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[Users] Unable to access remote console in User portal from IE/Windows7
by nasir nasir 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

---730330825-1920134809-1354035217=:5004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,=0A=0AI have been experimenting with Ovirt 3.1 and so far most of th= e things work. Many thanks indeed for this great free software! Now I am fa= cing an issue for accessing the remote console in User Portal from windows = 7 client using IE9. I am able to login to the User Portal and access the VM= using the console button from Linux. But while I try the same from a windo= ws 7 machine, it is NOT working. When I click on the console button, it doe= sn't pop any window or show anything. Some of the docs I read says that for= the first time, I would be greeted with an ActiveX warning and can install= the same to get the console. But I didnt get anything of that kind. So my = questions to you all are,=0A=0A-- Is User Portal and Console supported on W= indows platform ?=0A-- If supported, is there anything =A0needed to be inst= alled on the Windows machine from which I am trying to access the User Port= al ?( I did install spice-guest-tools-0.exe on both VM and the Windows mach= ine I am trying to access the User Portal)=0A-- If not supported, what is t= he recommended way of accessing VMs from windows clients ? I understand tha= t the firefox spice-xpi plugin is only for Linux.=0A=0ARelevant info,=0A=0A= --OS : CentOS 6.3 64 bit=0A--=A0ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone-3.1.0-3.= 28.el6.noarch.rpm (Actually I used the repo from=A0http://www.dreyou.org/ov= irt/=A0, )=0A-- Client from which I am trying to access: Windows 7 (32bit),= IE 9=0A=0AAny reply would be highly appreciated and I would be more than h= appy to send any further details if needed. I searched a lot for any releva= nt docs for the same but could not find anything.=A0=0A=0AThanks and regard= s,=0ANasir=0A ---730330825-1920134809-1354035217=:5004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti= mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hi All,</div><di= v><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family= : 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparen= t; font-style: normal; ">I have been experimenting with Ovirt 3.1 and so fa= r most of the things work. Many thanks indeed for this great free software!= Now I am facing an issue for accessing the remote console in User Portal f= rom windows 7 client using IE9. I am able to login to the User Portal and a= ccess the VM using the console button from Linux. But while I try the same = from a windows 7 machine, it is NOT working. When I click on the console bu= tton, it doesn't pop any window or show anything. Some of the docs I read s= ays that for the first time, I would be greeted with an ActiveX warning and= can install the same to get the console. But I didnt get anything of that kind. So my questions to you all are,</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0= , 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times= , serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><di= v style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new ro= man', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: = normal; ">-- Is User Portal and Console supported on Windows platform ?</di= v><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times n= ew roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-st= yle: normal; ">-- If supported, is there anything  needed to be instal= led on the Windows machine from which I am trying to access the User Portal= ?( I did install spice-guest-tools-0.exe on both VM and the Windows machin= e I am trying to access the User Portal)</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0= , 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">-- If not supp= orted, what is the recommended way of accessing VMs from windows clients ? = I understand that the firefox spice-xpi plugin is only for Linux.</div><div= style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new rom= an', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: n= ormal; "><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font= -family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: tra= nsparent; font-style: normal; ">Relevant info,</div><div style=3D"color: rg= b(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', ti= mes, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div>= <div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new= roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-styl= e: normal; ">--OS : CentOS 6.3 64 bit</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0= ); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;= background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">-- ovirt-engine-= setup-plugin-allinone-3.1.0-3.28.el6.noarch.rpm (Actually I used the repo f= rom <a href=3D"http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/" style=3D"font-size: 12pt;= ">http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/</a> , )</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(= 0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', time= s, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">-- Client fr= om which I am trying to access: Windows 7 (32bit), IE 9</div><div style=3D"= color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new = york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><= br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: '= times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; = font-style: normal; ">Any reply would be highly appreciated and I would be more than happy to send any further details if needed. I searched a lot fo= r any relevant docs for the same but could not find anything. </div><d= iv style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new r= oman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:= normal; "><br></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; fo= nt-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: t= ransparent; font-style: normal; ">Thanks and regards,</div><div style=3D"co= lor: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new yo= rk', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Nas= ir</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 't= imes new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; f= ont-style: normal; "><br></div></div></body></html> ---730330825-1920134809-1354035217=:5004--

