September 2011 - Project-planning

splitting cli/sdk project
by Michael Pasternak 01 Oct '11

01 Oct '11

Hi folks, I would like to propose splitting cli/sdk projects as each of them should become a master-project for different implementations and i guess we wouldn't want mixing different SDKs and CLIs under same project. -- Michael Pasternak RedHat, ENG-Virtualization R&D

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-09-28
by Robyn Bergeron 30 Sep '11

30 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) Carl Trieloff (Red Hat) Kyle Mestery (Cisco) Ayal Baron (Red Hat) Alex Graf (SUSE) Kerri Catallozzi (Red Hat) Anthony Liguori (IBM) Andy Cathrow (Red Hat) Perry Myers (Red Hat) Jim Jagielski (Red Hat) Jon Benedict (NetApp) Frank Novak (IBM) Karsten Wade (Red Hat) If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please send rbergero(a)redhat.com an email. == Action Items == * Kerri to put together draft press release for review next week * Robyn to update meeting time to one hour * List discussion items: Two-tier project acceptance/graduation proposal, Webex discussion * Kyle to look into the option of getting a UCS on site rather than Andy shipping a rack == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 0) General Updates * Andy has RHEV entitlements to help out those who want to get a bit more context * If anyone needs an entitlement to download RHEL + RHEV in order to get some experience with RHEV then please email acathrow(a)redhat.com * Agree to an hour going forward, at least in the short term, for phone call time. Voting on new project 1) Board news * Board members are now confirmed from each strategic company. (Carl) * Board members voting on first few proposed projects * We have had 3 projects approach us. Right now - really working on getting through the process, going through framework of process/acceptance, framing discussion. * What are requirements for oVirt project? * To get a project in / join ecosystem, the bar should be reasonably low, so we can build community, build interaction. Not a lot of detail around this right now. * It's important for us to get traction, but not necessarily creating precedent that we can't ever undo. Maybe a two-stage process akin to Apache Incubator - as a project/code/development grows, they can graduate onto higher level. Lets us have low barriers, allows us to be more nimble as far as changing things without creating long-term precedence. * Take back to list. 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Attendance updates (Robyn) * 54 RSVPs so far for the kick off workshop * Attendees not from initial group are numbering around 12 currently * We are still waiting for RSVPs from NetApp, IBM and more from Red Hat * Plan to leave the RSVP's open for another couple of weeks. * Bringing in 4-5 additional signups per day * Logistics planning: * Capacity is 45 people * Planning for breakout rooms * Evening events/activities planning * Food * Hotel arrangements * Press release discussion (Kerri from Red Hat joining call) * Next steps: Kerri to take a stab at drafting press release, get contacts at companies for PR; asking that folks help Kerri get in touch with appropriate people. * Target a launch for after the workshop - most likely the week following to make sure we get maximum pickup * One option is a joint release with all companies on the board , which Kerri would coordinate. This option is more effective in terms of press pickup but harder to coordinate given corporate press approval cycles * Another option is a Red Hat press release with supporting quotes from board members * Joint press release: * All tickers would be included, would lead to more coverage/awareness level * Cons - intensive scrutiny, hard to wrangle agreement sometimes. * Red Hat only press release * Easier to just get supporting quotes from member companies * Would lose a bit of awareness from not having tickers, etc. - not hitting as wide an audience * Thoughts: * Joint press release makes it a true joint effort, and not just a Red Hat Thing. * Time delay might be a problem on join press release, but think it is crucial to success of oVirt to get it out as a Joint Press Release. * To-Do's: Agreed, Kerri to put together draft joint release. Basic content is that we've launched the community at a F2F in California, examples of what we're agreeing to work on, companies + other folks. Very focused on workshop and results. * Kerri: Feel free to ask JimJag for help. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki update, movement from shared google document * Project-planning list archival plans * Project naming status 5) Other updates / Agenda topics * Andy is working with Corporate Comms folks to utilize our corporate webex account. Schedule some webex sessions/archived recordings, do some quick introductions to RHEV, use that going forward to have larger sessions as part of training/collaboration. Could be useful for overviews of projects, etc. * Should we post a schedule of topics to be done and when, and put it on the website? * Seeking volunteers for wanting to discuss things on webex. * Good background for folks coming to conference. * Hardware for workshop - Demo rack that we can ship out. If we want to do hands-on work, we can use it. Do we need any other hardware on-site for workshop? * Kyle will look into the option of getting a UCS on site rather than Andy shipping a rack

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archives cleaned, ready to open list
by Karsten Wade 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Folks: As per the original design for this list, we are planning to open the archives and subscription to the community. Prior to doing that, I manually redacted specific company names, names of individuals, and the Google Docs URLs with similar information in them. These redacted details are related to individuals and organizations that did not elect to join oVirt to start. We want their relationship with oVirt to be revealed in a manner and time of their choosing, not by accident from our archives. For any Google Docs we are using, we need to create a new document and copy/paste the clean information in to it to avoid the revision history. I'd like to open the list and archives following the next meeting. If you want to check for any particular detail in the archives, please take the opportunity to look and let me know if you have any questions, something that needs changing, and so forth. If there is no protest, I'll be opening the archives 24 hours from now. Thanks - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41

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Additional govenance guideline doc
by Carl Trieloff 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

Based on suggestions and comments on the threads around sub-project, I suggest we add the following guide for new projects. Most of the content from Anthony. fire away with comments... when we are happy with it, I'll post it. Carl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Project that wants to join oVirt should follow the following basic guidelines: 1) Project posts an overview page on ovirt.org/wiki, including scope and short term roadmap to ovirt.org wiki. That page is then copied as a mail to board@ovirt 2) There is an official comment period that lasts for a period of time up to 3 weeks. This time period allows for questions to be enhanced, and the wiki to be improved. Projects can complete this stage faster, however the key is provide enough time for discussion. 3) At any point in this time period, the proposal can be officially withdrawn. 4) At the end of the period or once there seems to be consensus, there is a final call for comments before a vote takes place. If the thread's comments die down, then a VOTE thread can be used to move the process along. Include the following information on the overview wiki page Project name: Project description: Initial scope: Description of how the project meets the oVirt requirements http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ a.) Each project must agree to support the oVirt complete stack (CS) release schedule b.) Each project must agree to provide or integrate with one of the published API’s Create dev list: Create bugzilla: GIT location if already open source:

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hotel for workshop
by Itamar Heim 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

Can we arrange with a hotel adjacent to the workshop for group pricing (or maybe cisco already has one)? would be nice if most would stay in same hotel, and reduce costs Thanks, Itamar

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda :: 2011-09-28
by Robyn Bergeron 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero(a)redhat.com. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Board members are now confirmed from each strategic company. (Carl) * Board members voting on first few proposed projects 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Attendance updates (Robyn) * Logistics planning: * Capacity is 45 people * Planning for breakout rooms * Evening events/activities planning * Food * Hotel arrangements * Press release discussion (Kerri from Red Hat joining call) 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki update, movement from shared google document * Project-planning list archival plans * Project naming status 5) Other updates / Agenda topics == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182

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Confirming RSVPs
by Robyn Bergeron 27 Sep '11

27 Sep '11

I've seen a number of comments in various places touching on the fact that people aren't quite sure what they should be getting when they send an email to rsvp(a)ovirt.org. Do we want to add some sort of confirmation mail, stating that we've received your RSVP and added you to our list, and more details will be forthcoming by $specificdate? -Robyn

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Board member
by Carl Trieloff 27 Sep '11

27 Sep '11

If it is possible, could we get the named board members for each strategic member. If we are going to action decisions on the 3 subprojects requests we will need these for voting. I suggest we try get them named this week, I'll spend some time on the call around it, and the next week we spend some time on the sub project topic. kind regards, Carl.

