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Request to step down
by Jim Jagielski 05 Jul '12

05 Jul '12

I feel the need for a Mentor-as-board-member slot is no longer required. I therefore ask to step down, unless the rest of the board feels otherwise. -- Jim Jagielski | jimjag(a)redhat.com | 443-324-8390 (cell)

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oVirt Workshop at LinuxCon North America
by Leslie Hawthorn 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Hello everyone, Following up from this week's IRC meeting, we've asked the Linux Foundation to replicate the agenda from LinuxCon Japan on the LC North America site. That's in process, but they'd like us to get the names and bios of our confirmed speakers to them no later than next Wednesday, 27 June 2012. I'll leave it to everyone to wrangle about who would like to speak and cover particular sessions. My goal with this workshop is to have a more diverse speaker line up, so please do volunteer if you're attending LinuxCon North America and would be willing to lead a session(s). [0] - https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/ovirt-gluster-work… Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat identi.ca/lh twitter.com/lhawthorn

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Re: [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt?
by Itamar Heim 29 Jun '12

29 Jun '12

On 06/29/2012 06:15 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: > I must admit the first part of managing GlusterFS with 3.3 works very > well out of the box on oVirt 3.1. > > Turn on GlusterFS in the cluster > Add your nodes > Manually add the peers in Gluster > Edit /etc/nfsmount.conf and set Defaultproto=tcp and Defaultvers=3 > Create your gluster volume > Start the volume > Mount it in on one of your nodes in say /mnt > chown 36.36 /mnt > > The only problem now is that you have to now use the volume as a NFS > server. why not as posixfs?

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Re: storage domain recovery (was [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt?)
by Itamar Heim 28 Jun '12

28 Jun '12

On 06/28/2012 02:57 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > As for the question of stability the file storage system in 3.0 can be a > bit unstable. If your NFS share disappears for a few mins the file > system tends to go offline and wont reactivate. Not sure about iscsi or > FC since I don't have access to those file systems. 3.1 adds distinction between a storage domain going down due to an error or admin maintaining it. in case of an error, there is a new recovery mechanism in 3.1 which should improve this. Itamar

