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movirt -> ovirt 3.5.1 -> server error 500
by Markus Stockhausen 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-01931aef-0e79-4067-9583-6cee81c33885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=0A= =0A= just installed movirt on my mobile. Upon connection it breaks with the atta= ched error in the 3.5.1 engine server logs. =0A= =0A= Something I'm missing?=0A= =0A= Markus=0A= =0A= 2015-02-19 12:21:19,757 ERROR [org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.[jbos= s.web].[default-host].[/ovirt-engine/api]] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-11) Standar= dWrapper.Throwable: java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException:= Unable to instantiate MessageBodyWriter=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.providers.RegisterBuiltin.register(Re= gisterBuiltin.java:35) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.spi.ResteasyDeployment.start(ResteasyDeployme= nt.java:211) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.ServletContainerDispat= cher.init(ServletContainerDispatcher.java:67) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.j= ar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.HttpServletDispatcher.= init(HttpServletDispatcher.java:36) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.loadServlet(StandardWra= pper.java:1202) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapper.allocate(StandardWrappe= r.java:952) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWra= pperValve.java:188) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardCon= textValve.java:161) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(Authe= nticatorBase.java:489) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.as.web.security.SecurityContextAssociationValve.invoke= (SecurityContextAssociationValve.java:153) [jboss-as-web-7.1.1.Final.jar:7.= 1.1.Final]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostVa= lve.java:155) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportVa= lve.java:102) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.web.rewrite.RewriteValve.invoke(RewriteValve.java:466)= [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngi= neValve.java:109) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapte= r.java:368) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProcessor.process(AjpProcessor.java:505= ) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProtocol$AjpConnectionHandler.process(A= jpProtocol.java:445) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Worker.run(JIoEndpoint.ja= va:930) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]=0A= at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744) [rt.jar:1.7.0_55]=0A= Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to instantiate MessageBodyWri= ter=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.spi.ResteasyProviderFactory.registerProvider(= ResteasyProviderFactory.java:772) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.providers.RegisterBuiltin.registerPro= viders(RegisterBuiltin.java:70) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.providers.RegisterBuiltin.register(Re= gisterBuiltin.java:31) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= ... 18 more=0A= Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Failed to construct public org.ovirt= .engine.api.pdf.FOPMessageBodyWriter()=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.core.ConstructorInjectorImpl.construct(Constr= uctorInjectorImpl.java:144) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.spi.ResteasyProviderFactory.getProviderInstan= ce(ResteasyProviderFactory.java:1039) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.spi.ResteasyProviderFactory.addMessageBodyWri= ter(ResteasyProviderFactory.java:519) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= at org.jboss.resteasy.spi.ResteasyProviderFactory.registerProvider(= ResteasyProviderFactory.java:768) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]=0A= ... 20 more=0A= Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/fop/apps/FopFactory= =0A= ------=_NextPartTM-000-01931aef-0e79-4067-9583-6cee81c33885 Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" **************************************************************************** Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. 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Poor iSCSI Performance
by John Florian 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070002020309040609070902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I've been trying to resolve a storage performance issue but have had no luck in identifying the exact cause. I have my storage domain on iSCSI and I can get the expected performance (limited by the Gbit Ethernet) when running bonnie++ on: * a regular physical machine configured with the iSCSI initiator connected to a dedicated iSCSI test target -- thus oVirt and VM technology are completely out of the picture * my oVirt host with the initiator connected to that same dedicated target -- thus I have an iSCSI connection on the oVirt host but I'm not using the iSCSI connection provided by oVirt's storage domain * a VM (hosted by oVirt) with the initiator (inside the VM) connected to that target -- thus bypassing oVirt's