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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2013-01-30
by Mike Burns 30 Jan '13

30 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-30-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-30-15.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-30-15.00.log.html ============================ #ovirt: oVirt weekly meeting ============================ Meeting started by mburns at 15:00:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-30-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (mburns, 15:01:17) * Workshop update (mburns, 15:03:28) * Sunnyvale workshop went great (mburns, 15:05:33) * almost 100 registered (~30% no-show for first 2 days) (mburns, 15:05:46) * board meeting had almost full attendance (mburns, 15:06:09) * got support for proposed marketing, now need to follow up with the community (mburns, 15:06:26) * next event: Oved Ourfali presenting on deltacloud integration into oVirt at Puppet Camp (mburns, 15:09:04) * FOSDEM -- we are out in force with the virt devroom (mburns, 15:09:23) * finalized dates for Shanghai workshop at Intel -- May 8-9 (mburns, 15:09:45) * release status (mburns, 15:11:55) * test day tomorrow (31-Jan) (mburns, 15:12:06) * beta announcement ready, to be sent later today (mburns, 15:12:21) * ovirt-node packages and image in final testing, to be posted today (mburns, 15:12:50) * ovirt-node blocked by vdsm bug 905728 (patch: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/11527/ ) (mburns, 15:14:03) * but we can workaround this issue in ovirt-node for the beta (mburns, 15:14:19) * Test Day: all are invited to participate (mburns, 15:16:42) * please sign up on http://www.ovirt.org/Testing/OvirtTestDay (mburns, 15:17:02) * ACTION: mburns to review testday wiki node section (mburns, 15:21:39) * ACTION: mburns to send out beta announcement (mburns, 15:21:50) * ACTION: mburns to post ovirt-node for beta/test day (mburns, 15:21:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=881006&hide_resolved=1 (mburns, 15:22:38) * ^^ a list of the bugs being tracked for the release (mburns, 15:23:05) * Bug 879180 -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879180 (mburns, 15:23:51) * New -- against NetworkManager (mburns, 15:24:01) * ACTION: ovirt-node bugs on the list are all targeted for the beta, mburns will update bugs later today (mburns, 15:27:17) * only bugs not at least on POST in the list (outside ovirt-node bugs) are 879180 and 884990 (mburns, 15:27:59) * both of which are in core fedora components (mburns, 15:28:13) * not ovirt components (mburns, 15:28:48) * Infra report (mburns, 15:35:27) * new hardware from AlterWay not set up yet, but in progress (mburns, 15:37:13) * infra team meetup at FOSDEM ( ewoud quaid dneary Rydekull ) (mburns, 15:38:18) * Other topics (mburns, 15:39:15) Meeting ended at 15:46:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mburns to review testday wiki node section * mburns to send out beta announcement * mburns to post ovirt-node for beta/test day * ovirt-node bugs on the list are all targeted for the beta, mburns will update bugs later today Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mburns * mburns to review testday wiki node section * mburns to send out beta announcement * mburns to post ovirt-node for beta/test day * ovirt-node bugs on the list are all targeted for the beta, mburns will update bugs later today * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mburns (94) * dneary (18) * oschreib (12) * mgoldboi (10) * danken1 (6) * Rydekull (6) * ewoud (5) * ovirtbot (5) * Jur (3) * jb_netapp (2) * YamaKasY (2) * teuf_ (1) * dustins (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Minutes :: Infra weekly :: 2013-01-28
by Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden 28 Jan '13