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2012-06-27
by Ofer Schreiber 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-27-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-27-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-27-14.00.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by oschreib at 14:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-27-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (oschreib, 14:00:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 (oschreib, 14:12:20) * Status of next release (oschreib, 14:12:41) * GA date is July 9th (oschreib, 14:12:53) * 11 blocker currently in the 3.1 tracker (oschreib, 14:13:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 (oschreib, 14:13:32) * Sanlock locking failed for readonly devices (component: libvirt, status: ASSIGNED) (oschreib, 14:16:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828633 (oschreib, 14:16:32) * IDEA: the feature owner can put the wiki page in a different category e.g. [[Category:Feature complete]] (quaid, 14:16:56) * patch waiting for a review (oschreib, 14:18:12) * It's impossible to create bond with setupNetworks (component: vdsm, status: ASSIGNED) (oschreib, 14:19:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831998 (oschreib, 14:19:23) * merged upstream, waiting for the Fedora backport (oschreib, 14:23:01) * vdsmd init script times out due to lengthy semanage operation (component: vdsm, status: POST) (oschreib, 14:23:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832199 (oschreib, 14:23:57) * patch in review (oschreib, 14:26:55) * 3.1: sshd daemon is not starting correctly after complete the installation of oVirt Node (component: node, status: MODIFIED) (oschreib, 14:27:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832517 (oschreib, 14:27:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832199 (danken, 14:29:05) * bug fixed, new node build today if possible (oschreib, 14:30:01) * ACTION: mburns to build and upload new node version (oschreib, 14:30:14) * 3.1: iptables blocking communication between node and engine (component: node, status: MODIFIED) (oschreib, 14:31:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832539 (oschreib, 14:31:36) * should be in next build (oschreib, 14:33:07) * ovirt-node can't be approved due to missing /rhev/data-center (component: vdsm, status: ON_QA) (oschreib, 14:33:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832577 (oschreib, 14:33:51) * waiting for a verification (oschreib, 14:35:29) * 3.1 Allow to create VLANed network on top of existing bond (component: vdsm, status: POST) (oschreib, 14:36:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833119 (oschreib, 14:36:20) * pushed upstream, should be backported tomorrow to Fedora (oschreib, 14:40:56) * Failed to add host - does not accept vdsm 4.10 (component: vdsm, status: ON_QA) (oschreib, 14:41:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833201 (oschreib, 14:41:33) * waiting for a verification (oschreib, 14:43:51) * [vdsm][bridgeless] BOOTPROTO/IPADDR/NETMASK options are not set on interface (component: vdsm, status: NEW) (oschreib, 14:44:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834281 (oschreib, 14:44:26) * not a 3.1 blocker (oschreib, 14:51:06) * Leak of keystore file descriptors in ovirt-engine (component: engine, status: MODIFIED) (oschreib, 14:52:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=834399 (oschreib, 14:52:08) * pushed and backported, waiting for a build (oschreib, 14:52:22) * Sub-project reports (oschreib, 14:55:08) * status covered in BZ overview (oschreib, 14:57:17) * Upcoming workshops (oschreib, 14:57:29) * no updates about upcoming workshops (oschreib, 14:59:25) * Release notes (oschreib, 14:59:56) * 3.1 release notes should be given to sgordon by mail (oschreib, 15:04:51) * ACTION: oschreib to nag maintainers about RN (oschreib, 15:06:04) Meeting ended at 15:08:51 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mburns to build and upload new node version * oschreib to nag maintainers about RN Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mburns * mburns to build and upload new node version * oschreib * oschreib to nag maintainers about RN * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * oschreib (119) * sgordon (24) * danken (18) * RobertM (10) * ilvovsky (8) * quaid (6) * fabiand (6) * mburns (4) * ofrenkel (3) * READ10 (2) * ovirtbot (2) * Guest1297 (1) * crobinso (1) * dustins (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop
by Leslie Hawthorn 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hello everyone, I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of business this Friday, 15 June. Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1] If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop, please include that in your feedback. - Course Material What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement? Any additional sessions we'd suggest? - Audience Participation How many attendees? How did the Q&A periods go? Would we like to prepare a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.) - Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce relationships with existing community members? - Promotion of the event, both before and after What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to promote this content? - A/V and Room Set up Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the A/V work well, including the videotaping process? - Food and beverage Did the catered in lunch help to keep the flow of the workshop productive? Was the food of good quality and in keeping with the needs of attendee dietary constraints? - Give aways We did not produce attendee gifts for the oVirt workshop. Thoughts on whether this would be a welcome addition in the future? Suggestions for type of gift also welcome. - Any other feedback If it is preferable to discuss this feedback real-time, I will ask Mike Burns to give us more time for this topic during next week's oVirt IRC meeting. [0] - https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/ovirt-gluster-work… [1] - http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat identi.ca/lh twitter.com/lhawthorn

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Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Meeting 2012-06-20
by Mike Burns 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

The next oVirt Weekly Meeting is scheduled for 2012-06-20 at 15:00 UTC (10:00 AM EDT). Current Agenda Items (as of this email) * Status of Next Release * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node) * Upcoming workshops Latest Agenda is listed here: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings#Weekly_project_sync_meeting Reminder: If you propose an additional agenda item, please be present for the meeting to lead the discussion on it. Thanks Mike

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oVirt initiatives
by Dave Neary 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