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[Users] Native USB redirection does not work - (remote-viewer) did not claim interface 0 before use
by Sigbjorn Lie 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Hi, I receive the following errors when I attempt to use native USB redirection in RHEV 3.1 beta. It's a smart card reader I am attempting to redirect into a virtual Windows 7 x64 machine. Is this a known error? I've also posted this message to the spice-devel list. Not sure which list is the correct list for this issue. Regards, Siggi Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found, idVendor=076b, idProduct=3021 Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: Product: Smart Card Reader USB Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: OMNIKEY AG Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Nov 28 12:16:31 workstation pcscd: hotplug_libhal.c:342:HPAddDevice() Adding USB device: usb_device_76b_3021_noserial_if0 Nov 28 12:16:32 workstation pcscd: readerfactory.c:1024:RFInitializeReader() Attempting startup of Generic CCID Reader 00 00 using /usr/lib64/pcsc/drivers/openct-ifd.bundle/Contents/Linux/openct-ifd.so Nov 28 12:16:32 workstation pcscd: readerfactory.c:846:RFBindFunctions() Loading IFD Handler 2.0 Nov 28 12:16:32 workstation pcscd: readerfactory.c:249:RFAddReader() Using the pcscd polling thread Nov 28 12:16:42 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Nov 28 12:16:42 workstation spice: libusb:warning [op_reset_device] failed to re-claim interface 0 after reset Nov 28 12:16:42 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:43 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Nov 28 12:16:43 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: libusb:error [submit_bulk_transfer] submiturb failed error -1 errno=16 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: (remote-viewer:5630): GSpice-CRITICAL **: usbredirhost error: submitting bulk transfer on ep 05: -1 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5630 (remote-viewer) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: libusb:error [submit_bulk_transfer] submiturb failed error -1 errno=16 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: (remote-viewer:5630): GSpice-CRITICAL **: usbredirhost error: submitting bulk transfer on ep 05: -1 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5630 (remote-viewer) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: libusb:error [submit_bulk_transfer] submiturb failed error -1 errno=16 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation spice: (remote-viewer:5630): GSpice-CRITICAL **: usbredirhost error: submitting bulk transfer on ep 05: -1 Nov 28 12:16:44 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5630 (remote-viewer) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:48 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Nov 28 12:16:48 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:48 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: reset full speed USB device number 4 using ohci_hcd Nov 28 12:16:48 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:55 workstation pcscd: eventhandler.c:429:EHStatusHandlerThread() Card inserted into Generic CCID Reader 00 00 Nov 28 12:16:55 workstation pcscd: eventhandler.c:443:EHStatusHandlerThread() Error powering up card. Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation spice: Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation spice: (remote-viewer:5630): GSpice-CRITICAL **: usbredirhost error: could not set active configuration to 0: -6 Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbfs while 'remote-viewer' sets config #0 Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:16:57 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:58 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:16:58 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:16:58 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:16:59 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:16:59 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:16:59 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:00 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:00 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:00 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:01 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:01 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:01 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:02 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:02 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:02 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:03 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:03 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:03 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:04 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:04 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:04 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:05 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:05 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:05 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:06 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:06 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:06 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:07 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:07 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5 Nov 28 12:17:07 workstation kernel: usb 3-2: usbfs: process 5789 (ifdhandler) did not claim interface 0 before use Nov 28 12:17:08 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: usb_submiturb failed: Device or resource busy Nov 28 12:17:08 workstation ifdhandler[5789]: ccid: begin capture: -5

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[Users] Debian VM.
by victor nunes 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Hello everyone. After installing debian as virtual machine during the boot I got the following error: Loadin Linux 2.6.32-5-686 .... unaligned pointer 0x8ef20002 Aborted. Press and key to exit. In research, I found that this error is a problem of KVM. In such cases, there is something that can be done? -- “Encarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece um futuro indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece um passado deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu início se apresenta do mesmo modo que as coisas quando as olhamos através de um binóculo usado ao contrário; mas, ao seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual são vistas quando o binóculo é usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e vivido bastante para perceber como a vida é curta”. (Poema de Arthur Schopenhauer)