28 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-28-15.10.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-28-15.10.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-28-15.10.log.html ============== #ovirt Meeting ============== Meeting started by ewoud at 15:10:20 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-28-15.10.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2013-01-28 (ewoud, 15:10:37) * Agenda: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2013-01-28 (dneary, 15:11:24) * hosting (ewoud, 15:13:28) * ACTION: dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server (dneary, 15:15:07) * ACTION: dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 (dneary, 15:17:28) * no progress on new hosting due to missing credentials (ewoud, 15:21:18) * first jenkins install will be manual, puppetized later on (ewoud, 15:21:43) * ACTION: dneary ensure people receive logins (ewoud, 15:22:08) * jenkins (ewoud, 15:22:33) * current rhel vms (ec2) were upgraded to 6.3 (ewoud, 15:23:04) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/34 (eedri, 15:24:33) * python-nose1.1 was installed and linked on rhel vms (eedri, 15:25:36) * gerrit (ewoud, 15:36:50) * fosdem (ewoud, 15:37:58) * ACTION: ewoud propose a time to meet at fosdem (ewoud, 15:41:55) * trac review (ewoud, 15:42:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 (ewoud, 15:43:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/31 Licensing (rights) link disappears when graphic is not used (ewoud, 15:44:25) * Other business? (ewoud, 15:46:58) Meeting ended at 15:48:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server * dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 * dneary ensure people receive logins * ewoud propose a time to meet at fosdem Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dcaro * dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server * dneary * dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server * dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 * dneary ensure people receive logins * eedri * dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server * ewoud * dneary to ensure that ewoud, eedri and dcaro get admin access to Jenkins server * dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 * ewoud propose a time to meet at fosdem * Rydekull * dneary to check who can add Rydekull and ewoud as admins for linode1 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * ewoud (69) * dneary (37) * eedri (33) * Rydekull (15) * ovirtbot (4) * is (1) * dcaro|mtg (1) * fabiand (1) * dcaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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oVirt Weekly Meeting -- 2013-01-23
by Mike Burns 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-23-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-23-15.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-23-15.00.log.html ============================ #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Meeting ============================ Meeting started by mburns_ovirt_ws at 15:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-23-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (mburns_ovirt_ws, 15:01:05) * Release status (mburns, 15:04:10) * vdsm and engine rpms are posted to ovirt-beta repo (mburns, 15:04:23) * testing is ongoing with ovirt-node (mburns, 15:04:43) * hope to have ovirt-node packages and image uploaded and beta announcement sent today (mburns, 15:05:10) * workshops (dneary, 15:08:24) * Sunnyvale workshop on now. 90 registered, ~70 attendees for day 1 (dneary, 15:08:51) * Dates for Shanghai workshop in Intel's campus there have been pushed back (dneary, 15:09:29) * Shanghai workshop will now happen on May 8-9, 2013 (dneary, 15:09:49) * Call for participation and registration for that workshop will go online next week (dneary, 15:10:38) * oVirt Board meeting during the NetApp workshop is planned for tomorrow, Thursday 24 Jan. Remote attendance is possible - please contact dneary(a)redhat.com or lhawthor(a)redhat.com to attend remotely (dneary, 15:13:33) * Board meeting starts at 09:00 AM PST, 17:00 UTC (mburns, 15:16:38) * Infra update (quick) (mburns, 15:17:15) * <quaid> we've got *both* sets of servers & I'll be distributing access to the Infra maintainers later today so work can continue in my absence (mburns, 15:17:38) * Release Status (continued) (mburns, 15:18:02) * Q from aglitke -- will we have a 3.2 ovirt on a stick? (mburns, 15:18:33) * A - yes, it's already in use at the workshop right now (mburns, 15:18:48) * next step is to get it into a jenkins build to build it daily (mburns, 15:19:07) * question from linex about upgrades -- will it be a simple package update to go from 3.1 to 3.2? (mburns, 15:19:34) * answer -- no, 3.1 runs on F17 and 3.2 on F18, so there is an OS upgrade involved as well as running engine-upgrade (mburns, 15:20:17) * upgrade from 3.2 beta to 3.2 GA *should* be more smooth (mburns, 15:20:57) * Proposal -- since we don't have beta ready yet, slip test day from 24-Jan to 29-Jan and GA from 30-Jan to 06-Feb (mburns, 15:24:12) * question -- release note status (mburns, 15:25:16) * sgordon and cheryn tan are coordinating (mburns, 15:25:29) * maintainers need to be responsive is asked for info from them if we hope to have them available on time (mburns, 15:25:48) * should have a draft ready for the 29th (mburns, 15:26:13) * AGREED: release date to slip 1 week to 06-Feb and test day to 29-Jan (mburns, 15:27:40) * Other Topics (mburns, 15:29:40) Meeting ended at 15:32:24 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mburns (60) * dneary (20) * aglitke (19) * mburns_ovirt_ws (7) * sgordon (5) * linex (5) * ovirtbot (4) * Rydekull (2) * quaid (1) * dustins (1) * oschreib (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Minutes :: Infra weekly :: 2013-01-21
by Karsten 'quaid' Wade 21 Jan '13