Hi all, With a number of colleagues and members of the oVirt community, we have been thinking about how we can help oVirt's adoption and increase developer participation and diversity in the project. What we've come up with is a broad definition of the target audience for the project, and a three-phase set of initiatives we believe will help the project be more successful. I'm bringing this to the board list because I would really like your feedback and assistance in helping make this a reality - it's important for me to know that we're proposing things which the project & community think are important. The sample user we discussed (based on feedback from Users and the persona I sent previously was a cost-sensitive sysadmin, potentially looking to move to a KVM-based virtualisation solution, working on a small virtualisation set-up in a test lab environment. He loves open source because it means he can test and deploy it without approval, adoption is bottom-up, and he can tweak it to suit his needs. We want to focus on people who want to download and try it in ~30 minutes - running an engine and a node on the same machine (potentially a laptop or desktop machine) and on getting people started with small set-ups - perhaps two nodes and a laptop running the engine. Given that target audience and positioning, the three phases we propose are: Phase 1: Web presence We want to review the website and wiki to ensure that the content is appropriate for our target audience, that we're making it easy to adopt oVirt. This will cover the top level navigation, the organisation of information in the website and wiki to make it easy to find, development of new content to focus on the beginner experience (including videos, tutorials, and screenshots). At the end of this, when someone from our core audience comes to the website it should be immediately clear to him that we are offering a solution to a problem he has. We plan to start working on this through the Infra, Users and engine-devel mailing lists (depending on which one is most appropriate) immediately, and complete this work in the next 3 months. Phase 2: Adoption We need packages for all the main Linux distributions. Packaging oVirt for OSes other than Fedora is tricky because of various differences in config file placement, low-level tools and so on. But this must get done, and we'd like for it to be a priority for the project. We also want to help the project with its promotion - both in terms of content on the site, and driving traffic here through conference outreach, articles in tech press, social media and blogs pringing people here via the nice to consume content (videos, tutorials, etc) which we would like to see produced. In addition, we would like to ask for your help in running a set of oVirt meet-ups around the world, with the co-operation of board members, to show oVirt to the people who are interested in it, and prefer a high-touch approach. This will take longer, but we expect to see some movement on this front in the next 6 to 9 months. Phase 3: Expanding the target audience While the low-end user with small virtualisation will help us drive adoption, we also want to help oVirt appeal to a broader audience. We'd like to help do a UX review of the installation and configuration process, and the Engine UI, to make the oVirt experience more pleasant for both limited-hardware users (people using all-in-one in 3.1) and for more sophisticated users. This is a longer term goal, of cours,e but we would like to see the results of this UX review in a future release of oVirt in ~12 to 15 months. Looking forward to your feedback! Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62

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Re: How to go about building up trust?
by Carl Trieloff 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

On 06/22/2012 01:04 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> > A shell and limited sudo access might be a good place to start. > > Wouldn't be able to fix everything but might be able to help in area's > were the current group isn't strong or able to fix some outage problems. +1, I also think it is time for us as a project to start taking steps to start bringing those into the project who have be around awhile and are know quantities. generally I would advise that we are a little more lenient mature the procedures as the project matures. Carl.

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2012-06-20
by Mike Burns 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-20-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-20-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-20-14.00.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by mburns at 14:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-20-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (mburns, 14:01:16) * Status of next release (mburns, 14:04:16) * 9 bugs in 3.1 release tracker (oschreib, 14:06:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 (oschreib, 14:06:16) * current targeted GA is 27-June (mburns, 14:06:22) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/releases/beta/fedora/17/ (oschreib, 14:10:03) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/releases/beta/fedora/17/ (mburns, 14:10:34) * new beta build (3.1.0-0.1.20120620git6ef9f8.fc17) available (oschreib, 14:10:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828633 (oschreib, 14:11:36) * libvirt - Sanlock locking failed for readonly devices (MODIFIED) (oschreib, 14:11:57) * waiting on danpb (oschreib, 14:25:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828633 (mburns, 14:25:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831998 (oschreib, 14:26:37) * VDSM - It's impossible to create bond with setupNetworks (ASSIGNED) (oschreib, 14:26:58) * WIP (oschreib, 14:29:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832199 (oschreib, 14:31:02) * VDSM - vdsmd init script times out due to lengthy semanage operation (ASSIGNED) (oschreib, 14:31:21) * WIP (oschreib, 14:35:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832517 (oschreib, 14:36:43) * node - sshd daemon is not starting correctly after complete the installation of oVirt Node (NEW) (oschreib, 14:36:58) * WIP, fix to be push in the next couple of days (oschreib, 14:37:42) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832539 (oschreib, 14:37:55) * node - iptables blocking communication between node and engine (POST) (oschreib, 14:38:06) * in review, should be in next build (oschreib, 14:38:46) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832577 (oschreib, 14:38:56) * vdsm - ovirt-node can't be approved due to missing /rhev/data-center (POST) (oschreib, 14:39:15) * pushed upstream, need to rebase to ovirt-3.1 branch (oschreib, 14:40:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=833201 (oschreib, 14:40:39) * vdsm - Failed to add host - does not accept vdsm 4.10 (POST) (oschreib, 14:41:09) * pushed (oschreib, 14:42:42) * ACTION: douglas please push http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/5379/ upstream and to ovirt-3.1 (danken, 14:46:12) * ACTION: douglas please push http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/5379/ upstream and to ovirt-3.1 (oschreib, 14:47:52) * AGREED: GA will be postponed to the 9th of July (oschreib, 14:53:58) * upcoming workshops (mburns, 14:56:11) * feedback from LC Japan (mburns, 14:57:50) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/LC_Japan_Workshop_Post-Mortem (mburns, 14:57:56) * time to begin planning for LC North America (San Diego, Aug 29-31) (mburns, 14:58:34) * linux.conf.au has reached out requesting oVirt related presentations (mburns, 15:01:16) * LINK: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon/co-located-events (dneary, 15:03:01) * lh to send agenda to LinuxCon North America (mburns, 15:04:23) * other topics (mburns, 15:04:52) * ACTION: sgordon to send email about release notes (mburns, 15:05:50) * ACTION: dneary to ensure that discussion starts on infra@ on the creation of a community infrastructure team (dneary, 15:12:46) * ACTION: dneary to ensure that discussion starts on infra@ on the creation of a community infrastructure team (mburns, 15:13:09) Meeting ended at 15:15:08 UTC. 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Re: [Users] Following Up on LinuxCon Japan Workshop
by Barak Azulay 19 Jun '12