storage domain and the virtual disk it provides this VM However, if I just use a regular virtual disk via oVirt's storage domain the performance is much worse. I've tried both VirtIO and VirtIO-SCSI and have found no appreciable difference. Here's a typical example of the poor performance I get (as tested with bonnie++) with the normal virtual disk setup: # bonnie++ -d . -r 2048 -u root:root <snip> Version 1.96 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP narvi-f21.double 4G 806 91 18507 1 15675 1 3174 56 33175 1 176.4 3 Latency 15533us 8142ms 2440ms 262ms 1289ms 780ms Version 1.96 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- narvi-f21.doubledog -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 13641 24 +++++ +++ 22702 17 18919 31 +++++ +++ +++++ +++ Latency 27724us 247us 292us 71us 30us 172us For comparison, here's what I see if I run the same test, same VM, same host but this time the file system is mounted from a device obtained using iscsi-initiator-utils within the VM, i.e., the 3rd bullet config above: bonnie++ -d . -r 2048 -u root:root <snip> Version 1.96 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random- Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks-- Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP narvi-f21.double 4G 2051 89 103877 4 36286 3 4803 88 88166 4 163.6 3 Latency 7724us 191ms 396ms 48734us 73004us 1645ms Version 1.96 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create-------- narvi-f21.doubledog -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP 16 6531 18 +++++ +++ 16388 20 5924 15 +++++ +++ 17906 23 Latency 15623us 64us 92us 1281us 14us 256us My host is Fedora 20 running oVirt 3.5 (hosted-engine). VM is running Fedora Server 21. Tonight I tried updating the host with the Fedora virt preview repo and I didn't see any significant change in the performance. Where should I look next? --------------070002020309040609070902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi all, I've been trying to resolve a storage performance issue but have had no luck in identifying the exact cause. I have my storage domain on iSCSI and I can get the expected performance (limited by the Gbit Ethernet) when running bonnie++ on: <ul> <li>a regular physical machine configured with the iSCSI initiator connected to a dedicated iSCSI test target -- thus oVirt and VM technology are completely out of the picture </li> <li>my oVirt host with the initiator connected to that same dedicated target -- thus I have an iSCSI connection on the oVirt host but I'm not using the iSCSI connection provided by oVirt's storage domain </li> <li>a VM (hosted by oVirt) with the initiator (inside the VM) connected to that target -- thus bypassing oVirt's storage domain and the virtual disk it provides this VM</li> </ul> However, if I just use a regular virtual disk via oVirt's storage domain the performance is much worse. I've tried both VirtIO and VirtIO-SCSI and have found no appreciable difference. Here's a typical example of the poor performance I get (as tested with bonnie++) with the normal virtual disk setup: <tt># bonnie++ -d . -r 2048 -u root:root <snip> Version 1.96 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP</tt><tt> </tt><tt>narvi-f21.double 4G 806 91 18507 1 15675 1 3174 56 33175 1 176.4 3</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Latency 15533us 8142ms 2440ms 262ms 1289ms 780ms</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Version 1.96 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------</tt><tt> </tt><tt>narvi-f21.doubledog -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--</tt><tt> </tt><tt> files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP</tt><tt> </tt><tt> 16 13641 24 +++++ +++ 22702 17 18919 31 +++++ +++ +++++ +++</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Latency 27724us 247us 292us 71us 30us 172us</tt> For comparison, here's what I see if I run the same test, same VM, same host but this time the file system is mounted from a device obtained using iscsi-initiator-utils within the VM, i.e., the 3rd bullet config above: <tt>bonnie++ -d . -r 2048 -u root:root</tt><tt> </tt><tt><snip></tt><tt> </tt><tt>Version 1.96 ------Sequential Output------ --Sequential Input- --Random-</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Machine Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP /sec %CP</tt><tt> </tt><tt>narvi-f21.double 4G 2051 89 103877 4 36286 3 4803 88 88166 4 163.6 3</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Latency 7724us 191ms 396ms 48734us 73004us 1645ms</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Version 1.96 ------Sequential Create------ --------Random Create--------</tt><tt> </tt><tt>narvi-f21.doubledog -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--</tt><tt> </tt><tt> files /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP</tt><tt> </tt><tt> 16 6531 18 +++++ +++ 16388 20 5924 15 +++++ +++ 17906 23</tt><tt> </tt><tt>Latency 15623us 64us 92us 1281us 14us 256us</tt> My host is Fedora 20 running oVirt 3.5 (hosted-engine). VM is running Fedora Server 21. Tonight I tried updating the host with the Fedora virt preview repo and I didn't see any significant change in the performance. Where should I look next? </body> </html> --------------070002020309040609070902--