21 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-21-15.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-21-15.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-21-15.01.log.html ==================== #ovirt: Infra weekly ==================== Meeting started by quaid at 15:01:25 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-21-15.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda & roll-call (quaid, 15:02:00) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-01-21 (quaid, 15:02:07) * Vacation coverage (quaid, 15:05:38) * Missing Infra info on who, what, decisions, etc. (quaid, 15:08:27) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Becoming_an_Infrastructure_team_member (quaid, 15:08:58) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_assignments (quaid, 15:09:03) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure#Decision_process (quaid, 15:09:08) * Hosting (quaid, 15:12:13) * eedri should have access to the AlterWay servers to turn one of them in to the about-to-be Jenkins master (quaid, 15:12:50) * those machines will be Puppetized after we get them installed, to save time (not have to wait for puppet/foreman) (quaid, 15:13:26) * ewoud also should have access & be coordinating with eedri (quaid, 15:13:41) * RackSpace hosts are going to come online probably while quaid is on vacation; if he sees the keys, he'll pass along access to eedri & ewoud for turning one of them in to a Jenkins slaves host (quaid, 15:15:01) * ACTION: dneary to follow-up about RHEL entitlements for RackSpace (quaid, 15:15:15) * quaid added 15 GB of space to the Linode instance to carry us over to migration, hopefully (quaid, 15:16:41) * no update on Infiniband hosting sponsorship, being worked on (quaid, 15:17:38) * Puppet (quaid, 15:20:17) * Puppet to be hosted on AlterWay second server (quaid, 15:20:32) * ewoud should have info to install VMs on that second server to work on Puppet, Foreman, smartproxy, etc. (quaid, 15:21:03) * we need to schedule out this migration a bit better, but puppet will arrive after the Jenkins migration (quaid, 15:21:19) * ACTION: quaid to get Jenkins master credentials to eedri & dcaro asap (quaid, 15:23:08) * Jenkins (quaid, 15:24:49) * Working on Jenkins master migration plan - eedri, dcaro (quaid, 15:25:03) * server for Jenkins slaves to arrive in a few weeks (quaid, 15:27:01) * Gerrit (quaid, 15:30:18) * Gerrit is steady, no plans underway to move it (yet), will need to plan that carefully (quaid, 15:30:44) * Any other business? (quaid, 15:32:10) * Trac ticket review (quaid, 15:34:33) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 (quaid, 15:34:49) Meeting ended at 15:42:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dneary to follow-up about RHEL entitlements for RackSpace * quaid to get Jenkins master credentials to eedri & dcaro asap Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dcaro * quaid to get Jenkins master credentials to eedri & dcaro asap * eedri * quaid to get Jenkins master credentials to eedri & dcaro asap * quaid * quaid to get Jenkins master credentials to eedri & dcaro asap * **UNASSIGNED** * dneary to follow-up about RHEL entitlements for RackSpace People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * quaid (85) * Rydekull (21) * backblue (16) * ewoud (6) * mburns_ovirt_ws (5) * eedri (3) * ovirtbot (2) * danken2 (1) * dcaro (1) -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41

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oVirt features survey - please participate!
by Dave Neary 17 Jan '13

17 Jan '13

Hi everyone, After the mammoth thread these past few days on what you would like to see next from oVirt, Itamar and I have put together a list of all of the features you requested and made a survey to help us understand a bit more which features are more important to you, and the way in which you use oVirt. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/oVirtFeatures It will take you between 1 and 3 minutes to participate in this survey, and help prioritise efforts for the next version or two of oVirt. If you know of people who are oVirt users, but who are not on this mailing list, please feel free to forward this link on to them! Also, let me remind you that you can see first hand what is coming in the upcoming oVirt 3.2 release and talk to the people behind oVirt during the oVirt Workshop in NetApp HQ, Sunnyvale, California next week. Registration is still open for another day or so, and we have about 10 places still available. Sign up now! http://www.ovirt.org/NetApp_Workshop_January_2013 Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes
by Mike Burns 16 Jan '13

