Please confirm your workshop attendance
by Robyn Bergeron
Hi folks,
I'm going to start wrangling the RSVP list.
We had a list going here, for board-company-attendees:
(URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)
... but I'd like to confirm availability for those attendees, now that
we have a date/location settled. If you are on this list, please
highlight your name in GREEN on the spreadsheet if you plan to attend,
RED if you are not. (Or, if you are the person who signed someone else
up, please do this for them, unless you don't know, in which case, just
work it out with them.)
Anyone *new* who is not yet on this list should just send an email to
the rsvp(a)ovirt.org mailing list.
And in the meantime, I'll start collecting the names/addresses of those
who have signed up to the rsvp@ mailing list so that we can keep a count
going.
Questions, comments, flames welcome. :)
-Robyn
12 years, 6 months
open archives or what?
by Karsten Wade
So we can't really just open the archives to this mailing list. We
have notes from out meetings in there that shouldn't be shared
publicly.
At the same time, we now need a list for doing planning of project
stuff in the open. For example, the workshop. Topics not really
suitable for board@.
Do we make a new list?
Or do we wipe the archives of this list and start from fresh?
I would be loathe to completely clean the archives to zero, but it
could be a pain to surgically remove content.
Thoughts?
- Karsten
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12 years, 6 months
oVirt Weekly Sync Call
by Robyn Bergeron
The following meeting has been modified:
Subject: oVirt Weekly Sync Call
Organizer: "Robyn Bergeron" <rbergero(a)redhat.com>
Location: Bridge info listed in invite
Time: 7:00:00 AM - 7:30:00 AM GMT -07:00 Arizona [MODIFIED]
Recurrence : Every 1 week(s) on No end date Effective Aug 31, 2011
Invitees: project-planning(a)ovirt.org; pmyers(a)redhat.com; mdday(a)us.ibm.com; Adam.Mendoza(a)netapp.com; waskoj(a)us.ibm.com; imad.sousou(a)intel.com; fnovak(a)us.ibm.com; lpeer(a)redhat.com; bazulay(a)redhat.com; Jon.Benedict(a)netapp.com; raharper(a)us.ibm.com ...
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
oVirt project launch synchronization call.
* Wednesdays, 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 7:00am US Pacific)
* Shared document: (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)
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12 years, 6 months
virtualization benchmark suites
by Michael D Day
Hi folks,
I spoke with several financial customers interested in KVM earlier this
week and two topics we discussed were KVM benchmarking and the oVirt
community. Two of the customers suggested that we contribute benchmarking
suites to oVirt as projects, and that we form a benchmarking community
under oVirt.
IBM has successfully contributed a benchmark called DayTrader to the Apache
foundation and formed a community around that benchmark, which tests
middleware using transaction and networking workloads.
I'm not proposing DayTrader. But IBM does have some distributed benchmarks
that may be interesting to the community. And others of you probably also
have similar test suites.
What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's
interest I'll pursue things on our end (no promises). But I think this is
good feedback from our customers and am interested to hear comments on the
idea.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Day
IBM Distinguished Engineer
Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development
Cell: +1 919 371-8786 | mdday(a)us.ibm.com
http://code.ncultra.org
12 years, 6 months
FYI - Post Workshop press discuss on Wed 28th agenda
by Carl Trieloff
I have invited Kerrin from our press team to join us next Wednesday's
call to discuss options for event/post-event release for official
project kick-off.
Doing this early, so there is enough time to discuss.
Carl.
12 years, 6 months
Re: virtualization benchmark suites
by Anthony Liguori
On 09/22/2011 04:47 PM, Michael D Day wrote:
> project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org wrote on 09/22/2011 05:34:38 PM:
>>
>> Does such benchmark ever existed (apart from kernel build)? :)
>> As you pointed Anthony, let the ovirt project first focus on simplify
>> the build process before we develop a competing benchmark suite to the
>> one that we base lots of our marketing over.
>>
>
> Yes, there are several distributed benchmarks that test different aspects of
> virtualization performance. SPECVirt tests server consolidation. It doesn't
> test memory over-commitment. In fact, I don't think anyone who publishes a
> SPECVirt score using a configuration that over-commits memory because it hurts
> the score. There are other benchmark suites that test HPC cluster-style
> workloads running on a hypervisor. And networking performance. These are just
> some of the ones we use within IBM. They are very useful. If we would have had
> better benchmark suites to test memory usage you would have decided to include
> the balloon driver in RHEL 5.4 instead of relying solely upon KSM. And if we
> had used a good distributed transactional benchmark like DayTrader we would
> have known early on that small-packet network performance is relatively poor.
> Just a couple of examples.
>
> If a benchmarking project does happen, it would need to be a self-sustaining
> project under the oVirt community umbrella. That means there would need to be
> interest in the form of independent developer resources.