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How long do your migrations last?
by Nicolas Ecarnot 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

Hello list, Our storage domains are iSCSI on dedicated network, and when migrating VMs, the duration varies according to the size of the vDisks. The smallest VMs are migrated in about 20 seconds, while the biggest one may take more than 5 or 10 minutes. The average duration is 90 seconds. Questions : 1- Though I may have understood that the task of migration was made by the SPM, I don't know what it actually does? (which bytes goes where) 2- Do our times sound OK, or does it look like improvable? 3- What bottleneck should I investigate? I'm thinking about the dedicated hardware NICs setup of the hosts, the SAN, the MTU has already been setup at 9000... Any ideas welcomed. -- Nicolas Ecarnot

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Where do you run oVirt?
by Sandro Bonazzola 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

Hi, As we continue developing oVirt 3.6 and future releases of oVirt, the development and integration team are seeking input from users on how oVirt is being run and on what platforms. We would appreciate you help by taking this quick survey! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1u-YccuNRza4_WmS5VMdy0mEkXuKxt4lzrALKKcnEMB… Thanks, -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com

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Re: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup
by Donny D 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

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how to prepare for an engine re-install
by Robert Story 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

--Sig_/9FfbJVEsL_QD6_U8ceRqc4+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running ovirt (engine 3.4.0-1.el6) on a dedicated engine machine with a degraded raid array. This has caused the root filesystem to go read-only, and the engine crashed. I can restart the engine, but after doing so, the web page just loads a blank page. All nodes and VMs seem to be fine, I just can't manage them via oVirt. Because I'm offsite, my recovery option is likely limited to a reinstall of the OS and ovirt. I'm hoping for some pointers on what I can do in advance to minimize the pain of this transition.=20 - Am I going to be able to recover without having to shut down VMs, exporting and importing? - what directories should I back up? - when I reinstall, should I upgrade and install 3.5.1, or first install 3.4, get it working, and then think about upgrading? - Is it possible/recommended/crazy to migrate to a hosted engine instead of a dedicated machine? So I want to prepare for the worst before I try a reboot. If I'm lucky, the reboot will at least come up with a writable filesystem, and I won't need to re-install. If it doesn't come up, I want to be as ready as possible for the reinstall. Any hints and/or tips appreciated.. (I'll also be hanging out in the irc channel if anyone wants to respond in that venue..) Robert --=20 Senior Software Engineer @ Parsons --Sig_/9FfbJVEsL_QD6_U8ceRqc4+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU5KvuAAoJEMHFVuy5l8Y48rwQAKbV/omCGFyztV/QDBF+T4qX ZtI7+j263nisA38eN7XHbfdfvEux00rqYMy9n7e+IPmsvbMIdPqps9BO9iH7fFjx 7ZtkMqyhKEju6vCiIwdWi3/KWPAhfufQvPXGOqMdgro2tim6yC1cwWQS/bAVexKh RnvntPo3WAdDdE986OdQ4JofJQqUwKAde7oPEWMjhbzx4Mxb/NSq7ExhyfWj0+wh 2iWqEEQLs2KaSOSzaqbXjIoJhxVmQPxToKdUxs1hmAhB4X/lFdIRkSY/x7SMhrKV eDB+4vd55saNz5dPfNSokQ1tTFR7z4iRkOEh5knKlRJwNdrabm+oIwrtrUbR4BX+ L0sHdB12x08aM2aio1OzY5xMLhpJSD/YiAfXs8oCPtHRbYrO2HyvOjilktY4azeO bZkCard2zxUO+UVWOEllcrXVpEgYRMlaCwhs1vsEI0mArpe0Ip9zEGYVN3IgHR6w sKrWi9u2JueqTiJOmuvGwE4EEsYKW4KRId6r1sS16neWAcbuBLjLMVzZkZ7pET5j hoERFPonAURGz1wXUuW8xK/hpZJ4xW71QpqKQfs86rwP1rIMnw3KaFqtf0AFUEPs LTKT44ibC6DNMNj3g3Kdj0iUW6/IM5xRL9QZ4exKipEyJxPf2Er6SZoYC2HffKfo gqTOxAdaa3bCVIn19Zro =ife/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9FfbJVEsL_QD6_U8ceRqc4+--