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Posted the current agenda as tentitive
by Carl Trieloff 27 Sep '11

27 Sep '11

at http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ We can refine as needed / as we get closer to the date, this seems to be a good framework to work towards based on comments so far. Carl.

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6998 page views Friday
by Carl Trieloff 26 Sep '11

26 Sep '11

Top referrers. 1.) reddit 2.) register 3.) lpeer's blog ... 8) twitter

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Workshop - more details
by Carl Trieloff 26 Sep '11

26 Sep '11

I've updated the agenda to be more specific based on the discussion on the call yesterday. Please don't hold back on any feedback. (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) Questions... -- start at 8AM? -- enough time for breakouts? -- enough time for investment areas from founders? .... thx Cal.

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http://www.ovirt.org/project/subprojects/
by Ayal Baron 24 Sep '11

24 Sep '11

Hi Carl, The vdsm lists listed on the site are incorrect. Correct links are: vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org vdsm-patches(a)lists.fedorahosted.org Resources should also include vdsm git path http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=vdsm.git Thanks, Ayal

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Please confirm your workshop attendance
by Robyn Bergeron 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

Hi folks, I'm going to start wrangling the RSVP list. We had a list going here, for board-company-attendees: (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) ... but I'd like to confirm availability for those attendees, now that we have a date/location settled. If you are on this list, please highlight your name in GREEN on the spreadsheet if you plan to attend, RED if you are not. (Or, if you are the person who signed someone else up, please do this for them, unless you don't know, in which case, just work it out with them.) Anyone *new* who is not yet on this list should just send an email to the rsvp(a)ovirt.org mailing list. And in the meantime, I'll start collecting the names/addresses of those who have signed up to the rsvp@ mailing list so that we can keep a count going. Questions, comments, flames welcome. :) -Robyn

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open archives or what?
by Karsten Wade 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

So we can't really just open the archives to this mailing list. We have notes from out meetings in there that shouldn't be shared publicly. At the same time, we now need a list for doing planning of project stuff in the open. For example, the workshop. Topics not really suitable for board@. Do we make a new list? Or do we wipe the archives of this list and start from fresh? I would be loathe to completely clean the archives to zero, but it could be a pain to surgically remove content. Thoughts? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41

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oVirt Weekly Sync Call
by Robyn Bergeron 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

The following meeting has been modified: Subject: oVirt Weekly Sync Call Organizer: "Robyn Bergeron" <rbergero(a)redhat.com> Location: Bridge info listed in invite Time: 7:00:00 AM - 7:30:00 AM GMT -07:00 Arizona [MODIFIED] Recurrence : Every 1 week(s) on No end date Effective Aug 31, 2011 Invitees: project-planning(a)ovirt.org; pmyers(a)redhat.com; mdday(a)us.ibm.com; Adam.Mendoza(a)netapp.com; waskoj(a)us.ibm.com; imad.sousou(a)intel.com; fnovak(a)us.ibm.com; lpeer(a)redhat.com; bazulay(a)redhat.com; Jon.Benedict(a)netapp.com; raharper(a)us.ibm.com ... *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* oVirt project launch synchronization call. * Wednesdays, 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 7:00am US Pacific) * Shared document: (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == Conference Call Info == * Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 * International dial-in listed below * Conference Code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182

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virtualization benchmark suites
by Michael D Day 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

Hi folks, I spoke with several financial customers interested in KVM earlier this week and two topics we discussed were KVM benchmarking and the oVirt community. Two of the customers suggested that we contribute benchmarking suites to oVirt as projects, and that we form a benchmarking community under oVirt. IBM has successfully contributed a benchmark called DayTrader to the Apache foundation and formed a community around that benchmark, which tests middleware using transaction and networking workloads. I'm not proposing DayTrader. But IBM does have some distributed benchmarks that may be interesting to the community. And others of you probably also have similar test suites. What is the group's feeling about benchmarking projects? If there's interest I'll pursue things on our end (no promises). But I think this is good feedback from our customers and am interested to hear comments on the idea. Thanks, Mike Mike Day IBM Distinguished Engineer Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development Cell: +1 919 371-8786 | mdday(a)us.ibm.com http://code.ncultra.org

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FYI - Post Workshop press discuss on Wed 28th agenda
by Carl Trieloff 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

I have invited Kerrin from our press team to join us next Wednesday's call to discuss options for event/post-event release for official project kick-off. Doing this early, so there is enough time to discuss. Carl.

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4044 views for Sept 22
by Carl Trieloff 23 Sep '11

23 Sep '11

Top two link from sources 1.) linux.mag.de 2.) twitter Carl.

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Re: virtualization benchmark suites
by Anthony Liguori 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

On 09/22/2011 04:47 PM, Michael D Day wrote: > project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org wrote on 09/22/2011 05:34:38 PM: >> >> Does such benchmark ever existed (apart from kernel build)? :) >> As you pointed Anthony, let the ovirt project first focus on simplify >> the build process before we develop a competing benchmark suite to the >> one that we base lots of our marketing over. >> > > Yes, there are several distributed benchmarks that test different aspects of > virtualization performance. SPECVirt tests server consolidation. It doesn't > test memory over-commitment. In fact, I don't think anyone who publishes a > SPECVirt score using a configuration that over-commits memory because it hurts > the score. There are other benchmark suites that test HPC cluster-style > workloads running on a hypervisor. And networking performance. These are just > some of the ones we use within IBM. They are very useful. If we would have had > better benchmark suites to test memory usage you would have decided to include > the balloon driver in RHEL 5.4 instead of relying solely upon KSM. And if we > had used a good distributed transactional benchmark like DayTrader we would > have known early on that small-packet network performance is relatively poor. > Just a couple of examples. > > If a benchmarking project does happen, it would need to be a self-sustaining > project under the oVirt community umbrella. That means there would need to be > interest in the form of independent developer resources. DayTrader is a web application benchmark. You provide it a profile and it will simulate a bunch of clients trying to connect to your web application. It's geared toward J2EE developers as it provides to do performance testing of your J2EE application. I think the way to think of this in the context of oVirt, is a suite of tools that can be used by an ISV/Customer to validate that they're deployment of oVirt is optimized appropriately. I definitely think its worth having a perf BoF as part of the workshop (or perhaps the next workshop) to start discussing how we handle performance measurement/tuning in an oVirt world. I agree though that we need to tackle things one at a time but it doesn't hurt to have an idea of where we want to be in the long term while we do that :-) Regards, Anthony Liguori > And keep in mind I'm passing on customer feedback. (I happen to think its a > good suggestion as well). > > Thanks, > > Mike > > Mike Day > IBM Distinguished Engineer > Chief Virtualization Architect, Open Systems Development > Cell: +1 919 371-8786 | mdday(a)us.ibm.com > http://code.ncultra.org >