19 Jun '12

On 06/17/2012 10:00 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote: > On 06/14/2012 06:02 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: >> On 06/14/2012 02:41 AM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> Hi Leslie, >>> >>> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 15:14 -0700, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I'd like to collect feedback from everyone on last week's oVirt workshop >>>> at LinuxCon Japan. [0] Please reply back with comments by close of >>>> business this Friday, 15 June. >>>> >>>> Once we have gathered feedback on list, I'll capture it on the oVirt >>>> wiki. We can then use what we've learned to help construct the agenda >>>> and other plans for other upcoming oVirt workshops at LinuxCons. [1] >>>> >>>> If you know that you would like to volunteer as an instructor for future >>>> workshops or would like to suggest alternate content for the workshop, >>>> please include that in your feedback. >>>> >>>> - Course Material >>>> What sessions were most well received? Which ones require improvement? >>>> Any additional sessions we'd suggest? >>> >>> All of the sessions seemed to be well received. I don't know that any >>> need blatant improvement, though they could probably all take a bit of >>> slide updates. The ovirt-node presentation was especially out of date >>> (my fault) with it's screenshots. >>> >> >> >> I would like to add: >> - a demo is a must in a workshop, as it is the most effective and >> impressive way to attract people. >> - I think the ovirt-engine presentation needs a bit more meat > What stuff do you think we need to add to this presentation? > Can you be more specific? > Thanks, > > Yair - better diagrams - code structure - go over a simple example-command work flow - from entry till DB ... and many more > >> - I would also add vertical presentations: >> * ovirt network >> * ovirt storage >> * ovirt vm life cycle >> Of course all the above should be presented after the arch& demo >> presentation >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> - Audience Participation >>>> How many attendees? How did the Q&A periods go? Would we like to prepare >>>> a post-event attendee survey? (I recommend we do the survey and can >>>> prepare some questions for the group if that's useful.) >>> >>> There were probably between 25-35 people through the course of the day >>> for all the presentations. >> >> >> I gave also an intro/arch talk also in the virt mini-summit, I actually >> gave 2. >> I volunteered to cover for one of the presenters that surprisingly >> didn't show up on time, because of the confusion this session was rather >> small (~40) >> In the second one (in my scheduled slot), there were about ~80. >> >> >> >>> >>> There wasn't really a lot of time set aside for Q&A aside from a few >>> minutes at the end of each presentation and the breaks in between >>> presentations. During those times, there generally were people asking >>> questions. >> >> >> Actually I wasn't expecting too many questions due to the different >> culture of the audience, but we did get questions and people showed >> interest. >> Most of the interesting questions came during the breaks, and I had a >> few white-board sessions with those people. >> >> >> >>> >>> I think we should prepare the survey in advance of the next workshop and >>> ask people to fill it out during the workshop, rather than coming back a >>> couple weeks after the fact. We didn't really collect names of the >>> people in attendance and I expect that a fair number of people >>> registered attended the Gluster Conference. >>> >> >> The linux foundation scanned all the participants tags, so I guess they >> can supply the names. >> >> >>>> >>>> - Developer/user traction resulting from engaging at workshop >>>> Did this workshop help us to gain new developers or users? Reinforce >>>> relationships with existing community members? >>> >>> Only time will really tell here. People definitely seemed interested >>> and there were a couple people already downloading and installing the >>> bits during the workshop. I got the impression that most of the people >>> there were more corporate focused -- Hitachi and Fujitsu were both well >>> represented. They're from companies that have previously expressed >>> interest in the project. >>> >> >> >> Hard to tell, >> I had a feeling that there was also a none developers group that came >> also to learn about ovirt, more of the consultant type that actually >> considering ovirt as an option. >> >> >>>> >>>> - Promotion of the event, both before and after >>>> What could be done to more effectively promote the event prior to the >>>> workshops? Videos and slides from the workshop should be posted on the >>>> LC Japan site tomorrow; what action would the community like to take to >>>> promote this