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ovirt and glusterfs setup
by Bill Dossett 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

--_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771A364013BR1MPN1012MG_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm in at the deep end... Looking for some advice on if this is possible - and what version I should = try I with if so. We are a heavily VMware oriented company... but I am trying to get RHEV/oVi= rt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oVirt, but if they insist on enter= prise support I go to Redhat. So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how it works. I am trying t= o more or less replicate this setup using open source. So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddisks as the storage medi= um as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is quite high as you put at least= 1 SSD in each node. What is nice is you don't have the NAS element here. VMs are on the local = storage, which is partially SSD, so performance is quite good. I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage and GlusterFS and basical= ly this acts as a big software defined NAS which does some pretty cool thin= gs, but that's not exactly what I need. I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS Oss... that have local storage= in them that is distributed and redundant in the event of a node failure. And I probably need to try and build this in a lab under Fusion on my Mac B= ook pro to begin with anyway (that bit I'm farily confident with) and if I = get that working can probably get some older kit to try it out for real as = a PoC to few people. So, I've set up oVirt before that should be ok, I haven't setup Gluster is = there any documents that would help me down this road and make sure I start= out using the best version. Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received. 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Re: [ovirt-users] FW: ovirt and glusterfs setup
by Donny D 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

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FW: ovirt and glusterfs setup
by Bill Dossett 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