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-09-21
by Robyn Bergeron 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please send rbergero(a)redhat.com an email. * Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) * Kyle Mestery (Cisco) * Carl Trieloff (Red Hat) * Frank Novak (IBM) * Karsten Wade (Red Hat) * Alexander Graf (SuSe) * Anthony Ligouri (Red Hat) * Livnat Peer (Red Hat) * Itamar Heim (Red Hat) * Andrew Cathrow (Red Hat) * Perry Myers (Red Hat) * Jon Benedict (NetApp) == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Action Items == * Livnat to work with Carl re: Google analytics * Carl to start Google Doc re: starting to work the agenda * Karsten to get wiki live == Agenda == 0) Quick Updates: * Update from going live: * 2800 views yesterday * 1050~ views today thus far * Most traffic is being referred from twitter * Google Analytics would be a good idea, by names/geos - very easy for someone who knows how. Livnat to work with Carl to get it going. 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - updating * Waiting on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waiting to hear back 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Website is live * Project announcement, invites have been sent * rsvp(a)ovirt.org * Do we need to have folks on the Google docs attendee list re-sign up? * OVA press release * Workshop is next major milestone 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Nov. 1, 2, 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose. * Details: * Attendee count, registration * Evening events/activities * Food * Need to get agenda firmed up by next Friday or possibly even Wednesday. * First morning * Introductions, running through full source via demonstration, scope of initial contribution, how it works. Afternoon: Start with initial architectural overviews of components together as a group. * Tuesday morning * Dev environment, etc. How to get started. * Other key aspects: Deeper dive around key components. Hardware enablement (Intel), IBM additional thoughts - additional sessions from other perspectives would be good. * Create a google doc, or possibly wiki? Carl to make notes somewhere (google docs, just need a wiki to post and will move over.) * Multiple audiences - developers as well as participants/observers. What's optimal for each of those groups? * IBM (Anthony speaking) hopes to answer - how to participate? What are the areas that people can dive into immediately and can help with? Make sure we have time for discussion. Need to have time to discuss how we can move forward. Kyle (Cisco) agrees. Dive-in sessions very useful, esp. for an event like this. BoFs or barcamp-style would be useful. * Gap analysis? Is that useful? Yes. * Want to walk away fromworkshop with ideas, etc. We can start those discussions For other participants, it's hard for them to commit on behalf of the rest of their companies. * Getting pre-work is very important to make sure that we get things out of the workshop. * Agreeing on first release date may be another thing to consider. * What's the most useful stuff for prior to workshop? Suggestions: * Gap analysis (at least from red hat's perspective), so they can see how it aligns with other interests in their companies * Documentation * Possible to post a recorded demo to oVirt website? * Links to existing info from Summit, etc. is possible * Need to do: * Documentation onto resources page * Relevant presentations from 3.0 * Creating Demos around 3.0 release * Gap analysis * Roadmap / pick list * Feature pages? (ie: similar to Fedora?) 4) Infrastructure (ongoing agenda item) * Project naming status * BZ, mailing lists. * Wiki expected to be up in ~24hr * Gerrit coming as well * Discuss changing time / duration on the list 5) Other updates / Agenda topics

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RE: Workshop - more details
by Itamar Heim 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:iheim@redhat.com] ... > (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > > ... > > -- enough time for investment areas from founders? > > > > I am missing a lot of deep dive time per module > - engine > - api > - ui > - vdsm > - history & reports Also: - node - sdk/cli Obviously, these could be parallel, but we need to allow people to go to more than one or two of these somehow. Maybe we'll poll the RSVP list on which of these are more relevant or do we concentrate only or 2-3 of them.

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3550 visitors to oVirt yesterday
by Carl Trieloff 22 Sep '11

22 Sep '11

coming up on 2000 already visited today. regards Carl.

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wiki is now live
by Carl Trieloff 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Details here. http://www.ovirt.org/project/community/ Carl.

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oVirt Sync Call Agenda :: 2011-09-21
by Robyn Bergeron 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please send rbergero(a)redhat.com an email. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Agenda == 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike, Ryan) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - updating * Waiting on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waiting to hear back 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Website is live * Project announcement, invites have been sent * rsvp(a)ovirt.org * Do we need to have folks on the Google docs attendee list re-sign up? * OVA press release * Workshop is next major milestone 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Nov. 1, 2, 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose. * Details: * Attendee count, registration * Evening events/activities * Food 4) Infrastructure (ongoing agenda item) * Project naming status * BZ, mailing lists. 5) Other updates / Agenda topics == Previous Action Items == * Mike Day - Follow up with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) advise that they have less than 3 days to commit * Carl Trieloff - Update google doc to reflect correct workshop date in all areas * Andy Cathrow - Follow up with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (has meeting scheduled), (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) ((COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)) * Karsten Wade - set up rsvp list at rsvp(a)ovirt.org for attendees to indicate attendance * Robyn Bergeron / Karsten to subscribe everyone on-list to board list - board list will be public, planning list will still be private. * Robyn/Carl/Karsten to send out a final version of all docs, locations, etc. * Carl following up on workspace availability. * ALL: Please review slides, invite, webpage. * ALL: We need a relevant logo or picture on the website for launch - taking suggestions. Details/size of image are posted. * ALL: Looking around for people proficient in CSS markup - if you can, or know of a potential volunteer, please follow up for website items. == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182

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2817 people found the launch of oVirt today
by Carl Trieloff 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

that resulted in a few rsvps. Let's keep getting the word out. regards Carl.

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Workshop details, questions
by Robyn Bergeron 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

So thanks to Kyle and Michael at Cisco, we have space for our workshop on Nov. 1-3. Right now, it looks like the biggest room that we can get is capable of handling 75 people. Wireless will be available. A few questions: * Do we want to advertise that we can only handle 75 people, and have a cutoff/waiting list? * Nighttime activities: Are we interested in doing anything in the evening(s)? * Food, dinners, etc: Are we doing anything along the lines of having a company sponsor food, an event, etc.? I'm not sure that we've gotten into those details. Kyle, am I missing anything here? :) -Robyn

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We are LIVE !!!
by Carl Trieloff 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

We are public... Please subscribe to at least the user and announce list for now. More information here http://www.ovirt.org/project/community/ Feel free to speak about it, plug it, twitter it with the oVirt tag etc. The PDF and e-mail invitation to the workshop are here http://www.ovirt.org/project/resources/ We are onto phase 2, marketing the workshop and working the agenda. Carl.

