October 2011 - Board - oVirt List Archives

Problem with project names.
by Yaniv Dary 24 Oct '11

24 Oct '11

Hi, I'm Yaniv the maintainer of the ovirt DWH & Reports projects. I see that there are mistakes in the projects page: - The dwh project is called history this should be changed to data warehouse or dwh and the Bugzilla category from ovirt-engine-history to ovirt-dwh. We will probably add more sources other then the engine db as some point the name should reflect that. - The reports project Bugzilla category should also be changed from ovirt-engine-reports to ovirt-reports, because the reports will also be based on data not only from the engine, since it's built over the ovirt_history database. Thanks! --- Yaniv Dary BI Software Engineer Red Hat Israel Ltd. 34 Jerusalem Road Building A, 4th floor Ra'anana, Israel 43501 Tel : +972 (9) 7692306 72306 Email: ydary(a)redhat.com IRC : Yaniv D

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Re: Policy for applying copyright notices
by Jan Wildeboer 23 Oct '11

23 Oct '11

Even worse, stripping (c) notes is illegal in many jurisdictions. Years ago it was eactly what someone did to one of my projects (osCommerce) and I succesfully sued them in a german court. It was one of the first cases of GPL in court, BTW and the offender had to restore all original copyrigt notices. #justsayin Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn | _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB ----- Original Message ----- From: board-bounces(a)ovirt.org <board-bounces(a)ovirt.org> To: Livnat Peer <lpeer(a)redhat.com> Cc: board(a)ovirt.org <board(a)ovirt.org> Sent: Sun Oct 23 09:37:48 2011 Subject: Re: Policy for applying copyright notices On 10/22/2011 01:18 PM, Livnat Peer wrote: > I personally rather dropping the [name of copyright owner] I believe > that's why we have history in the source control. That is also fine. Note that if a file is brought to the project it is considered bad form to strip the copyright notice, so over time we will get a collection of files with notices and without over time if code is re-used from other OSS projects. Carl. _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

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Re: Policy for applying copyright notices
by Jan Wildeboer 22 Oct '11

22 Oct '11

Not everybody will get sources from git. When distributed as tarball this info is lost. It is thus always good to be able to reconstruct from the file contents itself. Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn | _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB ----- Original Message ----- From: board-bounces(a)ovirt.org <board-bounces(a)ovirt.org> To: cctrieloff(a)redhat.com <cctrieloff(a)redhat.com> Cc: board(a)ovirt.org <board(a)ovirt.org> Sent: Sat Oct 22 13:18:28 2011 Subject: Re: Policy for applying copyright notices On 10/19/2011 02:12 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > On 10/18/2011 05:31 PM, Richard Fontana wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 01:41:04PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote: >>> > On 10/18/2011 12:35 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > >I would like to add to the site some text around applying the >>>> > >copyright >>>> > >statement per the license text as per >>>> > >http://www.ovirt.org/about/licensing/ >>>> > > >>>> > >In the piece at the top of the license, there is a section >>>> > > >>>> > >"Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]" >>> > >>> > This will remain a recommendation, right? It would be difficult for >>> > us to get approval to use something other than the IBM corporate >>> > standard copyright notice (which does change every couple years). >>> > It seems (C) comes in and out of style over time :-) >> That line is actually from the appendix of the Apache License 2.0, >> which gives a recommended copyright notice. >> >> I'm sympathetic to the view that precise formal details of copyright >> notices should not be mandated. At Red Hat, I think the "(C)" may have >> been historically recommended, but I have non-actively promoted >> non-use of it on principles of minimalism :-). >> >> I think, however, that Carl was suggesting a rule that *some* suitable >> form of copyright notice be placed by the author of an original file, >> not mandating what the form would be. > > correct. > > Carl. > I personally rather dropping the [name of copyright owner] I believe that's why we have history in the source control. There is one person adding the file and other X (X likely > 1) people changing it, I see no reason crediting the one who added the file. We had a discussion on this in the engine-core project some time ago and we decided to remove all credits to file creators. If not accepted as a general rule for all oVirt projects I would like to suggest that this can be decided/changed on a project level. Livnat _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

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I've updated the projects page (new css)
by Carl Trieloff 20 Oct '11

20 Oct '11

And I have added a table to oVirt projects incubating. http://www.ovirt.org/project/subprojects/ Carl.