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[Users] Recovering VMs when the engine is lost
by Joern Ott 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

--_000_D05C1D04061DE64AA1AE65E2D40211EE3A51FBD5AMXPRD0610MB378_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody, I managed to re-install the server the oVirt engine was running on in my te= stlab. All the cpu and storages are still there and the VMs are still runni= ng without problems. Is there a way, I can attach the still existing nodes = to the new oVirt engine and recover/import the VMs? Alternatively, is there a way, I can import the VMs disks? I still know how= the data center and clusters were set up and the specs for the VMs are als= o documented, so I'd like to re-attach the disks, which would save me some = time compared to the re-installs. Kind regards J=F6rn --_000_D05C1D04061DE64AA1AE65E2D40211EE3A51FBD5AMXPRD0610MB378_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-= 1"> <meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"> <style></style> </head> <body lang=3D"DE" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello everybody,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I managed to re-install the ser= ver the oVirt engine was running on in my testlab. All the cpu and storages= are still there and the VMs are still running without problems. Is there a= way, I can attach the still existing nodes to the new oVirt engine and recover/import the VMs?<o:p></o:p></span= ></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Alternatively, is there a way, = I can import the VMs disks? I still know how the data center and clusters w= ere set up and the specs for the VMs are also documented, so I’d like= to re-attach the disks, which would save me some time compared to the re-installs.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">J=F6rn</span><span lang=3D"EN-U= S" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_D05C1D04061DE64AA1AE65E2D40211EE3A51FBD5AMXPRD0610MB378_--

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[Users] can't start latest beta ovirt
by Cristian Falcas 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Hi all, i can't start the ovirt engine anymore. The error is: Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit. It seems that the error appears when the parameter -XX:+UseCompressedOops is set. If I run the java command wothour it, the program starts. java -version java version "1.7.0_09-icedtea" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (fedora-2.3.3.fc17.1-i386) OpenJDK Client VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode) The machine is: uname -a Linux wikitiki.mindsoft.com 3.6.7-4.fc17.i686 #1 SMP Tue Nov 20 20:13:04 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Is this some missconfiguration on my part? Best regards, Cristian Falcas

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[Users] How to attach virtualized Gluster cluster?
by Peter Styk 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Any chance there is a way to get this to work? 2 x F16 nodes bare metal engine and gluster 4 node virtualized in vmware esxi engine ok 2x node ok gluster stand alone setup ok problem: Can't attach my stand-alone gluster cluster. Since I'm not using virtualized gluster bricks to run virtual machines why can't I use it as storage only? intuition takes me here: Cluster #1 [Bare_Metal] Enable Ovirt Service [yes] & Enable Gluster Service [no] [shows Hosts and VMs] Cluster #2 [Virtualized] Enable Ovirt Service [no] & Enable Gluster Service [yes] [shows Hosts and Volumes] Have tried this several Times as full gluster working setup, empty nodes and oVirt agent nodes. No luck. Any pointers would be appreciated. Best, Peter Any indication or pointer on how to mount gluster cluster as the only storage for ovirt would be of great help. Peter

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Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue - FIXED
by Baldwin, John 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