16 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-16-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-16-15.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-16-15.00.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by mburns at 15:00:23 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-16-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (mburns, 15:00:29) * release status (mburns, 15:04:28) * we're supposed to be posting the beta versions of packages (mburns, 15:04:52) * (actually were supposed to do this yesterday) (mburns, 15:05:03) * engine builds running now, to be posted when complete (mburns, 15:06:30) * vdsm build is available in fedora updates testing, but not core fedora yet (mburns, 15:06:48) * vdsm packages downloaded from koji and loaded into beta area on ovirt.org (mburns, 15:07:10) * otopi and ovirt-host-deploy built and uploaded (mburns, 15:07:19) * ovirt-node and ovirt-node iso are coming shortly, but needed vdsm and ovirt-host-deploy uploaded first (mburns, 15:07:47) * build run, now in smoketesting prior to posting (mburns, 15:07:58) * mom from fedora is good (mburns, 15:10:26) * still waiting on cli/sdk (mburns, 15:11:35) * still waiting on log-collector image-uploader iso-uploader guest-agent (mburns, 15:12:06) * proposal: leave alpha packages in beta for missing packages and get updated packages in background (mburns, 15:20:55) * AGREED: will move into beta with alpha packages for guest-agent, log-collector, iso and image uploaders, sdk/cli (mburns, 15:22:39) * steps left to start beta: (mburns, 15:22:56) * 1. upload new ovirt-engine rpms (mburns, 15:23:09) * 2. finalize smoketesting, build, and post ovirt-node and ovirt-node-iso rpms (mburns, 15:23:35) * 3. send announcement (mburns, 15:23:45) * ACTION: oschreib_ to follow up with mpastern and kroberts for beta branching and packaging (mburns, 15:25:43) * ACTION: mburns to finish ovirt-node related beta tasks (mburns, 15:25:54) * ACTION: mburns to send out beta announcement (mburns, 15:26:01) * one other request for maintainers -- please keep the tracker bug updated with release blocking issues (mburns, 15:26:33) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881006 (mburns, 15:26:48) * Test Day scheduled for 24-Jan (Next Thursday) (mburns, 15:28:25) * workshops (mburns, 15:29:33) * no updates on Shanghai workshop, updates coming next week (mburns, 15:30:52) * registration for Sunnyvale (NetApp) is open until tomorrow (mburns, 15:31:23) * Board Meeting is arranged, good attendance expected (mburns, 15:33:06) * for remote participation at the board meeting, please contact dneary (mburns, 15:33:21) * not really a workshop, but somewhat related -- I'll be attending FUDCon this weekend and will propose both a talk on oVirt and will work with people who want to deploy oVirt (mburns, 15:34:50) * please feel free to say hi if you're also attending (mburns, 15:35:21) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/OVirt_Global_Workshops#oVirt_Workshop_at_Intel_Campus (lh, 15:40:02) * ACTION: lh to confirm with Intel we are "go" for Shanghai workshop on 20 - 21 March (quaid, 15:41:08) * Shanghai dates are confirmed for 20-21 March (mburns, 15:41:12) * getting reconfirmation from Intel that 20-21 March dates are locked (lh, 15:41:31) * Infrastructure report (mburns, 15:42:10) * AlterWay Servers are available (mburns, 15:42:20) * dneary has connection information (mburns, 15:42:27) * New hosts from RackSpace due in a few weeks (quaid, 15:46:15) * I will be on vacation and travelling in Europe starting 25 Jan through 08 Feb (with a work/FOSDEM break on 31 - 02), so we'll be discussing coverage on infra@ (quaid, 15:47:10) * Jenkins will be moving to Alter Way, migration plan forthcoming with details to discuss before finalized on arch@ (quaid, 15:47:40) * Other topics (mburns, 15:49:13) * due to travel and the oVirt Workshop, mburns likely won't be around for the weekly next week (mburns, 15:49:55) * mburns will try to get someone else to handle this meeting next week (mburns, 15:52:08) Meeting ended at 15:56:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * oschreib_ to follow up with mpastern and kroberts for beta branching and packaging * mburns to finish ovirt-node related beta tasks * mburns to send out beta announcement * lh to confirm with Intel we are "go" for Shanghai workshop on 20 - 21 March Action Items, by person ----------------------- * lh * lh to confirm with Intel we are "go" for Shanghai workshop on 20 - 21 March * mburns * mburns to finish ovirt-node related beta tasks * mburns to send out beta announcement * oschreib_ * oschreib_ to follow up with mpastern and kroberts for beta branching and packaging * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mburns (91) * aglitke (19) * dneary (17) * oschreib_ (12) * lh (9) * quaid (9) * ovirtbot (5) * goacid (1) * ofrenkel (1) * Rydekull (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Last chance to register!
by Dave Neary 14 Jan '13