content? >>> >>> Not really my area of expertise -- promoting. Probably better to get >>> information out there earlier that the workshop is happening. It seemed >>> to be a bit of a fire drill getting things together for this workshop >>> since it was only about a month before that we decided to run it. >>> Future workshops shouldn't be as big a deal. >>> >> >> >> I would say we need a lot of promotion, I was actually accessed by a few >> people after the into presentation, saying they had no idea that ovirt >> is so mature and feature reach. >> This message should be conveyed before the workshop. >> >> >> >>> Probably an email announcement to users@ with a link to the >>> presentations/videos is the right next step. >>>> >>>> - A/V and Room Set up >>>> Did the seating arrangements work well for the workshop format? Did the >>>> A/V work well, including the videotaping process? >>> >>> Our room was setup with 5 round tables seating 10 people each. I'm not >>> sure that it was really the right layout. I expected either rows of >>> chairs or long tables with chairs all facing the presentation screen. >>> >>> A/V worked seamlessly. It was all setup already when we arrived. >>> >> >> >> I would agree with Mike on the room setup. >> I would prefer facing the presentation rather than having to look aside. >> >> In addition and related to the preparations for the workshop, >> Since it was setup so late, the linux foundation thought that setting >> the workshop means canceling the mini-summit presentation slot. >> So all the handouts& schedule boards hanged around the summit did no >> include this talk, anyway eventually they hanged a hand written schedule >> update, but I assume more people would have come if they knew. >> >> The web schedule was updated. >> >> >>>> >>>> - Food and beverage >>>> Did the catered in lunch help to keep the flow of the workshop >>>> productive? Was the food of good quality and in keeping with the needs >>>> of attendee dietary constraints? >>> >>> I had no issues with the food. People seemed to take the opportunity >>> more to step out and take a break, rather than sit and continue >>> discussing. >>> >> >> I agree >> >>>> >>>> - Give aways >>>> We did not produce attendee gifts for the oVirt workshop. Thoughts on >>>> whether this would be a welcome addition in the future? Suggestions for >>>> type of gift also welcome. >>> >>> It would have been nice to have some sort of SWAG to give away, whether >>> just fancy handouts or stickers. It would be even better if we could >>> have some sort of appliance with ovirt pre-installed and configured on a >>> usb stick as well, but that's probably a year or 2 down the road. >>> >>>> >>>> - Any other feedback >>> >>> It's probably better if there are people from a wider range of the >>> sub-projects than we had in Japan. I think that between Barak and I, we >>> managed to cover the majority of the project, but I think it would be >>> better to have someone from each major subproject there. >>> >>> I expect that either myself or someone from the Node team will be >>> attending at least LinuxCon NA, LinuxCon Europe and the NetApp >>> workshops. We'll certainly handle the Node presentation for each of >>> these workshops. >>> >> >> >> It looks like ovirt& gluster workshops will happen side by side in the >> near future. >> I don't know if this is possible but I would do the workshops in >> different days (of the summit) so people that want to participate in >> both workshops can do it. >> I know for sure that in Japan many registered for both workshops >> >> >> >> Barak >> >>> Mike >>> >>>> >>>> If it is preferable to discuss this feedback real-time, I will ask Mike >>>> Burns to give us more time for this topic during next week's oVirt IRC >>>> meeting. >>>> >>>> [0] - >>>> https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-japan/ovirt-gluster-work… >>>> >>>> [1] - http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> LH >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Arch mailing list >>> Arch(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Arch mailing list >> Arch(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch >

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Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Meeting 2012-06-20
by Mike Burns 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

The next oVirt Weekly Meeting is scheduled for 2012-06-20 at 15:00 UTC (10:00 AM EDT). Current Agenda Items (as of this email) * Status of Next Release * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node) * Upcoming workshops * Test Day Post-Mortem Latest Agenda is listed here: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings#Weekly_project_sync_meeting Reminder: If you propose an additional agenda item, please be present for the meeting to lead the discussion on it. Thanks Mike