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Re: Ovirt Community - Becoming a maintainer
by Doron Fediuck 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

(re-sending since I didn't get a reply for it) On Monday 12 September 2011 21:29:12 Carl Trieloff wrote: > On 09/11/2011 05:16 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > > On Sunday 11 September 2011 12:11:27 Itamar Heim wrote: > >> Cc'ing some existing leads for comments <SNIP> > > 0. Title is missing. I'm guessing it's the same as document name? > > > > 1. There's a combined usage of 'project' and 'sub-project'. I suggest using 'project' to simplify it. > > If you take Apache for example, they host projects, and even real sub-projects (http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_proposal.html) > > they end up being listed as projects (http://projects.apache.org/indexes/alpha.html#D) > > done > > > 2. The following needs some re-phrasing: > > > > IT is expected however that if you have contributed doc, and are not an expect on code that you > > don’t ack patches for example. You can also be voted into one sub-project and not another based > > on your area of influence, or you could get into them all. > > > > * IT => It > > * doc => a document? > > * and are not an expect => and are not an expert? > > - Generally this paragraph begins with one thing, and ends with something completely different. > > I'd think of adding each sentence to a relevant paragraph carrying the same theme / subject. > > re-worked, see what you think. (go ahead and edit it directly if needed.) > > > > > 3. There are terms that need clarification, or typos. For example: wsdm. Is it VDSM? Something else? > > fixed > > > > > 4. And probably the most important. This document is _also_ about being a maintainer. But it's > > _also_ about being a (sub-)project contributer (and maybe some more also's); > > > > - Contributing to a sub-project > > - Adding to the discussions and contributing code > > and there's more contents about giving to the community. This is all relevant > > to project / community membership. > > > > => This document should be spitted into community membership document and > > (sub-)project maintenance. Currently it's a mix of both. > > > > > Don't we want it mixed? why would we draw a line between the two roles? > having people thinking of community and code together is healthy. > > Carl. > OK, looks much better now. Some final (I hope) remarks; 1. We now have 2 "Becoming a maintainer" headers. I'd change the 2nd one to something like "Applying for a project maintainer role" or anything alike. 2. WRT contribution and maintenance mixture, it takes the focus off the document's topic, for no visible reason. I'll try to explain with 2 examples; a. The car You just bought a new car, and you look into the owner manual, looking for a quick & simple way to adjust your radio pre-set stations. You get the information in one chapter which includes the complete wiring scheme, board design and explanation on connector types to use when connecting to amplifiers or phone car-kit. Will you think it's very helpful and easy to understand how you should set your radio buttons? Now think of the mechanic guy in the garage, getting the same manual, which he's supposed to use in order to verify what is short-circuiting the car embedded media controller. What will he think when he needs to read the connector description along with setting radio buttons? Is mixing all the information a good idea? Does it help both guys? Any of them? b. Git Book http://book.git-scm.com/ As you can see there are separate chapters for each type of user; Basic, Intermediate and Advanced. I'm sure someone who looks for a way to recover corrupted objects, won't find git clone syntax very helpful while he looks for the relevant information. 3. Now back to us... I think the following should be used in a different document; - Contributing to a project - Adding to the discussions and contributing code - Large projects These (and maybe some more) should be located in a document focused on general community contribution and oVirt project specific contribution rules / policy / code / coding-conventions, etc. Apache,for instance, asks every contributer to sign something making the code contribution owned by / used by the relevant project, so there are no license / rights issues. This could be a good place for explaining such a signature, should we require one. Current document should be lean and mean; Containing the relevant information on becoming a maintainer, responsibilities, ethics, policies, etc. The document should start by referring to the project contribution document. In this way you give more background if needed. -- /d "All computers wait at the same speed."

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Location (for Cisco, IBM, Intel)
by Carl Trieloff 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

If it is at all possible, could Cisco, IBM, Intel see if we can get a tentative confirm for one of the facilities for the launch on the 1-3rd November before the Wednesday call. If we can settle this by/on Wednesday we can complete the materials and go public with invitations / briefings next week. Carl.

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we are partially live....
by Carl Trieloff 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

www.ovirt.org is up, however the DNS has not yet cut across which is causing the css not to load. hopefully DNS cuts across tonight or tomorrow morning. If you want to view the site between now and then add 173.255.252.138 ovirt.org www.ovirt.org <http://www.ovirt.org> to your etc/hosts file. I will mail out when we are cut across correctly. Carl.

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final PDF invite deck notes
by Karsten Wade 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

I went over (I believe) the latest PDF and have these notes for changes. Replacement text is in "", simple search replace sed-style. == page 2 == Drop "" around oVirt. Use bold to emphasize. (In American usage "" = uncertainty.) "The project will kickoff November 1st through 3rd with a meeting and workshop that is open to all who want to use, learn about, or get involved with the comprehensive open virtualization management platform." "The sessions cover the technical sub-projects, governance, getting involved, usage, and much more. Full source code repositories, project site, forums, and so forth will launch at the event." "If you have any interest in an open virtualization management platform you need to be there!" == page 3 == (Should be:) http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ == page 6 == "Tremendous interest in open virtualization throughout ..." s/etc/etc./ == page 7 == * "Superior performance, scalability, and security." * s/OPEN/open/ == page 8 == * "The goal is to create a vibrant community where platforms, features, and interfaces are designed and implemented today and in to the future." * "The project is seeded ..." * "Open sourcing its virtualization management assets (RHEV)." * "From partners, customers, and competitors to build ..." == page 11 == * "... used by oVirt Engine or other applications ..." == page 13 == * "Including hypervisor, engine, API, and GUI" * s/eg./e.g./g == page 14 == s/eg/e.g./ == page 18 == s/it's/its/ s/api's/APIs/ == page 21 == * "oVirt is now one of the projects it is able to promote." * "... focused and works on implementation and definition of KVM solutions." == page 22 == * "... can be seen as complementary in the same way ..." == page 24 == s/oVirt engine/oVirt Engine/ s/sub-projects/projects/ -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41

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oVirt site
by Livnat Peer 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Hi, I reviewed the documents on the site and it looks great. Here are some comments i have on the different documents: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Becoming a maintainer - A very good document. typos: - "(More on joining the board here …)" - add a link to the board doc - " to some projects that to others " - s/that/than - "or to be become a maintainer" - remove the 'be' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Adding a sub-project - - I think the title should be "Adding a project" to be consistent with the rest of the docs on the site. typo: - "In addition the board my vote" - s/my/may - "theoVirt" - the oVirt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting - 1. If the R-T-C policy is in effect the document says that +1 means ‘I have tested this patch myself, and found it good.’. I find this requirement to be too strict. I think that testing a patch is the responsibility of the patch submitter and reviewing a patch should not require actual testing. I suggest the following instead - For me reviewing a patch (+1 for a patch) means: - The patch make sense - The patch follows the project standards (e.g. code format) - The patch takes into account the different aspects/components of the project - The patch does not changes any core behavior or introduces new concepts that were not discussed in the mailing list beforehand. If the reviewer wants to test the patch or thinks additional testing is needed then he better do so but i would not go and set that as a requirement. 2. The document says that a three +1 votes are required for a pass. In the context of patch approval that requirement might be an overkill. I am looking at the engine project as an example there are a lot of patches a day, large part of them are not too complicated and one ack can be enough for validation. Requiring 3 acks can slow the development and i am not sure it is justified/needed. I suggest that by default a patch should require only one ack. If a patch introduces a major change or new concepts the patch submitter should mark the patch as such and ask for 3 acks. In addition if a patch reviewer thinks a patch has some level of complexity he can also ask the patch to have 3 acks before approval. This approach can also contribute for Developing and Maturing projects which do not have the needed resources to deal with 3 acks for each patch. typos: - "majour" - s/majour/major - The title "Vetos" is lost in the Votes on releases section. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Board - typo: - "with 10 or more resource" - s/resource/resources ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Livnat

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Almost ready to go public
by Carl Trieloff 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

I have updated the website, the PDF invitation and the e-mail invitation. Please take a quick look and see if my last pass through fix ups are good. I have shortened the tease on the e-mail invite a little and posted it in addition to the PDF on the resources page: http://lists.ovirt.org/project/resources/ The site has been updated with logistics. If we are all good, I'll sync with Ralf and we can start turning it public later today. Mail out any issues, thx. kind regards Carl.