I re-created the Centos 6.3 64-bit oVirt engine using the following repo URL locations which points to the latest versions In the dreyou.org repo baseurl=http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/ baseurl=http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ovirt-engine/ Using those repo file locations the oVirt Engine / backend 3.1.0-3.26.el6 was installed That had a build date of Fri 26 Oct 2012 06:54:09 AM EDT. That was current enough to contain the bug fix. The sound is working fine now. The Guest XP sound device is listed as Intel(r) 82801 AC'97 Audio Controller. Thanks again for pointing out the bug! John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator -----Original Message----- From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Baldwin, John Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 3:05 PM To: Andrew Cathrow Cc: users(a)ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue I looked into the bug at http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/7451/ That is exactly the problem I am having. The rpm I am using is: ovirt-engine-backend-3.1.0-3.19.el6.noarch Version : 3.1.0 Release : 3.19.el6 Build Date: Wed 15 Aug 2012 11:11:42 AM EDT Build Host: centos64-ov Source RPM: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.19.el6.src.rpm The fix for the bug which was simply a typo in the soundcard device name use in the ovirt backend engine (name corrected from act97 to ac97). The fix was submitted Aug 23 and approved Aug 26 after the build date of the file I am using. I will simply wait for the next update to be present in the Centos6 oVirt repo at http://www1.dreyou.org/ovirt/ovirt-engine31/ Thanks for the response Andrew and Itamar John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator john.baldwin(a)baycare.org -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Cathrow [mailto:acathrow@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:25 PM To: Baldwin, John Cc: users(a)ovirt.org; Itamar Heim Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Baldwin" <John.Baldwin(a)baycare.org> > To: "Andrew Cathrow" <acathrow(a)redhat.com>, "Itamar Heim" > <iheim(a)redhat.com> > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:17:20 PM > Subject: RE: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > Looking at the qemu process for that XP VM this is what is listed as > the sound device: -device intel-hda,id=sound0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x4 > -device hda-duplex,id=sound0-codec0,bus=sound0.0,cad=0 > > This probably coincides that the listed Audio device is the Audio > Device on High Definition Audio Bus. > > I guess the qemu line should be showing a sound device as ac97 and > NOT intel-hda?? that's right - you should see ac97. Looks like the issue was fixed here http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/7451/ > > John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Cathrow [mailto:acathrow@redhat.com] > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:11 PM > To: Itamar Heim > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org; Baldwin, John > Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com> > > To: "John Baldwin" <John.Baldwin(a)baycare.org> > > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 11:31:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > > > On 11/19/2012 06:12 PM, Baldwin, John wrote: > > > This XP VM I having the sound issue with was created as a Desktop. > > > > you can: > > less /var/log/vdsm/vdsm.log > > or /var/log/libvirt/qemu/vm-name.log > > > and look for "xml version" to see the xml passed > > > > > > > > John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: users-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On > > > Behalf Of Baldwin, John > > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:48 AM > > > To: Itamar Heim > > > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > > > Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > > > > > Is there a debug and/or log that can be used to see what sound > > > device is actually being created for the XP guest desktop VM that > > > is having the sound issue? > > > > > > John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:03 AM > > > To: Baldwin, John > > > Cc: Andrew Cathrow; users(a)ovirt.org > > > Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > > > > > On 11/16/2012 09:48 PM, Baldwin, John wrote: > > >> Here is the output of that command: > > >> > > >> engine=# select * from vdc_options where > > >> option_name='DesktopAudioDeviceType'; > > >> option_id | option_name | > > >> option_value > > >> | > > >> version > > >> -----------+------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------- > > >> 54 | DesktopAudioDeviceType | default,ac97 > > >> | > > >> 2.2 > > >> 55 | DesktopAudioDeviceType | > > >> WindowsXP,ac97,RHEL4,ac97,RHEL3,ac97,Windows2003x64,ac97,RHEL4x64,ac97,RHEL3x64,ac97,OtherLinux,ac97,Other,ac97,default,ich6 > > >> | 3.0 > > >> 56 | DesktopAudioDeviceType | > > >> WindowsXP,ac97,RHEL4,ac97,RHEL3,ac97,Windows2003x64,ac97,RHEL4x64 > > >> ,a > > >> c97 > > >> ,RHEL3x64,ac97,OtherLinux,ac97,Other,ac97,default,ich6 | 3.1 > > >> (3 rows) > > > > > > according to this, you should get ac97 for windows xp as well. > > > > > >> > > >> Note is used "ovirt-dre" repos (www.dreyou.org) due to the fact > > >> this is running on CentOS 6.3 x86_64 > > >> > > >> I did not have this issue when testing RHEV 3.0. using oVirt due > > >> to tem license has expired on RHEV. > > >> > > >> John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] > > >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 10:24 AM > > >> To: Andrew Cathrow > > >> Cc: Baldwin, John; users(a)ovirt.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Users] XP Guest Sound issue > > >> > > >> On 11/16/2012 05:10 PM, Andrew Cathrow wrote: > > >>> iirc an early version of oVirt configured the Intel hda sound > > >>> card rather than ac97 for Windows XP and since coming doesn't > > >>> have that driver you'd get this error. > > >> > > >> iirc, that would be a config change, so should be easy to check. > > >> can you please: > > >> > > >> psql -U postgres -d engine > > >> select * from vdc_options where > > >> option_name='DesktopAudioDeviceType'; > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Sent from Android email > > >>> > > >>> Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On 11/16/2012 04:46 PM, Baldwin, John wrote: > > >>>> Having issue with a 32bit XP guest. Sound device driver is > > >>>> not > > >>>> configured. Sound device has the ? “Audio Device on High > > >>>> Definition > > >>>> Audio Bus” defined. Driver ID is 1AF4 Red Hat Virtio. No > > >>>> drivers > > >>>> will load to this that I can find. I thought the ID would be > > >>>> listed are a AC97 or Ensoniq. > > >>>> > > >>>> Running oVirt Engine Version: 3.1.0-3.19.el6 Centos 6.3 64bit. > > >>>> KVM > > >>>> server is also Centos 6.3 64bit > > >>>> > > >>>> /John Baldwin - Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator/ > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Users mailing list > > >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org > > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> did you create a new Server or a new Desktop? > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Users mailing list > > >>> Users(a)ovirt.org > > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> Confidential: This electronic message and all contents contain > > >> information from BayCare Health System which may be privileged, > > >> confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. The > > >> information is intended to be for the addressee only. 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[Users] Panic on FreeBSD guest with >1 CPU
by Karli Sjöberg 27 Nov '12

