMs behind the firewall that can all talk to each other, but the firewall only passes out the application traffic (for example a web app on Nginx, or Remote Desktop to the private Environment). Microsoft Hyper-V has "private" and "internal" switches that can be set up, (and thats the case on either a standalone or a cluster) so I figured oVirt must have something similar if not the same. these may or may not necessarily be tagged to a VLAN on a physical switch. Thanks, Tim ________________________________ From: Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com<mailto:marcos.sungaila@oracle.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 4:22 PM To: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mr_tim_walsh@hotmail.com>>; users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> <users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>> Subject: RE: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Hey Tim, Deploying an OVN-enabled cluster is not that trivial. There are many caveats to make it run. Is there any special use case you need to address to use OVS/OVN? Marcos From: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mr_tim_walsh@hotmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 12:28 AM To: users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Hey community, I'm trying to get open v-switch set up to work like it does in VMware. I am running Rocky Linux 8.9 and oVirt 4.5.5 (el8) I got the repos but online feedback recommends installing openvswitch, and ovn-northd, ovn-central and ovn-host I got openvswitch installed, but the other three: ovn-northd, ovn-central and ovn-host seemt o be elusive even after adding the CentOS-Advanced-Virtualization.repo and uipdating all "CentOS-" repost to point to "vault" instead of "mirrorlist" Can someo0ne help me with what I'm missing? I've tried Bing CoPilot and ChatGPT LOL but they say add that repo and install those packages. Thanks, Tim

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Re: [External] : open v-switch woes
by Marcos Sungaila 11 Nov '24

11 Nov '24

Tim, Working with open vswitch at the ovirt infrastructure level is an easy task. Here you have some steps to start with it. Deploying an OVN enabled system have the following requirements: * Stand-alone Engine installed on a bare metal or a VM outside the ovirt cluster. Running SHE is not possible since the default cluster will use Linux bridges, not openvswitch * No extra packages are required * After the Engine is deployed, create a new cluster, set the switch type to OVS and the default network provider to ovirt-provider-ovn * Add a host to the new cluster, note that migrating a host from a Linux bridge cluster to OVS may fail and may require you to clean-up all network configuration before joining the host to the right cluster. * In the network menu, you will need to create an ovn network for each tagged vlan, as well as for the untagged network you may have * If you enable network port security, you will need to create security groups and security rules before any communication can happen between instances, and to/from external ips Marcos From: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 6:00 PM To: Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com>; users(a)ovirt.org Subject: Re: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Yes, not only a desire to replicate the functionality of V-Switches on VM-Ware, but also to have an isolated test environment. Create a virtual firewall (using Opensense or pfSense or something) and create VMs behind the firewall that can all talk to each other, but the firewall only passes out the application traffic (for example a web app on Nginx, or Remote Desktop to the private Environment). Microsoft Hyper-V has "private" and "internal" switches that can be set up, (and thats the case on either a standalone or a cluster) so I figured oVirt must have something similar if not the same. these may or may not necessarily be tagged to a VLAN on a physical switch. Thanks, Tim ________________________________ From: Marcos Sungaila <marcos.sungaila(a)oracle.com<mailto:marcos.sungaila@oracle.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 4:22 PM To: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mr_tim_walsh@hotmail.com>>; users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> <users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org>> Subject: RE: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Hey Tim, Deploying an OVN-enabled cluster is not that trivial. There are many caveats to make it run. Is there any special use case you need to address to use OVS/OVN? Marcos From: Tim Walsh <mr_tim_walsh(a)hotmail.com<mailto:mr_tim_walsh@hotmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2024 12:28 AM To: users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [External] : [ovirt-users] open v-switch woes Hey community, I'm trying to get open v-switch set up to work like it does in VMware. I am running Rocky Linux 8.9 and oVirt 4.5.5 (el8) I got the repos but online feedback recommends installing openvswitch, and ovn-northd, ovn-central and ovn-host I got openvswitch installed, but the other three: ovn-northd, ovn-central and ovn-host seemt o be elusive even after adding the CentOS-Advanced-Virtualization.repo and uipdating all "CentOS-" repost to point to "vault" instead of "mirrorlist" Can someo0ne help me with what I'm missing? I've tried Bing CoPilot and ChatGPT LOL but they say add that repo and install those packages. Thanks, Tim

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