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project matrix
by Karsten Wade 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

I'm looking at http://lists.ovirt.org/project/subprojects/ and thinking about a few things. * Each of the project names currently is not a link. We could have a single, mostly static landing page for each subproject e.g. ovirt.org/projectname (which can be nested in the menus, too.) It's easy to give a wide range of people 'writer' access in the website framework so people can edit their own subproject page at-will. If that makes sense, I'll go ahead and create the pages then link them in to the matrix. Carl - we can also link them in to the drop-down navigation to make it easier to get to a subproject from anywhere on the site. * We could drop the link to archives 'arc' entirely and rely upon the link that is on the mailing list page. I don't recall seeing many instances of a matrix e.g. jboss.org or eclipse.org having deep links to each list's archives. * We could also drop the link that is a mailto: call since nearly all these lists will require subscription to post. * Then just have one link 'devel' etc., or even have listname(a)ovirt.org just be a link to the Mailman page. * Partially because of the way the matrix looks, it does make the 'devel' name very busy, and I understand that as one of the reasons Carl prefers arch(a)ovirt.org as the "main project core technical and schedule discussions list." The name for this list I had orginally down as devel(a)ovirt.org. Is that going to be too difficult if every subproject is also subproject-devel(a)ovirt.org? Anyway, we can just link to this overall list above the matrix. * For maintainer names, it will be nice to link to a wiki user page for each person. I'll be sure to detail how to do that on the wiki, offer up some templates, etc. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41

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Site has new banner
by Carl Trieloff 19 Sep '11

19 Sep '11

Thanks to Mairin, we have a new banner for the site... Carl.

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-09-14
by Robyn Bergeron 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, September 14, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers Carl Trieloff (Red Hat) Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) Kyle Mestery (Cisco) Adam Mendoza (NetApp) Karsten Wade (Red Hat) Itamar Heim (Red Hat) Jon Benedict (NetApp) Frank Novak (IBM) Ralf Flaxa (SuSE) Mike Day (IBM) Andy Cathrow (Red Hat) Perry Myers (Red Hat) Apologies if your name was omitted. == Action Items == * Mike Day - Follow up with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) advise that they have less than 3 days to commit * Carl Trieloff - Update google doc to reflect correct workshop date in all areas * Andy Cathrow - Follow up with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (has meeting scheduled), (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) ((COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)) * Karsten Wade - set up rsvp list at rsvp(a)ovirt.org for attendees to indicate attendance * Robyn Bergeron / Karsten to subscribe everyone on-list to board list - board list will be public, planning list will still be private. * Robyn/Carl/Karsten to send out a final version of all docs, locations, etc. * Carl following up on workspace availability. * ALL: Please review slides, invite, webpage. * ALL: We need a relevant logo or picture on the website for launch - taking suggestions. Details/size of image are posted. * ALL: Looking around for people proficient in CSS markup - if you can, or know of a potential volunteer, please follow up for website items. == Project Schedule == * Mass invite deck - September 19th * Deck and email that can be used to invite to the workshop * Do we want a list for this ( or use rsvp to planning) * Website Launch - September 16 or 19th * This is just enough content to explain the project, and advertise the workshop * Promote workshop at every event we can between Sept 20th and Nov 8th * Send out invites / invite list * oVirt Workshop - November 1-3 * USA - CA - hosted By IBM / Cisco / Intel * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Working Shared Document == (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == Agenda == General Updates: * Website work has been ongoing. * To-do: Need to update google doc workshop date to reflect Nov 1-3. * Any website mistakes as people flip through - please send to the project-planning list. * You may also get a writer/editor/admin account and edit the site directly. * We need a relevant logo or picture on the website for launch - taking suggestions. Details/size of image are posted. * Fishing around for people proficient in CSS markup - if you can, or know of a potential volunteer, please follow up for website items. 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike, Ryan) * Need to update that they have 3 days. Mike to follow up. * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) to also know that we're on a timeline. * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Andy has a 10pm call tonight with them. * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - wants to join * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) - Carl hasn't been able to finalize the meeting, will just keep moving. * Confirmed but additional follow-up * Intel (additional contacts) (Mike Day) * Have been participating in call 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Updated schedule - posted in this agenda. * Generic slide deck (review) * Will get updated with location/final logistics once we have them. * Draft workshop invite (review) * Invite date: Sept. 19th * Website * Website is live - will start moving stuff into website and depart from the google docs space. * Companies strategically supporting oVirt - thinking of putting groups' logos in * Companies supporting initiative, but not stepped up from a Board perspective - start collecting their logos on the lower half of the page? * Do we want to start this page at the workshop, or now, and fill it out more towards the workshop? * Bottom half could be difficult - hard to vet who the interest is without them being firmly committed. Might choose to omit second half. * Governance docs * Infrastructure / mailing lists will be getting created through the end of the week * Do a go/no-go on Monday, and hopefully send out the invite for the workshop. * For sending out invites - start sending out invites, tweeting, social media, etc. Also anyone speaking publicly can use the deck/invite letter. Just send out to our own personal/respective open source communities. * Set up an rsvp list at RSVP(a)ovirt.org - anyone wanting to come can drop a mail there for keeping track of running headcount, announcements. * Robyn/Carl/Karsten to send out a final version of all docs, locations, etc. * Twitter hashtag info: #ovirt * Carl will talk to OVA folks, etc. on Monday, once we go live. * When we've spoken to someone - fire a mail off to planning list. * Can we use OVA for buzz? Doesn't hit tech community as much, but could create buzz. * Could do a press release with OVA on day of invite - and then have oVirt have their own press release post-workshop. * OVA has a weekly meeting - could be contacted. * We should send at least the core information to the OVA membership - details for the workshop, etc. * Should take a matter of a few days to do PR with OVA. * Robyn / Karsten to subscribe everyone on-list to board list - board list will be public, planning list will still be private. 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Settle date/location * Looks to be possibly California, Bay Area, week of Nov. 1-3. * Current Workshop Attendee / Invitee list * (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Status on facilities availability: * IBM (Mike Day) - not working for those dates * Cisco (Kyle) - will ping higher-ups again today. * Intel (Carl, Dave Stewart) 4) Positioning/Differentiation Points (Karsten) * Has been added to slide deck, both basic and expanded 5) Governance Docs * All governance info has been moved onto the website. * Legal stuff getting posted (licenses, etc.) to website. 6) Infrastructure (Open Agenda item) * Project naming status * BZ, mailing lists. 7) Other updates / Agenda topics

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Can you please mail me your company logo,
by Carl Trieloff 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

It is for the strategically supporters page, else I'll be forced to pull a random one from your site :-) Thx Carl.