27 Nov '12

Hey all! Since recently patching our hosts, I´ve been having trouble running FreeBSD guests with more than one virtual core or socket. I have managed take a screenshot of how it looks like when it panics when booting kernel, right after ACPI: http://i47.tinypic.com/2u90qrr.png I´ve tried this with similar results using 8.2-RELEASE, 8.3-RELEASE, 9.0-RELEASE and 9-STABLE. If I edit the guest to have only one virtual core or socket, it boots up without issue. Since noticing this, I´ve tried updating the packages one more time, thinking maybe it had already been fixed but no, it remains. These are the package versions I´m using: # rpm -qa | egrep '(kernel|libvirt|qemu|vdsm|seabios)' | sort -d ipxe-roms-qemu-20120328-1.gitaac9718.fc17.noarch kernel-3.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64 kernel-3.6.3-1.fc17.x86_64 kernel-3.6.7-4.fc17.x86_64 << This is the one that´s running libvirt-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-client-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config-network-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-lock-sanlock-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 libvirt-python-0.9.11.7-1.fc17.x86_64 qemu-common-1.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-img-1.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-kvm-1.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-kvm-tools-1.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 qemu-system-x86-1.0.1-2.fc17.x86_64 seabios-1.7.1-1.fc17.x86_64 seabios-bin-1.7.1-1.fc17.noarch vdsm-4.10.0-10.fc17.x86_64 vdsm-cli-4.10.0-10.fc17.noarch vdsm-python-4.10.0-10.fc17.x86_64 vdsm-xmlrpc-4.10.0-10.fc17.noarch Do you have any insights as to what the problem might be? Best Regards Karli Sjöberg

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[Users] ovirt-engine-dbscripts broken dependencies on F17
by Adrian Gibanel 27 Nov '12