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[RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC
by Anthony Liguori 19 Oct '11

19 Oct '11

This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to participate in IRC meetings. I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude having occasional phone calls if necessary. Regards, Anthony Liguori

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Voting in new projects in to the incubator.
by Carl Trieloff 19 Oct '11

19 Oct '11

Adam, Isaac, I have read through the wiki pages Mom -- http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_MOM Nomad -- http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad >From what I see the main information is there, except resources required. Can we add a section on what infrastructure to create for the project. I.e. Bugzilla (y/n) devel list (y/n) patches (y/n) commits (y/n) Other than that I believe we should be good to accept the project into the incubator based on our updated process. If you can add that, and I'll start a vote to accept them into oVirt incubator. Also... The details of the incubator that Jim wrote up for us can be found on http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ I also believe we should write a graduation check list which I will work on shortly for review. regards Carl.

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Need a wiki user account
by Adam Litke 18 Oct '11

18 Oct '11

Hi all, Could someone who already has an account on the oVirt wiki create the account 'aglitke' for me? I would like to add a page for the MOM subproject proposal. Thanks! -- Adam Litke <agl(a)us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center

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Fwd: RE: Voting in new projects in to the incubator.
by Isaac Christoffersen 18 Oct '11

18 Oct '11

resend -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Voting in new projects in to the incubator. Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 14:12:07 -0400 From: Isaac Christoffersen <isaac.christoffersen(a)vizuri.com> To: cctrieloff(a)redhat.com <cctrieloff(a)redhat.com>, board(a)ovirt.org <board(a)ovirt.org>, Isaac Christoffersen <isaac.christoffersen(a)vizuri.com>, agl(a)us.ibm.com <agl(a)us.ibm.com> Yes. I'll update it later tonight. -- Isaac Christoffersen Sr. Software Engineer, Vizuri web :: www.vizuri.com -------- Original message -------- Subject: Voting in new projects in to the incubator. From: Carl Trieloff <cctrieloff(a)redhat.com> To: "board(a)ovirt.org" <board(a)ovirt.org>,Isaac Christoffersen <isaac.christoffersen(a)vizuri.com>,Adam Litke <agl(a)us.ibm.com> CC: Adam, Isaac, I have read through the wiki pages Mom -- http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_MOM Nomad -- http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Project_Proposal_-_Nomad >From what I see the main information is there, except resources required. Can we add a section on what infrastructure to create for the project. I.e. Bugzilla (y/n) devel list (y/n) patches (y/n) commits (y/n) Other than that I believe we should be good to accept the project into the incubator based on our updated process. If you can add that, and I'll start a vote to accept them into oVirt incubator. Also... The details of the incubator that Jim wrote up for us can be found on http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ I also believe we should write a graduation check list which I will work on shortly for review. regards Carl.

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Bringing in new projects.
by Carl Trieloff 18 Oct '11

18 Oct '11

Jim drafted this for us, I have made a few edits. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KeJgV8v8FT23Aln0gRsF7qOW1H6iOMWjHuMOhs5… Comments please. I suggest we place to first section on the "Adding a Project" page and the the second section to the "Project Maturity" page regards Carl.

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Re: Need a wiki user account
by Jan Wildeboer 13 Oct '11

13 Oct '11

NACK. Accounts per person preferred. Attributiion is based on people, not on membership in a group IMHO ;-) So jwildeboer is preferred ;-) Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn | _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB ----- Original Message ----- From: board-bounces(a)ovirt.org <board-bounces(a)ovirt.org> To: board(a)ovirt.org <board(a)ovirt.org> Sent: Mon Oct 10 16:27:51 2011 Subject: Re: Need a wiki user account How about if I create a wiki account for everyone on this list (board@)? - Karsten ----- Original Message ----- > On 10/10/2011 11:37 AM, Adam Litke wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Could someone who already has an account on the oVirt wiki create > > the account > > 'aglitke' for me? I would like to add a page for the MOM > > subproject proposal. > > > > Thanks! > > > sure, I'll do it a bit later today. > > Carl. > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board > -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 _______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board

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