14 Jan '13

Hi everyone, There are only two days left to register for the oVirt workshop next week, and we only have 15 places left for the workshop! If you've been holding on and waiting for the right momebnt, it has come! Head over to http://ovirtnetapp2013.eventbrite.com/# to sign up now. If you still need convincing, have a look at the great content we have lined up at http://www.ovirt.org/NetApp_Workshop_January_2013 Looking forward to seeing everyone next week in Sunnyvale! Regards, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13

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Minutes :: oVirt Infra weekly meeting :: 2013-01-14
by Karsten 'quaid' Wade 14 Jan '13

14 Jan '13

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-14-15.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-14-15.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-14-15.01.log.html =============================== #ovirt: oVirt Infra Team Weekly =============================== Meeting started by quaid at 15:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-01-14-15.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda & roll call (quaid, 15:01:30) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-01-14 (quaid, 15:01:45) * Hosting (quaid, 15:06:10) * I had a kickoff meeting last Friday with RackSpace for the new hosting there; eedri & dcaro were included (either in the meeting or the materials) (quaid, 15:06:53) * 10 to 15 business days from Friday 11 Jan for the new hosts to arrive (quaid, 15:07:11) * LINK: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 (quaid, 15:08:45) * ACTION: Need to follow up with Kevin from Alter Way for status (quaid, 15:09:13) * AlterWay servers are being installed and will be delivered on Wednesday (quaid, 15:11:52) * ACTION: quaid to work on final migration plan for list review (quaid, 15:17:38) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/Adding_a_new_system_administrator_to_a_host (quaid, 15:22:10) * Puppet (quaid, 15:24:25) * dcaro has sent initial Puppet manifests to the list (quaid, 15:24:41) * LINK: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-January/001799.html (quaid, 15:25:08) * LINK: https://github.com/david-caro/puppet-jenkins (quaid, 15:25:15) * ACTION: Infra team especially ewoud need to review initial Jenkins Puppet manifests (quaid, 15:28:23) * AGREED: We'll install Jenkins manually, then have puppet master enforce the puppet classes and make sure it stays aligned to the configuration (quaid, 15:32:15) * LINK: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/best_practices.html (quaid, 15:38:21) * LINK: https://github.com/david-caro/puppet-jenkins/tree/master/files (dneary, 15:38:33) * ACTION: dcaro to request Puppet module on Gerrit (quaid, 15:44:46) * AGREED: Puppet repo on Gerrit generally a good idea, will finish detail discussions on list (quaid, 15:45:32) * Jenkins (quaid, 15:45:48) * ACTION: All reply to the on-list request to grant admin access to dcaro (quaid, 15:46:07) * Jenkins migration plan embedded in the overall new hosting design (quaid, 15:46:51) * LINK: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 (quaid, 15:46:53) * recent job failure on Jenkins are likely due to infrastructure - slow VM response and out of space issues (quaid, 15:48:49) * Gerrit (quaid, 15:50:03) * Gerrit is generally stable currently (quaid, 15:50:23) * AGREED: Still planning to move Gerrit to new hosting after things settle down from the Jenkins and Mailman moves (quaid, 15:51:15) * IDEA: Should do the Gerrit install using the new Foreman/Puppet system (quaid, 15:51:40) * ACTION: quaid to get an SSL Cert for one or more ovirt.org domains (quaid, 15:54:11) * OpenShift - space & admin redundancy (quaid, 15:55:34) * we ran out of space on our OpenShift gear over the weekend, which causes an unhelpful error that dneary fixed by cleaning up things (quaid, 15:56:00) * ACTION: quaid is asking #openshift for a much bigger quota (quaid, 15:56:12) * Bigger quota is now here, thanks dneary (quaid, 15:58:20) * 'rhc log-clean' helps keep things clean (quaid, 15:58:31) * IDEA: can we automate openshift cleanup using cron? (quaid, 15:58:42) * ACTION: quaid needs to figure out how to add other admins to OpenShift, then add folks from Infra (quaid, 15:59:13) * IDEA: can we use OpenShift log rotation automagic? (quaid, 15:59:43) * IDEA: could use cron cartridge for our own log rotation (quaid, 16:01:42) Meeting ended at 16:08:53 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Need to follow up with Kevin from Alter Way for status * quaid to work on final migration plan for list review * Infra team especially ewoud need to review initial Jenkins Puppet manifests * dcaro to request Puppet module on Gerrit * All reply to the on-list request to grant admin access to dcaro * quaid to get an SSL Cert for one or more ovirt.org domains * quaid is asking #openshift for a much bigger quota * quaid needs to figure out how to add other admins to OpenShift, then add folks from Infra Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dcaro * dcaro to request Puppet module on Gerrit * All reply to the on-list request to grant admin access to dcaro * ewoud * Infra team especially ewoud need to review initial Jenkins Puppet manifests * quaid * quaid to work on final migration plan for list review * quaid to get an SSL Cert for one or more ovirt.org domains * quaid is asking #openshift for a much bigger quota * quaid needs to figure out how to add other admins to OpenShift, then add folks from Infra * **UNASSIGNED** * Need to follow up with Kevin from Alter Way for status People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * quaid (127) * eedri (25) * dneary (22) * dcaro (10) * goacid (6) * ale (4) * ovirtbot (3) * vfeenstr (2) * ewoud (2) * itamar (2) * myoung34 (2) * mburns (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41