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda :: 2011-09-14
by Robyn Bergeron 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, September 14, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please send rbergero(a)redhat.com an email. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Mass invite deck - September 19th * Deck and email that can be used to invite to the workshop * Do we want a list for this ( or use rsvp to planning) * Website Launch - September 16 or 19th * This is just enough content to explain the project, and advertise the workshop * Promote workshop at every event we can between Sept 20th and Nov 8th * Send out invites / invite list * oVirt Workshop - November 8 & 9th * USA - CA - hosted By IBM / Cisco / Intel * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Working Shared Document == (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == Agenda == 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike, Ryan) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - updating * Waiting on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waiting to hear back * Confirmed but additional follow-up * Intel (additional contacts) (Mike Day) 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Updated schedule * Generic slide deck (review) * Draft workshop invite (review) * Invite date: Sept. 19th * Website * Governance docs 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Settle date/location * Looks to be possibly California, Bay Area, week of Nov. 7. * Current Workshop Attendee / Invitee list * (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Status on facilities availability: * IBM (Mike Day) * Cisco (Kyle) * Intel (Carl, Dave Stewart) 4) Positioning/Differentiation Points (Karsten) * Need to add to updated slide deck 5) Governance Docs (Carl) 6) Infrastructure (Open Agenda item) * Project naming status * BZ, mailing lists. 7) Other updates / Agenda topics == Previous Action Items == * Owners to follow up on confirmations with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Mike/Ryan of IBM, possibly Carl, to follow up on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) status. * Carl to update list with: (a) Updated briefing deck, (b) draft invitation letter * Robyn to update agenda for next week with time dedicated to review of deck, invitation letter * Dave Stewart to check with Intel on possibility of hosting space * Kyle Mestery to check with Cisco on possibility of hosting space * Carl to follow up with IBM on possibility of hosting space * Karsten to continue with infrastructure work, will be pushing updates to mailing list. * Itamar to continue working of naming of projects that will be pushed to the website, and send out an update of that list in the next few days. * Karsten to continue with website work == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182

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oVirt comminuty voting
by Carl Trieloff 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Please read, we can always vote in updates, so proof it and make sure it is good enough to get going with. (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) Jim, if you also proof, given your experience in this area I have linked it into the web site layout in the google doc, I'll be working all the key sections one by one to get us going for launch. thx Carl.

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new oVirt website
by Karsten Wade 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

There is a new oVirt project website in staging, and kept private for now: http://lists.ovirt.org username: ovirtstaging password: 1zGn48XEZPHFe For the content discussed here and from the Google Doc, the new canonical location for that is the website. Here is the work still to be done: * The header graphic needs an update that is relevant to oVirt. It should be 990x180 pixels. Do you have any designers available to help with this? (Resulting work under ASL 2.0.) - Maybe we need a new logo? * The subproject matrix needs fixing - information, content updates, and making it prettier/clearer. If anyone has CSS expertise, we can probably make a quick fix to the site CSS for that. * Figure out final hosting arrangements, which can be discussed with the infrastructure team (http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra.) * Creation of remaining mailing lists. * Finish of MediaWiki installation, configuration, and initial population of wiki content - how to write pages, how to use for subprojects, etc. * Write up some procedures for how to manage content, add News/Events items, and so forth to the main website. As you look over the site, keep these things in mind: * We'll start using @ovirt soon, it's a blank feed until then. * RSS feed for "News" on the right may break due to site authentication. * Some mailing lists are not live yet. * If you see a problem, bug, content missing or needing improving, etc. - bring that discussion here, but you can also take a new user account and help us fix it directly, just ask. Thanks - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41

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Re: Adding a project to oVirt
by Doron Fediuck 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

On Tuesday 13 September 2011 18:45:32 Carl Trieloff wrote: > On 09/13/2011 10:23 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 September 2011 17:11:47 Doron Fediuck wrote: > >> On Tuesday 13 September 2011 11:24:16 Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: project-planning-bounces(a)ovirt.org > >>> [mailto:project-planning-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Carl > >>>> Trieloff > >>>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 22:30 PM > >>>> To: project-planning(a)ovirt.org > >>>> Subject: Adding a project to oVirt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) > >>>> Anthony, I believe I have your comments worked into this doc, please > >>>> take a look. > >>>> > >>>> Itamar, please review the two project rules. > >>> Looks ok to me, my concerns are on the rules implied by this, but that's > >>> on another thread. > >>> Cc'ing more reviewers > >>> > >> The API restriction may be too much. > >> Assuming engine is RHEV-M, important projects similar to KSM[1] > >> will not be a part of oVirt, and we may end up loosing important innovations. > >> > >> I'm not sure RHEV-M (engine) is fully equivalent to eclipse, and therefore > >> the API rule may harm us. > >> > >> As I see it, either we define oVirt umbrella as an union model (rings around > >> rhev-m), and acknowledge the fact we'll be loosing projects, or use an eco-environment > >> for visualization, by restricting the API rule to engin-related project, and > >> accepting other project which will commit to the other eco-system rule(s). > >> > > Sorry for mail my previous typo's (visualization -> virtualization, engin->engine, etc). > > > > One more thing I left out; > > What I'm missing in this document is a review process to a new project. > > IE- Do we accept any new project or do we have some minimal 'due diligence' > > of the project. > > > > For example; > > - Who owns it? > > - Is there some commitment behind it, or is it a 'one man show'? > > - Does is have a malicious potential? > > > > These are all examples I hope we won't need to face. > > I think it should be considered and added into the document, if you feel the same. > > > > I've added this > > In addition the board my vote to include additional projects that are > complementary to the oVirt eco-system on a case by case basis. > > Carl. > > ACK with the following minor fix: my=> may -- /d "Who's General Failure and why's he reading my disk?"

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Board
by Carl Trieloff 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

(URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) This I believe is the governance doc we need to get going. please review. I will work on licensing next. Carl.

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Adding a project to oVirt
by Carl Trieloff 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

(URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) Anthony, I believe I have your comments worked into this doc, please take a look. Itamar, please review the two project rules. Carl.

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Ovirt Community - Becoming a maintainer
by Carl Trieloff 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

(URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)

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Materials for going public with invitations
by Carl Trieloff 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

Please review the deck. Fire comments back referencing to slide number. All comments welcome Also, any additional questions we may want to add to the Q&A. Jon has affered to help draft the invitation mail, thx Jon. Fire it out for review whenever you are happy with it in basic form. We can plug the location logistics in when they are final Please keep the material confidential until we have reviewed it and are ready to go in ~10 days time regards, Carl.

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Workshop Invite - please provide feedback
by Benedict, Jon 12 Sep '11

12 Sep '11

Hi all, I¹ve had a few passes at the Workshop Invite, with some good feedback from Carl. I¹d like to share the latest version with all of you in hopes that you will provide additional feedback. Here is the current draft: Would you like to support an Open Source project that affects all aspects of the KVM hypervisor? Are you interested in helping to develop or influence the next generation of Open Source management tools for virtualization? Do you have the desire to grow the ecosystem around KVM in order to help drive its adoption? Do you have skills around organizing or writing that you would like to lend to an Open Source project? Are interested in an Open virtualization management platform? If you answered ³yes² to any of the above questions, then you are invited to attend the official launch of "oVirt" - the Open Virtualization Management Platform project, in (CITY, STATE,COUNTRY). The project will kickoff with a workshop meeting during (DATES), and is open to all who want to develop, QA, use, get involved or learn about the comprehensive open virtualization management platform. The sessions will cover the technical sub-projects, governance, getting involved, usage and much more. Full GIT repos (source), site, forums will also be launched at the event. If you have any interest in an Open Virtualization Management platform you need to be there! This workshop will officially launch the oVirt project. Cisco, IBM, Intel, NetApp, Red Hat, SuSe and other inaugural members of the oVirt team invite you to the launch of this truly open project; the workshop and project is open to any individual, non-corporate, or corporate. Please don¹t pass up on this opportunity to help foster, develop, organize, or influence the future of the Open Virtualization management project. Please RSVP by November 1st to rsvp(a)ovirt.org For more information www.ovirt.org/workshop <http://www.ovirt.org/workshop> Thanks, oVirt - When: (DATES) Where: (LOCATION) Local Hotels: (LIST) RSVP: rsvp(a)ovirt.org Coordinators: rbergeron(a)redhat.com Thanks, Jon Benedict Technical Marketing Engineer Virtualization & Cloud NetApp 919.476.5093 Direct 919.757.7789 Mobile Jon.Benedict(a)netapp.com www.netapp.com