--_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771B72A013BR1MPN1012MG_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, forgot to copyall... From: Bill Dossett s Sent: 18 February 2015 17:37 To: 'Donny Davis' Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup Well, it seems to be something that RedHat were saying was going to be supp= orted. I am far more familiar with VMware VSAN and that is current a VERY hot topi= c. With VMware HA and VSAN capabilities and new chassis coming out with very h= igh density drive capabilities and the correct number of nodes, you can los= e a node with no more downtime than if compute and storage are separated an= d it's a helluva lot less expensive than traditional Fibre SAN. Saying that it is in it's infancy. I'm interested in your ovirt deployment - thanks for the kind offer - but v= ery short on time as well as this is a side project - so this may move at a= snails pace... so I thought I could get started on my own. I think I instaslled ovirt 3.2 previously... and I did see mention of Glust= er Domains. If you let me know what I need to do to have a look at your de= ployment I would appreciate it. I may be slow at responding though as I am spread very thin right now. Thanks Bill From: Donny Davis [mailto:donny@cloudspin.me] Sent: 18 February 2015 13:30 To: Bill Dossett Subject: RE: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup I can tell you from my experience that you should have your storage and com= pute node separate. Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need = to make sure when setting up your engine you tell it to be [both] The architecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to = be a disaster. That is my matter of opinion based on my experience. I have a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup= on. Donny D cloudspin.me From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org> [mailto:users= -bounces(a)ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dossett Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM To: users(a)ovirt.org<mailto:users@ovirt.org> Subject: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup Hi, I'm in at the deep end... Looking for some advice on if this is possible - and what version I should = try I with if so. We are a heavily VMware oriented company... but I am trying to get RHEV/oVi= rt in the door. Honestly I would prefer oVirt, but if they insist on enter= prise support I go to Redhat. So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how it works. I am trying t= o more or less replicate this setup using open source. So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddisks as the storage medi= um as a virtual SAN. The SAN performance is quite high as you put at least= 1 SSD in each node. What is nice is you don't have the NAS element here. VMs are on the local = storage, which is partially SSD, so performance is quite good. I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage and GlusterFS and basical= ly this acts as a big software defined NAS which does some pretty cool thin= gs, but that's not exactly what I need. I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS Oss... that have local storage= in them that is distributed and redundant in the event of a node failure. And I probably need to try and build this in a lab under Fusion on my Mac B= ook pro to begin with anyway (that bit I'm farily confident with) and if I = get that working can probably get some older kit to try it out for real as = a PoC to few people. So, I've set up oVirt before that should be ok, I haven't setup Gluster is = there any documents that would help me down this road and make sure I start= out using the best version. Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received. Thanks Bill Dossett Systems Architect Tech Central - Global Engineering Services T +44 (0)1923 279353 M +44 (0)777 590 8612 b<mailto:jeff.gonzalez@pb.com>ill.dossett(a)pb.com<mailto:ill.dossett@pb.com> pitneybowes.com Pitney Bowes 6 Hercules Way | Leavesden | WD25 7GS | UK Learn more about Global Engineering Services<http://teamsite.inside.pb.com/= sites/TCPPM/GES/SitePages/Home.aspx> In Engineering? 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Gluster support is built into ovirt, and you just need to make= sure when setting up your engine you tell it to be [both]<o:p></o:p> <o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p> The arc= hitecture you describe whether it be vmware or ovirt is destined to be a di= saster.  That is my matter of opinion based on my experience.  <o= :p></o:p> <o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p> I have = a free to use ovirt deployment that you could run your desired setup on. <o:p></o:p> <o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p> Donny D= <o:p></o:p> <o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p> cloudsp= in.me <o:p></o:p> <o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> From: <a href=3D"mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">users-bounces(a)ovirt.org</a> [<a = href=3D"mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org">mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org</a>] On Behalf Of Bill Dossett Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:33 AM To: <a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org">users(a)ovirt.org</a> Subject: [ovirt-users] ovirt and glusterfs setup<o:p></o:p></= p> </div> </div> <o:p> </o:p> Hi,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I’m in at the deep end…<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Looking for some advice on if this is possible &#821= 1; and what version I should try I with if so.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> We are a heavily VMware oriented company… but = I am trying to get RHEV/oVirt in the door.  Honestly I would prefer oV= irt, but if they insist on enterprise support I go to Redhat.<o:p></o:p></p= > <o:p> </o:p> So I have had a play with VMware VSAN and know how i= t works.  I am trying to more or less replicate this setup using open = source.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So VSAN uses 3 or more ESXi nodes, with local harddi= sks as the storage medium as a virtual SAN.  The SAN performance is qu= ite high as you put at least 1 SSD in each node.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> What is nice is you don’t have the NAS element= here.  VMs are on the local storage, which is partially SSD, so perfo= rmance is quite good.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I went to a Redhat presentation on Redhat storage an= d GlusterFS and basically this acts as a big software defined NAS which doe= s some pretty cool things, but that’s not exactly what I need.<o:p></= o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I would like to build oVirt on top of CentOS Oss&#82= 30; that have local storage in them that is distributed and redundant in th= e event of a node failure.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> And I probably need to try and build this in a lab u= nder Fusion on my Mac Book pro to begin with anyway (that bit I’m far= ily confident with) and if I get that working can probably get some older k= it to try it out for real as a PoC to few people.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> So, I’ve set up oVirt before that should be ok= , I haven’t setup Gluster is there any documents that would help me d= own this road and make sure I start out using the best version.<o:p></o:p><= /p> <o:p> </o:p> Any advice or pointers would be gratefully received.= <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thanks<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt"> <tbody> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> Bill Dossett<= o:p></o:p> Systems Architect<o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> Tech Central – Global Engineerin= g Services<o:p></o:p>  <o:p><= /o:p> T +44 (= 0)1923 279353<o:p></o:p> M +44 (= 0)777 590 8612<o:p></o:p> <a href=3D"mailto:jeff.gonzalez@pb.com">b</a><a href=3D"mailto:ill.dos= sett(a)pb.com">ill.dossett(a)pb.com</a></span= ><o:p></o:p> <a href=3D"pitneybowes.com"= >pitneybowes.com</a><o:p></o:p>= Pitney Bowes<o:p></o:p> 6 Hercules Way | Leavesden | WD25 7GS | U= K<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"></td> </tr> <tr> <td width=3D"640" style=3D"width:480.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <a href=3D"http://teamsite.= inside.pb.com/sites/TCPPM/GES/SitePages/Home.aspx">Learn more about Global Engineering Services</a><o:p></= o:p>  </= span><o:p></o:p> In Engin= eering?<o:p></o:p> Raise a ticket via Remedy Anywhere [<s= pan style=3D"color:#0082D5"><a href=3D"teamsite.inside.pb.com/sites/TCPPM/G= ES/Lists/Create%20Incident/newIncident.aspx">= HERE</a>] takes less than a minute<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> CloudForms User Guide available=  [<a href=3D"https://d= l.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6219441/ManageIQ%20-%20User%20Manual%20PB%20v5.p= df">HERE</a>]<o:p></= o:p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span= style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","se= rif""> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"> </div> <o:p> </o:p> </div> <hr> </body> </html> --_000_B47F00825D68444ABC037330782753603771B72A013BR1MPN1012MG_--