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Minutes :: Weekly infra meeting :: 2013-01-09
by Karsten 'quaid' Wade 10 Jan '13

10 Jan '13

The bot wasn't yet working on Monday morning, instead I'm including the entire logs below. I've also extracted the key points above here where the bot-style commands were used for that purpose. Topic: * New hosting plan draft: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 ** INFO *** Pulled together from previous and existing discussions ** ACTIONS *** Team needs to start writing up initial Puppet manifests * Trac review: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 ** INFO *** No time to review tickets in meeting ** ACTIONS *** Everyone update your own tickets ## begin IRC log 07:00 < quaid> #startmeeting 07:01 < quaid> ruh roh 07:01 -!- Irssi: #ovirt: Total of 156 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 154 normal] 07:01 * quaid goes to look at bot one moment 07:01 -!- ofri_ [~ofri(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:01 -!- ykaul [~ykaul(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:01 -!- mskrivanek|away is now known as mskrivanek 07:02 < quaid> ok, bot is down 07:02 < quaid> I was having troubles before the holidays, still not fixed I reckon 07:02 -!- dcaro [~dcaro(a)nat-pool-brq-u.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:02 < quaid> so I'll just keep a copy of the log here and we'll just use meetbot convention to make searching the logs easier :/ 07:03 < quaid> #meetingname Infra weekly meeting 07:03 < quaid> #topic roll call & coffee time 07:03 -!- eedri_ [~eedri(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:04 -!- gchaplik [~gchaplik(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:04 * quaid is here & pulling up agenda 07:04 * dneary is here 07:04 < dneary> Any news on the git issue earlier? /me asks quaid to add it to agenda 07:05 < quaid> no news that I've seen, we can add it 07:07 < quaid> ok, I've read the news & am not having a problem with gerrit access from here either 07:07 -!- mdday [~mdday(a)cpe-076-182-073-192.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ovirt 07:07 < quaid> Agenda: 07:08 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:08 -!- danken [~danken(a)bzq-109-67-31-252.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ovirt 07:08 < quaid> Review & discuss & improve upon draft: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 07:08 < quaid> Trac ticket review: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/report/1 07:08 < quaid> Is gerrit.ovirt.org OK? Status 07:08 < quaid> All other business 07:08 < quaid> anything else? 07:09 -!- ykaul [~ykaul(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09 -!- ircuser-1 [~ircuser-1(a)35.222-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #ovirt 07:09 -!- jclift [~jclift(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:10 < jclift> Is anyone around who can guide me in how to successfully submit patches with gerrit? 07:11 < jclift> I've been following the instructions on the "Working with oVirt Gerrit" wiki page, but it's not working properly. Only the first commit shows up in the web interface. 07:12 -!- abaron [~abaron(a)87.68.20.33.cable.012.net.il] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12 < quaid> ok, I'm giving up on the bot for the moment, sorry :) 07:12 * quaid getting coffee, too 07:12 < ewoud> jclift: how did you push? git push or git-review? 