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names of individuals for initial oVirt board
by Carl Trieloff 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

I started updating the document from our side, in that regard I would like companies to start to work out who is going to be on the board from each org. Good selections would be someone that can be hands on, from a tech or community perspective in and helping drive oVirt from aspect from releases, outreach, impl etc. Note that we will run pretty open board meetings so it does not mean that only that person can attend, but we do need to get the initial named set. For those that know him, for reference Chris Wright will be on in that role for Red Hat. If you need to discuss, give me a shout. kind regards Carl.

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-09-07
by Robyn Bergeron 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, September 7, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers Robyn Bergeron - Red Hat Jon Benedict - NetApp Carl Trieloff - Red Hat Itamar Heim - Red Hat Dave Stewart - Intel Kyle Mestery - Cisco Perry Myers - Red Hat Frank Novak - IBM Karsten Wade - Red Hat Tony Gargya - IBM == Project Schedule == * Confirm initial project invites by September 14 * Website Launch - September * oVirt Workshop - week of (October 24th or November 14th) * Community startup @ workshop * Press release post-workshop * Community Infrastructure Tasks - People - October - December (need list) * Governance * How to get involved * Community Infrastructure Tasks - Technology - Now - October/November (need list) * Source code release * ?? * First release - January/February. == Working Shared Document == (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == This Week's Action Items == * Owners to follow up on confirmations with (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Mike/Ryan of IBM, possibly Carl, to follow up on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) status. * Carl to update list with: (a) Updated briefing deck, (b) draft invitation letter * Robyn to update agenda for next week with time dedicated to review of deck, invitation letter * Dave Stewart to check with Intel on possibility of hosting space * Kyle Mestery to check with Cisco on possibility of hosting space * Carl to follow up with IBM on possibility of hosting space * Karsten to continue with infrastructure work, will be pushing updates to mailing list. * Itamar to continue working of naming of projects that will be pushed to the website, and send out an update of that list in the next few days. * Karsten to continue with website work == Agenda == 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike, Ryan) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * Confirmed but additional follow-up * Intel (additional contacts) (Mike Day) * New Dates * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - updating * Waiting on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: HTTP://LISTS.OVIRT.ORG/MAILMAN/PROJECT-PLANNING/2011-SEPTEMBER/000283.HTML) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waiting to hear back * IBM - (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html)? Haven't heard from Dan/Mike on that - no new news. 2) Project launch status * Need bullet list of remaining tasks before announcement date, schedule. See below. * Light Schedule additions listed in google doc: * Working on generic deck - taking info from briefing deck, updating it for a general briefing invitation - can be sent out to anyone or used at any event. ACTION - Carl to update mailing list. * Carl is also working on draft invitation email, hopes to have that sent to planning list by end of the week, looking for feedback. ACTION - Carlto update mailing list. * Thinking September 19th, or 15th for sending an invite- want to spend chunk of meeting next week to make sure everyone is okay with invite. ACTION - robyn update next week's agenda with review time. * Working of website - need to have website worked up enough to explain what event is looking like, what the event is, what the project is about, how to RSVP, etc. Karsten is driving. * 3 critical things to have done to start invites - updated deck, general email, basic update/refresh of website. * Carl to send first draft out of information. Don't need to dive into governance - just cover licensing, more info at launch event. * Actual launch dates: * Originally - week of october 21, week of nov. 14 * Feeling maybe previous week in November - week of Nov. 7. * May be problematic for RHT engineering * Better to do a NA/California location for initial workshop launch * Can use events like linuxcon, etc. to plug workshop * CA should be a good locatoin for a first initial audience * Jon Benedict - where are most of our attendees? * Need to do something in US and Europe - most companies are on international travel. Do a US launch at a major airport - CA, Chicago, Dallas. * We're all most likely to be travelling, regardless. * Much more travel for the Israeli team. * Hosting facilities in CA - IBM has previously volunteered, Intel possibly, Cisco? * Dave Stewart - Intel is a possibility (notes he may want to meet offline with Carl to get up to speed as well). ACTION: Dave to look into possibility of Intel hosting. * Cisco -ACTION: Kyle Mestery to look into possibility of hosting. * Over next week: Plan for feedback on-list, next call - editing invite, deck. * Logistically would be nice if we can get a preview of initial site for review before publishing. Karsten to follow up. * Website Launch - Karsten has contacted oVirt people who have been doing infrastructure work. * Will cut-over be to public info for workshop? Or will we update the whole site generally with forums, etc. on date of workshop? * One option - just have ovirt node info, other info private until cut-over * Perry has no issues with wiping existing website and taking content to a new subproject. * Karsten working on getting new pieces set up. * Karsten planning on working with what exists, standard HTML, adding a wiki in. * Need to have website in line by 19th or 15th, whichever date the letter goes out on. * Karsten welcome to have help, will be pushing things to mailing list. 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Settle date/location * Looks to be possibly California, Bay Area, week of Nov. 7. * Next Steps * See above in notes - need updated deck, invite, website refresh. * Need confirmation of location. Wait to hear back from potential facilities. * Current Workshop Attendee / Invitee list * (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) 4) Updated Slide Deck Status (Andy) * Carl is updating 5) Positioning/Differentiation Points (Karsten) * Need to add to updated slide deck * Not addressed this week in meeting 6) Governance Docs (Carl) * Carl holding on this until he gets the invitation material together. Welcome to have someone else draft these, or he'll start next week. * What are we working from? Carl: will be working from deck, will essentially borrowing from apache, gnome docs, etc. Should be able to quickly assemble from public and reusable existing docs. 7) Infrastructure (Open Agenda item) * Itamar is sorting out naming of projects coming from the RHT side, should see a mail or doc update later today. * Can get public infrastructure on BZ/mailing lists. Need names, etc. Need a consistent set of names being used. 8) Other updates: * If any other board-level orgs want to invite - just send Carl a mail. * Coordination of workshop - Robyn, Karsten. Carl to follow up with IBM, Cisco, Intel in bay area. * Kyle can talk to Cisco about possible hosting.