DayTrader is a web application benchmark. You provide it a profile and it will
simulate a bunch of clients trying to connect to your web application.
It's geared toward J2EE developers as it provides to do performance testing of
your J2EE application.
I think the way to think of this in the context of oVirt, is a suite of tools
that can be used by an ISV/Customer to validate that they're deployment of oVirt
is optimized appropriately.
I definitely think its worth having a perf BoF as part of the workshop (or
perhaps the next workshop) to start discussing how we handle performance
measurement/tuning in an oVirt world.
I agree though that we need to tackle things one at a time but it doesn't hurt
to have an idea of where we want to be in the long term while we do that :-)
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> And keep in mind I'm passing on customer feedback. (I happen to think its a
> good suggestion as well).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Day
> IBM Distinguished Engineer
> Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development
> Cell: +1 919 371-8786 | mdday(a)us.ibm.com
> http://code.ncultra.org
>
12 years, 6 months
oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-09-21
by Robyn Bergeron
oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am
US Pacific)
== Invitees/Attendees ==
project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers
If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like
it to be, please send rbergero(a)redhat.com an email.
* Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat)
* Kyle Mestery (Cisco)
* Carl Trieloff (Red Hat)
* Frank Novak (IBM)
* Karsten Wade (Red Hat)
* Alexander Graf (SuSe)
* Anthony Ligouri (Red Hat)
* Livnat Peer (Red Hat)
* Itamar Heim (Red Hat)
* Andrew Cathrow (Red Hat)
* Perry Myers (Red Hat)
* Jon Benedict (NetApp)
== Project Schedule ==
* Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion
* oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3
* USA - CA - hosted by Cisco
* Press release post workshop
* Community startup at workshop
* Schedule first community release
* Community Infrastructure
* Launch at workshop
* First release - January/February.
== Action Items ==
* Livnat to work with Carl re: Google analytics
* Carl to start Google Doc re: starting to work the agenda
* Karsten to get wiki live
== Agenda ==
0) Quick Updates:
* Update from going live:
* 2800 views yesterday
* 1050~ views today thus far
* Most traffic is being referred from twitter
* Google Analytics would be a good idea, by names/geos - very easy for
someone who knows how. Livnat to work with Carl to get it going.
1) Board invites, status
* New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress:
* (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)
* (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day)
* (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.)
* (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - updating
* Waiting on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML)
* (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waiting to hear back
2) Project launch status / Progress review
* Website is live
* Project announcement, invites have been sent
* rsvp(a)ovirt.org
* Do we need to have folks on the Google docs attendee list re-sign up?
* OVA press release
* Workshop is next major milestone
3) oVirt Workshop / Summit
* Nov. 1, 2, 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose.
* Details:
* Attendee count, registration
* Evening events/activities
* Food
* Need to get agenda firmed up by next Friday or possibly even Wednesday.
* First morning
* Introductions, running through full source via demonstration,
scope of initial contribution, how it works. Afternoon: Start with
initial architectural overviews of components together as a group.
* Tuesday morning
* Dev environment, etc. How to get started.
* Other key aspects: Deeper dive around key components. Hardware
enablement (Intel), IBM additional thoughts - additional sessions from
other perspectives would be good.
* Create a google doc, or possibly wiki? Carl to make notes somewhere
(google docs, just need a wiki to post and will move over.)
* Multiple audiences - developers as well as participants/observers.
What's optimal for each of those groups?
* IBM (Anthony speaking) hopes to answer - how to participate? What
are the areas that people can dive into immediately and can help with?
Make sure we have time for discussion. Need to have time to discuss how
we can move forward. Kyle (Cisco) agrees. Dive-in sessions very useful,
esp. for an event like this. BoFs or barcamp-style would be useful.
* Gap analysis? Is that useful? Yes.
* Want to walk away fromworkshop with ideas, etc. We can start those
discussions For other participants, it's hard for them to commit on
behalf of the rest of their companies.
* Getting pre-work is very important to make sure that we get things
out of the workshop.
* Agreeing on first release date may be another thing to consider.
* What's the most useful stuff for prior to workshop? Suggestions:
* Gap analysis (at least from red hat's perspective), so they can
see how it aligns with other interests in their companies
* Documentation
* Possible to post a recorded demo to oVirt website?
* Links to existing info from Summit, etc. is possible
* Need to do:
* Documentation onto resources page
* Relevant presentations from 3.0
* Creating Demos around 3.0 release
* Gap analysis
* Roadmap / pick list
* Feature pages? (ie: similar to Fedora?)
4) Infrastructure (ongoing agenda item)
* Project naming status
* BZ, mailing lists.
* Wiki expected to be up in ~24hr
* Gerrit coming as well
* Discuss changing time / duration on the list
5) Other updates / Agenda topics
12 years, 6 months