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What are you looking for from oVirt?
by Dave Neary 15 Jun '12

15 Jun '12

Hi everyone, That is a grand subject for my first "proper" email to the Users list, and it definitely needs some context! So let me introduce myself. My name is Dave Neary, and I recently started working for a group which is being formed inside Red Hat called OSAS (open source and standards). The role of my group is to help make any open source projects that Red Hat works in successful, and I would really like to help take oVirt to the next level in terms of adoption and contribution. One of the things I'm still figuring out is what the natural audience for oVirt is, and what you all like about oVirt, and would like to see improved. Based on that, I would like to propose areas we as a community can concentrate on related to the product, the website, and our marketing and promotion, but the first step is still to get a better idea what the target audience for oVirt is, and should be. So - how are you using oVirt? Why did you choose it over alternatives? What do you like about it? and what would you like to see change, whether that is in terms of technical, process, or marketing changes? I'm here to help, but to do so I need your help first! Please feel free to reply to me on-list (if you'd like to start discussion) or off-list (if you'd like your feedback to be more discrete). Any feedback at all will be helpful. Thank you very much - I look forward to hearing from as many of you as possible. Regards, Dave. PS. I'm still figuring out proper mailing list etiquette for this project - I've added board@ and arch@ to CC since I expect our work to have project-wide consequences, but it's more to keep people informed at this point. Please let me know off-list if I'm doing something I shouldn't! -- Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62

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Re: [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt?
by Andrew Cathrow 13 Jun '12

13 Jun '12

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Stratton" <nathan(a)robotics.net> > To: "Andrew Cathrow" <acathrow(a)redhat.com> > Cc: "arch" <arch(a)ovirt.org>, "Users" <users(a)ovirt.org>, "board" <board(a)ovirt.org>, "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:57:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt? > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Andrew Cathrow wrote: > > > What does your deployment look like - it's be great to understand > > how you're using it - eg. Linux guests only, Windows, size of > > deployment - do your users use poweruser portal etc. > > I have 2 deployments I am working on with two different companies. > > The first is two clusters (SJC and NYC) each with 20 boxes PXEBooted > to > a backend NetApp. All guests are Linux (Centos, RHEL, and Fedora). > One of > the unique things with the clusters is they use read only linux and > NFS > root. > > The 2nd is still in design stage, but is starting out with 3 clusters > (East / West US and Europe) each with 20 boxes. Each server is based > on > white label Xeon E5-2687W, 128GB RAM, 10GBase-T, and 12 SATA disks on > a > hardware RAID 6 controller. This is also going to use shared NFS read > only > root with PXEBoot from NetApps. > > I have been running GlusterFS on and off for 5 years and are looking > at > running GlusterFS on all the raw 300TB RAID6 in each server. Each > server > will be a brick, two servers with distribute for redundancy, 10 > distribute pairs then will be unified. I have been trying to use this > for > raw image store for years, but its just not ready, so we will use > NetApp > for that, however GlusterFS will be very handy for tier 2 bulk > storage. > > > GlusterFS and Quantum are certainly in the works, but in a separate > > thread I'd love to hear feedback on the API what the > > issues/enhancements are. > > Would you be able to post some initial comments on that? > > APIs are great today on the backend, we are looking at the ability to > modify the front end so we can tie it into our portal allowing users > to > manage their VMs seamless with the other services we offer. So are you looking to extend the power user portal or something more? > > ><> > Nathan Stratton > nathan at robotics.net > http://www.robotics.net >

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2012-06-13
by Mike Burns 13 Jun '12