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oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-08-31
by Robyn Bergeron 07 Sep '11

07 Sep '11

oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, Aug 31 2011, 17:30 UTC (1:30pm US Eastern, 10:30am US Pacific) NOTE: Meeting moves next week, details in minutes below. == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers Present: Andy Cathrow (Red Hat) Mike Evans (Red Hat) Itamar Heim (Red Hat) Jim Jagielski (Red Hat) Mike Day (IBM) Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) Perry Myers (Red Hat) Karsten Wade (Red hat) Adam Mendoza (NetApp) Jim Wasko (IBM) Ryan Harper (IBM) (If I missed your name, again, sorry - a ton of noise all at once. I may drop the attendees section in the future since meeting notes reflect a lot of the participation - takes too much time out of a short meeting to try and capture who is on.) == Project Schedule == * Confirm initial project invites by September 14 * Website Launch - September * oVirt Workshop - week of (October 24th or November 14th) * Community startup @ workshop * Press release post-workshop * Community Infrastructure Tasks - People - October - December (need list) * Governance * How to get involved * Community Infrastructure Tasks - Technology - Now - October/November (need list) * Source code release * ?? * First release - January/February. == Working Shared Document == (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == Week's Action Items == * Everyone: Please notify Carl or Robyn of people not yet subscribed to project-planning mailing list that should be. (ongoing) * Everyone: list speaking/engagement opportunities in the Google Doc, use times to advertise workshop. (Section 8) (ongoing) * Action: Robyn to continue driving Workshop location / participation on list. * Action: All - Need to add companies we are in discussions with ((COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) for example) to invite list for workshop * Action: Karsten to drive mailing discussion on positioning/differentiation, interaction with other communities. * Action: Jim J. to follow up with Karsten / Carl on first draft of website content. * Action: Robyn/Andy to work on updated slide set to send out. * Action: Karsten to drive mailing discussion on positioning/differentiation, interaction with other communities. * Action: Andy to loop back with Mike Day on contact details for (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Action: Robyn to send out updated meeting invites * Action: Mike Day to look into other parts of Intel - querying Mike Richmond from Intel from systems management perspective. * Action: Ryan/Mike of IBM to follow up with Anthony on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) convo (or Anthony can provide an update as well) == Agenda == 1) Board invites, status (Mike) * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * SUSE (Carl) - now confirmed * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) - need update. * New status Mike day is aware of: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) - Waitng to hear back from people in Virt. * Action: Andy to loop back with Mike Day on contact details for (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Other: * Other folks on call / list are allowed to speak with other potential invites * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) as prospect - * Mike Day to look into other parts of Intel - querying Mike Richmond from Intel from systems management perspective. 2) Settle ongoing meeting time slot * Agreed - 10am Wednesdays * Robyn to send out updated invites 3) Updated slide set (Robyn) * Things to update: * Consistent feedback has been: * How do we envision the board - when is the board elected - etc. * Info on board being fluid, larger, more board members * NEED TO: Crisp up slides that clarify board role and members * How does this relate to OpenStack, other projects that may be a conflict * Need to be clear about why it's not a conflict * Define plans on interaction with other communities * NEED TO add FAQ or slide to stack re: Other communities. * Slides around deliverables - define what RHEV was or IS * Need to update with current board members, schedule., workshop info. * Action: Robyn/Andy to work on updated slide set to send out. * Need additional slide set to send out to non-board but community participants, esp. to get participation in the initial workshop. * To be a condensed version of Board slide deck * Action pending Robyn/Andy update of original slide deck. 4) OpenStack discussion (added mid-meeting) * Everyone in industry has joined * Why are we competing * IBM doesn't want support/sponsorship of oVirt to say anything about what they are doing or plan to do with OpenStack. * Team Thoughts: * We may be conflicting at some point * OS is not nearly as open of a community, really only 2 companies rep'd on board * More of a cloud vendor solution, oVirt more of a data center virt solution * OpenStack not as concerned with Data Center solutions * OpenStack can build on top of oVirt, in addition to Nova * We are KVM specific * We don't restrict our scope - open to a wide range of contributions * Key differentiator - we are focused on building a community from the ground up, that develops the open source projecss and projects, board is not restricting/driving direction * Following the Open Source Way * Action: Karsten to drive mailing discussion on positioning/differentiation, interaction with other communities. * Jim J. happy to take lead on any specific community questions people have. 4) Website launch (Karsten, Carl, Jim J.) * Status on first-pass of site content * Jim has started drafting some content/blog post for an intro. He's going to clean up and send to Karsten / Carl for feedback. * Karsten is working on getting up a wiki instance in a private space for us in the meantime, should be up in the next week. 5) oVirt Workshop / Summit (Karsten/Robyn) * Workshop participation - attendee list status (Robyn) * We still need names. PLEASE ADD THEM. * Please reach out to your teams internally or add their names proactively. * Action: If you were a touch point in inviting someone to the board who is NOT representing on the Workshop list - please reach out to them. * Location * Tentatively considering colocation with LinuxCon Europe. * WANT TO DECIDE BY END OF WEEK. * Action: Robyn to continue driving on list. * Action: Need to add companies we are in discussions with ((COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) for example) to invite list. * Non-Board invitees - Need to frame how to invite. * Pending updated slideset for non-board members. * Current Workshop Attendee / Invitee list: (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) 6) Governance Docs (Carl) * Carl out this week. 7) Infrastructure (Open Agenda item) * Need more discussion on google doc - Robyn to prod on mailing list.

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oVirt Sync Call Agenda :: 2011-09-07
by Robyn Bergeron 06 Sep '11

06 Sep '11

Please note the new meeting time tomorrow, listed in agenda below - you should have received an updated meeting invite. If you are new to the list and do not currently have an invite on your calendar for the sync call, let me know. Thanks, -Robyn oVirt Sync Call Agenda Wednesday, September 7, 2011 - 14:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning(a)ovirt.org list subscribers == Project Schedule == * Confirm initial project invites by September 14 * Website Launch - September * oVirt Workshop - week of (October 24th or November 14th) * Community startup @ workshop * Press release post-workshop * Community Infrastructure Tasks - People - October - December (need list) * Governance * How to get involved * Community Infrastructure Tasks - Technology - Now - October/November (need list) * Source code release * ?? * First release - January/February. == Working Shared Document == (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) == Agenda == 1) Board invites, status * New confirmations / Follow-up on confirmations in progress: * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike, Ryan) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Mike Day) * (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (Jan W.) * Confirmed but additional follow-up * Intel (additional contacts) (Mike Day) 2) Project launch status * Announcement date * Need bullet list of remaining tasks before announcement date, schedule * PR resources 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit * Workshop participation - attendee list status * Settle date/location * Next Steps * Current Workshop Attendee / Invitee list * (URL REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) 4) Updated Slide Deck Status (Andy) 5) Positioning/Differentiation Points (Karsten) * Need to add to updated slide deck 6) Governance Docs (Carl) * Status 7) Infrastructure (Open Agenda item) * Other mailing lists * Source code release 8) Your Agenda Item Here == Previous Action Items == * Action: All - Need to add companies we are in discussions with ((COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) for example) to invite list for workshop * Action: Karsten to drive mailing discussion on positioning/differentiation, interaction with other communities. * Action: Jim J. to follow up with Karsten / Carl on first draft of website content. * Action: Robyn/Andy to work on updated slide set to send out. * Action: Karsten to drive mailing discussion on positioning/differentiation, interaction with other communities. * Action: Andy to loop back with Mike Day on contact details for (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) * Action: Robyn to send out updated meeting invites * Action: Mike Day to look into other parts of Intel - querying Mike Richmond from Intel from systems management perspective. * Action: Ryan/Mike of IBM to follow up with Anthony on (COMPANY NAME REDACTED - INFO: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/project-planning/2011-September/000283.html) convo (or Anthony can provide an update as well)

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