27 Nov '12

First of all I don't have too much experience in Fedora to say that this is actually a bug so it might be a problem on my part not being able to use repos or whatever. My initial setup is explained in this other mailing list thread: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/005125.html Basically it's a Fedora 17 minimal installation with a /home mounted on a lvm partition and I just want to reinstall the whole oVirt again as an all-in-one setup without having to reinstall the whole Fedora 17. So if I'm not mistaken (I repeat that I don't have too much experience in Fedora) the error is: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch needs: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 but it's not going to be installed because the only version of: ovirt-engine-dbscripts available in the repo is: 3.0.0.0001-13.fc17 . More than this I have: ovirt-engine-sdk 3.2 installed (instead of 3.1)... taking a look at the logs it would seem that: yum upgrade --skip-broken is the one that has updated ovirt-engine-sdk to 3.2 version. So... if no update of the repository was needed (as per apt-get update is usually needed in Debian.) and I just had to run yum upgrade I can confirm that bug: 869457 ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869457 ) is not fixed at all. I'm temted to reinstall all the Fedora 17 again but it would be nice if you provided some yum commands to debug if the problem is for everyone or if it's specific of my setup so that we can confirm whether bug 869457 is fixed or not. Now I'm checking http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/005116.html more carefully and they say to run: engine-upgrade command which I haven't run. Anyways I think that running engine-cleanup and doing a yum upgrade should work (selecting the right ovirt-engine-sdk 3.1 version and not the 3.2 one) and it's not working at all. Thank you! (Here goes more or less the log): ----------------------------------------- This is how I have proceeded: (Don't proceed like this if you want to keep all your VMs... this is only a test machine) engine-cleanup rm -rf /home/iso rm -rf /home/storage rm -rf /etc/exports # I don't have any other exports there yum upgrade # I run yum upgrade because it would seem that ovirt-engine-sdk is no longer upgraded to 3.2 as per bug 869457 and http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/005116.html . --> Resoluci�n de dependencias finalizada Error: Paquete: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Necesita: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Eliminando: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Actualizado por: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-4.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-12.fc17.noarch (fedora) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-12.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-13.fc17.noarch (updates) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-13.fc17 Podr�a intentar utilizar el comando --skip-broken para sortear el problema ** Se ha encontrado 1 problema(s) pre existentes en la base de datos RPM, este es el resultado de 'yum check': kernel-headers-3.6.7-4.mykernel.fc17.x86_64 es uin duplicado con kernel-headers-3.6.7-4.fc17.x86_64 yum upgrade --skip-broken: Updated: dbus.x86_64 1:1.4.10-7.fc17 dbus-libs.x86_64 1:1.4.10-7.fc17 ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 0:3.2.0.2-1.fc17 ovirt-engine-setup.noarch 0:3.1.0-4.fc17 ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone.noarch 0:3.1.0-4.fc17 Ignored (Dependency problems): ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 0:3.1.0-4.fc17 Then I have run: rpm -qa | grep ovirt ovirt-engine-tools-common-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-image-uploader-3.1.0-0.git9c42c8.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-restapi-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-release-fedora-4-2.noarch ovirt-engine-config-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch ovirt-log-collector-3.1.0-0.git10d719.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-sdk-3.2.0.2-1.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-genericapi-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-backend-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-setup-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-notification-service-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-iso-uploader-3.1.0-0.git1841d9.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-userportal-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch so... ovirt-engine-sdk 3.2 version is still there! The bug is not fixed at all? Let's downgrade it then: yum downgrade ovirt-engine-sdk It doesn't seem to work. So I have tried: yum remove kernel-headers-3.6.7-4.fc17.x86_64 And then: yum upgrade [root@ns231094 ~]# yum upgrade Complementos cargados:versionlock Resolviendo dependencias --> Ejecutando prueba de transacci�n ---> Paquete ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 0:3.1.0-2.fc17 debe ser actualizado --> Procesando dependencias: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 para el paquete: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ---> Paquete ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 0:3.1.0-4.fc17 debe ser una actualizaci�n --> Resoluci�n de dependencias finalizada Error: Paquete: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Necesita: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Eliminando: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Actualizado por: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-4.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-12.fc17.noarch (fedora) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-12.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-13.fc17.noarch (updates) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-13.fc17 Podr�a intentar utilizar el comando --skip-broken para sortear el problema Podr�a intentar ejecutar: rpm- Va --nofiles --nodigest So... let's run: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest # Nothing interesting seen I'm reading more carefully the log and I think it's telling me that: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch needs: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 but it's not going to be installed the only version of: ovirt-engine-dbscripts available in the repo is: 3.0.0.0001-13.fc17 . So... not sure if I have hit a bug or if I need to force the ovirt repo manually when upgrading. I'm going to run: yum install -y http://www.ovirt.org\ /releases/ovirt-release-fedora.noarch.rpm just in case. Nothing to be updated. My final test was: [root@ns231094 ~]# yum --enablerepo=ovirt upgrade Complementos cargados:versionlock Error getting repository data for ovirt, repository not found [root@ns231094 ~]# yum --enablerepo=ovirt-stable upgrade Complementos cargados:versionlock Resolviendo dependencias --> Ejecutando prueba de transacci�n ---> Paquete ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 0:3.1.0-2.fc17 debe ser actualizado --> Procesando dependencias: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 para el paquete: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ---> Paquete ovirt-engine-dbscripts.noarch 0:3.1.0-4.fc17 debe ser una actualizaci�n --> Resoluci�n de dependencias finalizada Error: Paquete: ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) Necesita: ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Eliminando: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch (@ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-2.fc17 Actualizado por: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch (ovirt-stable) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.1.0-4.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-12.fc17.noarch (fedora) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-12.fc17 Disponible: ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.0.0.0001-13.fc17.noarch (updates) ovirt-engine-dbscripts = 3.0.0.0001-13.fc17 Podr�a intentar utilizar el comando --skip-broken para sortear el problema Podr�a intentar ejecutar: rpm- Va --nofiles --nodigest Finally I still get the 3.2 release: [root@ns231094 ~]# rpm -qa | grep ovirt ovirt-engine-tools-common-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-image-uploader-3.1.0-0.git9c42c8.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-restapi-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-release-fedora-4-2.noarch ovirt-engine-config-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-setup-plugin-allinone-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch ovirt-log-collector-3.1.0-0.git10d719.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-webadmin-portal-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-dbscripts-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-sdk-3.2.0.2-1.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-genericapi-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-backend-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-setup-3.1.0-4.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-notification-service-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch ovirt-iso-uploader-3.1.0-0.git1841d9.fc17.noarch ovirt-engine-userportal-3.1.0-2.fc17.noarch The next commands I would have run: export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 engine-setup -- -- Adrián Gibanel I.T. 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[Users] the jboss server in use with ovirt manager
by Jonathan Horne 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