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2015-01-21
by Yaniv Dary 18 Feb '15

18 Feb '15

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2015/ovirt.2015-01-21-15.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2015/ovirt.2015-01-21-15.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2015/ovirt.2015-01-21-15.01.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by ydary_ at 15:01:35 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2015/ovirt.2015-01-21-15.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda and roll Call (ydary_, 15:03:56) * infra update (ydary_, 15:04:15) * 3.5.z updates (ydary_, 15:04:16) * 3.6.0 status (ydary_, 15:04:16) * conferences and workshops (ydary_, 15:04:16) * other topics (ydary_, 15:04:16) * infra update (ydary_, 15:04:40) * sbonazzo resolved kernel based issues in some of the jobs. (doron, 15:13:12) * the teams need to start working\testing JDK 8, since JDK 7 EOL is in April 2015 (ydary_, 15:14:45) * some jenkins slaves had issues on running out of entropy, solved by installing haveged (ydary_, 15:16:21) * 3.6 memory errors in gwt resolved by vszocs (ydary_, 15:17:38) * progress in moving oVirt resources to phx lab (ydary_, 15:18:47) * ACTION: eedri to follow up on nightly issues with lvernia (ydary_, 15:20:28) * 3.5.z updates (ydary_, 15:08:07) * 3.5.1 to be released today. (ydary_, 15:22:42) * ACTION: please fill release notes, the page has been created here http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes (ydary_, 15:23:19) * all open bugs on 3.5.1 will be re-targeted to 3.5.2 post the GA release (ydary_, 15:25:12) * 3.6 status (ydary_, 15:25:35) * 3.6.0 currently shows no blockers. There are 502 bugs targeted to 3.6.0. (ydary_, 15:26:55) * integration update on 3.6.0: added glusterfs support on hosted engine (for existing replica 3 gluster storage) (ydary_, 15:27:43) * integration update on 3.6.0: jboss-as 7.1 doesn't work at all with jdk 1.8 so for supporting fc21 we need to move to wildfly (ydary_, 15:30:36) * ACTION: oved to report next week on JDK 1.8 and wildfly status (ydary_, 15:32:42) * Host Network QoS and MAC pool per DC are in. Once 3.6 clusters can be created, it will be available. (ydary_, 15:35:38) * network 3.6 updates: currently nothing at risk. (ydary_, 15:36:23) * ceph-cinder integration have WIP patches. (ydary_, 15:38:34) * storage 3.6 updates: minor RFEs also making progress (ydary_, 15:39:05) * node 3.6 updates: currently no updates (ydary_, 15:41:42) * UX 3.6 updates: UI over REST api and tool tip infrastructure over patternfly making progress (ydary_, 15:44:44) * SLA 3.6 updates: SLA still in planning, no further updates. (ydary_, 15:45:46) * virt 3.6 updates: no one for virt team to update (ydary_, 15:47:18) * conferences and workshops (ydary_, 15:47:43) * conferences and workshops FOSDEM is a go. Booth schedules and talks are here at http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-fosdem-15 (ydary_, 15:50:33) * conferences and workshops After taking a quick poll, the FOSDEM social meetup will be Sat., Jan. 31, at 2030 in the Au Bon Vieux Temps, (ydary_, 15:50:33) * conferences and workshops The half-day workshop for FOSSAsia in Singapore is getting planned. The Korea user group has responded with interest now. (ydary_, 15:52:08) * conferences and workshops amureini will be giving a talk at DevConfCZ in Feb, after FOSDEM (ydary_, 15:52:08) * conferences and workshops oVCirt will have a very strong presense at SCALE 13X in LA this year. (ydary_, 15:52:08) * conferences and workshops sbonazzo and tirsboschi_ may be at 11th Intl. Conf. on Open Source Systems http://www.oss2015.org (ydary_, 15:52:08) * conferences and workshops As a general reminder: if you *ever* need slides for an oVirt presentation, there are many to choose from here: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Slide_Decks They are all under CC license. (ydary_, 15:52:09) * other topics (ydary_, 15:52:36) * mskrivanek and tjelinek have approached me to start the process for launching moVirt as an incubator project within oVirt. This will be a mobile app that will enable users to manage oVirt on the go. This will likely supercede the Nomad project, which has not moved forward in years. We may need to retire the Nomad incubator. (ydary_, 15:56:23) * ACTION: bkp to looking into setting up an oVirt account in the Google Play store now, as well as checking trademarks, if any, for moVirt. (ydary_, 15:56:58) * bkp will have meeting with designers at FOSDEM to discuss the revamp of ovirt.org for 2015. (ydary_, 15:57:48) * bkp updates that in 2015, there will be a stronger focus on what it takes to get new users to oVirt to the final production stage. I will be holding meetings with other FOSS project community leads to build a map for this process. (ydary_, 15:58:18) * bkp updates that in 2015, there will be a stronger focus on what it takes to get new users to oVirt to the final production stage. he will be holding meetings with other FOSS project community leads to build a map for this process. (ydary_, 15:58:47) Meeting ended at 16:00:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * eedri to follow up on nightly issues with lvernia * please fill release notes, the page has been created here http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes * oved to report next week on JDK 1.8 and wildfly status * bkp to looking into setting up an oVirt account in the Google Play store now, as well as checking trademarks, if any, for moVirt. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bkp * bkp to looking into setting up an oVirt account in the Google Play store now, as well as checking trademarks, if any, for moVirt. * eedri * eedri to follow up on nightly issues with lvernia * lvernia * eedri to follow up on nightly issues with lvernia * **UNASSIGNED** * please fill release notes, the page has been created here http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes * oved to report next week on JDK 1.8 and wildfly status People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * ydary_ (90) * doron (29) * bkp (28) * eedri (25) * lvernia (22) * sbonazzo (22) * awels (5) * amureini (5) * ovirtbot (2) * fabiand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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