13 Jun '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-13-14.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-13-14.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-13-14.01.log.html ========================= #ovirt: ovirt weekly sync ========================= Meeting started by mburns at 14:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-13-14.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call and agenda (mburns, 14:01:26) * Status for next release (mburns, 14:03:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 (mburns, 14:05:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824397 (mburns, 14:06:14) * status: Modified (mburns, 14:06:20) * in latest beta rpms (mburns, 14:08:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824420 (mburns, 14:08:22) * very close to completion on this bug, one issue still remaining, then build and post (mburns, 14:08:51) * engine will rebase to latest and rebuild (mburns, 14:11:45) * new packages to mburns before EOD (mburns, 14:11:55) * ovirt-node will try to post something for tomorrow (mburns, 14:12:25) * vdsm 4.10.0 built and will be posted today to beta area (mburns, 14:15:33) * ACTION: mburns to update when packages are posted to beta area (mburns, 14:16:32) * ACTION: mgoldboi to coordinate rpms for engine, clie, sdk, vdsm, guest-agent and send details of locations to mburns (mburns, 14:20:59) * ACTION: to post rpms to beta and send announcement (mburns, 14:21:12) * test day (mburns, 14:24:29) * community coordination for test day (mburns, 14:35:38) * each sub-project will have someone helping (mburns, 14:35:50) * ykaul will do cleanup of test day page (mburns, 14:36:00) * all issues should be track on the test day wiki (mburns, 14:36:12) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/wiki/Testing/OvirtTestDay (mburns, 14:36:57) * Workshops (mburns, 14:37:29) * LinuxCon Japan workshop help on Friday 8-June (mburns, 14:39:15) * post-mortem to be done next week for LC Japan (mburns, 14:39:43) * will need input from everyone on agenda for LC North America in August (mburns, 14:40:08) * How can OSAS team help? (mburns, 14:42:17) * OSAS == Open Source and Standards (mburns, 14:42:42) * infra team as a sub-project (mburns, 14:57:31) * LINK: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/19/ever-wondered-how-the-wikimedia-server… might be interesting in that regard (ewoud, 15:14:02) Meeting ended at 15:16:06 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mburns to update when packages are posted to beta area * mgoldboi to coordinate rpms for engine, clie, sdk, vdsm, guest-agent and send details of locations to mburns * to post rpms to beta and send announcement Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mburns * mburns to update when packages are posted to beta area * mgoldboi to coordinate rpms for engine, clie, sdk, vdsm, guest-agent and send details of locations to mburns * mgoldboi * mgoldboi to coordinate rpms for engine, clie, sdk, vdsm, guest-agent and send details of locations to mburns * **UNASSIGNED** * to post rpms to beta and send announcement People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mburns (146) * dneary (51) * RobertM (23) * aglitke (22) * mgoldboi (13) * lh (9) * itamar1 (9) * ewoud (7) * mpastern (7) * ovirtbot (7) * ykaul (6) * rharper (5) * sgordon (3) * lpeer (3) * garrett (3) * quaid (2) * danken (2) * coredumb (2) * rickyh (1) * Guest3690 (1) * ofrenkel (1) * jb_netapp (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Re: [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt?
by Andrew Cathrow 13 Jun '12

13 Jun '12

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Stratton" <nathan(a)robotics.net> > To: "Dave Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com> > Cc: "arch" <arch(a)ovirt.org>, "Users" <users(a)ovirt.org>, "board" <board(a)ovirt.org> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:29:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] What are you looking for from oVirt? > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Dave Neary wrote: > > > So - how are you using oVirt? Why did you choose it over > > alternatives? What > > do you like about it? and what would you like to see change, > > whether that is > > in terms of technical, process, or marketing changes? I'm here to > > help, but > > to do so I need your help first! > > Small private cloud deployments. We choose it because it was focused > on > KVM, RedHat driven, simple to manage, and libvirt based. Would love What does your deployment look like - it's be great to understand how you're using it - eg. Linux guests only, Windows, size of deployment - do your users use poweruser portal etc. > to see > real glusterfs integration, quantum integration, and better API. GlusterFS and Quantum are certainly in the works, but in a separate thread I'd love to hear feedback on the API what the issues/enhancements are. Would you be able to post some initial comments on that? thanks Aic > > ><> > Nathan Stratton > nathan at robotics.net > http://www.robotics.net > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

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Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Sync 2012-06-13
by Mike Burns 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

This is the agenda for the 2012-06-13 meeting: * Status of Next Release * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node) * Upcoming workshops Any other topics to discuss?