--_000_9BE6F493F83A594DA60C45E6A09DC5AC016B763CAUSP01DAG0201co_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is my first exposure to using jboss server, so I have a dumb question.= I know this would probably be more appropriate for a jboss list=85but thi= s ovirt list is currently the only mailing list I am a member of. Id really like to use my management server as the place where I store my an= aconda scripts for unattended install. They are commonly grabbed via httpd= . Id be happy with just a directory I can access from the httpd that=92s r= unning. All I see httpd config file wise is the ovirt-engine.conf file wit= h the single line proxy setting. I can't tell where a reasonable place to = stick a web directory could be. Can someone help me out where I could place this webdir so its accessible t= o the virtual machines? Thanks, jonathan ________________________________ This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please de= lete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in deliv= ery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind SKO= POS to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agre= ement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for s= uch purpose. --_000_9BE6F493F83A594DA60C45E6A09DC5AC016B763CAUSP01DAG0201co_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <EA0DB73CC39897448B01AA3484FC385E(a)collaborationhost.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body style=3D"word-wrap:break-word; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:14px; font= -family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <div> <div> <div>This is my first exposure to using jboss server, so I have a dumb ques= tion.  I know this would probably be more appropriate for a jboss list= =85but this ovirt list is currently the only mailing list I am a member of.= </div> </div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>Id really like to use my management server as the place where I store = my anaconda scripts for unattended install.  They are commonly grabbed= via httpd.  Id be happy with just a directory I can access from the h= ttpd that=92s running.  All I see httpd config file wise is the ovirt-engine.conf file with the single line proxy setting= .  I can't tell where a reasonable place to stick a web directory coul= d be.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Can someone help me out where I could place this webdir so its accessi= ble to the virtual machines?</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Thanks,</div> <div>jonathan</div> <br> <hr> <font color=3D"Gray" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"1">This is a PRIVATE message. I= f you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kin= dly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of con= tent, this e-mail shall not operate to bind SKOPOS to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit wri= tten agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-m= ail for such purpose.</font> </body> </html> --_000_9BE6F493F83A594DA60C45E6A09DC5AC016B763CAUSP01DAG0201co_--

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