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Hosting MOM on gerrit.ovirt.org
by Adam Litke 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

We are currently in the process of integrating MOM with vdsm. Today the MOM code is hosted on github and the mailing lists are on Google Groups. Since the bulk of MOM development activity surrounds oVirt I would like to ask if oVirt would be willing to host it in gerrit and provide some mailing lists. Doing this will help interlock the development of these two projects. If there is affirmative agreement, I would request the following be created: Gerrit project / repo: mom - Please add aglitke <agl(a)us.ibm.com> as the project maintainer/admin Mailing lists: - mom-devel: Developement discussions for MOM - mom-patches: To be used for gerrit status notifications (ala vdsm-patches) Thanks for your consideration. -- Adam Litke <agl(a)us.ibm.com> IBM Linux Technology Center

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2012-06-06
by Ofer Schreiber 07 Jun '12

07 Jun '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-06-14.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-06-14.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-06-14.01.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by oschreib at 14:01:34 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-06-06-14.01.log.html Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (oschreib, 14:01:45) * Release status (oschreib, 14:04:32) * devel freeze June 7 (tomorrow) (oschreib, 14:04:44) * Beta shortly after (oschreib, 14:04:50) * GA June 27 (oschreib, 14:04:56) * test day June 14 (oschreib, 14:05:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824420 (oschreib, 14:06:51) * AGREED: ovirt 3.1 feature freeze will be 07.06.2012 (tomorrow) (oschreib, 14:09:04) * node should be ready few days after (oschreib, 14:09:17) * vdsm is in feature freeze (aglitke, 14:11:47) * AGREED: mburns will be release manager next week (oschreib, 14:13:31) * ACTION: mburns to replace oschreib as release manager next week (oschreib, 14:14:05) * sub project status -- vdsm (oschreib, 14:14:29) * AGREED: vdsm version should be bumped (oschreib, 14:20:20) * ACTION: danken to handle vdsm version until tomorrow (oschreib, 14:20:35) * sub project status -- engine (oschreib, 14:21:15) * things in good shape on the engine side (oschreib, 14:23:00) * sub project status -- node (oschreib, 14:23:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824420 (oschreib, 14:25:39) * node should support F17 in the next couple of days (oschreib, 14:26:01) * ACTION: fabiand to update BZ#824420 (oschreib, 14:26:50) * Workshops and Conferences (oschreib, 14:27:17) * bazulay and mburns are presenting ovirt in linux con Japan this week (oschreib, 14:29:40) * there will be an ovirt day in n linuxcon NA, then 2.5 co-hosted with kvm forum in linuxcon europe (oschreib, 14:31:43) * Other Topics (oschreib, 14:31:48) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/releases/beta/fedora/17/ (oschreib, 14:33:24) * pre feature freeze F17 builds (oschreib, 14:33:40) * ACTION: oschreib to look for test day lead (oschreib, 14:37:03) * vdsms's setupNetwork is broken (oschreib, 14:39:15) * ACTION: aglitke to link setupNetwork bug on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 (oschreib, 14:39:48) Meeting ended at 14:55:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mburns to replace oschreib as release manager next week * danken to handle vdsm version until tomorrow * fabiand to update BZ#824420 * oschreib to look for test day lead * aglitke to link setupNetwork bug on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * aglitke * aglitke to link setupNetwork bug on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822145 * danken * danken to handle vdsm version until tomorrow * fabiand * fabiand to update BZ#824420 * oschreib * mburns to replace oschreib as release manager next week * oschreib to look for test day lead People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * oschreib (99) * aglitke (31) * danken (24) * itamar (14) * ovirtbot (7) * ykaul (6) * doron (6) * fabiand (6) * dustins (3) * mgoldboi (3) * rickyh (2) * eedri (2) * yeylon_ (1) * sgordon_ (1) * mestery (1) * ykaul1 (1) * aaglitke (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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oVirt 3.1 Feature Freeze is TOMORROW (June 7th)
by Ofer Schreiber 06 Jun '12

06 Jun '12

Almost 4 month after oVirt's first release, we're one step closer to the next version. The Feature Freeze is scheduled for tomorrow, June 7th, and shortly after that, new "beta" builds should be uploaded into http://ovirt.org:/releases/beta Currently, http://ovirt.org:/releases/beta/fedora/17 is populated with "alpha" builds of oVirt. Feel free to test them, and share with us your feedback. Regards, -- Ofer Schreiber oVirt Release Manager

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Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Sync Meeting 2012-06-06
by Mike Burns 04 Jun '12

04 Jun '12

The current agenda is always listed on the wiki [1] Please reply if you have other agenda items to bring up. Also, as a reminder, If you propose a topic or are a maintainer of one of the core sub-projects, either you or a delegate need to be in attendance at the meeting to either drive your topic or give project status. Thanks Mike [1] http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings#Weekly_project_sync_meeting

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