07:12 < quaid> #topic New hosting plan draft: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 07:13 < quaid> #info Pulled together from previous and existing discussions 07:13 < jclift> ewoud: git push gerrit.ovirt.org:ovirt-engine HEAD:refs/for/master 07:14 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:15 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:15 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15 < quaid> dcaro: re: network infrastructure, we'll have to ask Kevin on list for more details 07:16 < quaid> I think we did talk about a private VLAN 07:16 < quaid> and the need to control our own DHCP 07:16 < ewoud> jclift: I haven't done so recently, but I think that should work; are you sure HEAD is multiple commits? 07:16 -!- abaron [~abaron(a)87.68.20.33.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ovirt 07:16 < jclift> ewoud: checking 07:16 -!- lagarcia__ [~lagarcia(a)201.82.143.114] has joined #ovirt 07:16 -!- mpastern [~mpastern(a)94.159.206.219] has joined #ovirt 07:17 < ewoud> quaid: I'm not sure I like to separate the DB from the app unless it's really needed 07:17 -!- mkolesni_ [~mkolesni(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 07:18 < ewoud> only listening on localhost makes security a bit easier imho 07:18 < dcaro> quaid: ok, we want to set up foreman with provisioning right? 07:18 < ewoud> if possible 07:18 < quaid> ewoud: fair point about DBs, as long as it's not a resource problem on the host, right? 07:18 < quaid> dcaro: aiui, yes 07:19 -!- ykaul [~ykaul(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:19 < quaid> #action Team needs to start writing up initial Puppet manifests 07:19 < ewoud> quaid: that as wel; splitting it into two different VMs on the same host gives little benefit imho 07:19 < quaid> ewoud: heh, true 07:19 -!- eedri_ [~eedri(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:19 < quaid> eedri_: we're actually meeting, the bot is down 07:19 < ewoud> only thing that might be easier is backups; one central DB may be easier to back up 07:20 < quaid> eedri_: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 07:20 < dcaro> I've started writting the jenkins master/slave manifests 07:20 -!- mkolesni [~mkolesni(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:20 < eedri_> quaid, ok 07:20 < ewoud> dcaro: have you checked out puppet-jenkins? 07:20 -!- msalem [~msalem(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20 < ewoud> dcaro: https://github.com/rtyler/puppet-jenkins 07:20 < jclift> ewoud: http://fpaste.org/z308/ 07:20 < jclift> ewoud: Looks like multiple commits to me? 07:20 < dcaro> ewoud, yep, I'm using it as a base 07:21 < ewoud> jclift: that's log origin/master..HEAD or something similar I assume 07:21 < quaid> ewoud: I was thinking about that, figured if we're doing e.g. sql dumps, those are automatable - the challenge would be perhaps more in mirroring databases if we had many of them 07:21 < jclift> ewoud: Yep 07:21 < quaid> I'm forgetting, did we setup the git repo for Infra? 07:21 < ewoud> dcaro: can I see the work somewhere? 07:22 < quaid> how does it come in to play here? does foreman/puppet want all our configs in packages, etc.? 07:22 -!- emesika [~emesika(a)46.120.148.109] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 07:22 < ewoud> quaid: no, you can install files either using straight content or through a template 07:22 -!- emesika [~emesika(a)46.120.148.109] has joined #ovirt 07:22 -!- lagarcia_ [~lagarcia(a)201.82.143.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:23 < dcaro> ewoud: I'll push it to my fork as soon as I have something worth looking into 07:23 < ewoud> jclift: which commit? I'd assume the first because the last will need the others 07:23 < ewoud> dcaro: cool 07:23 -!- movciari [~movciari(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:24 < jclift> ewoud: All of mine in that list. 7 in total. 07:24 * jclift notices there's a GitHub mirror for all of the oVirt code 07:24 < ewoud> jclift: yes, but can you paste the output of git push? it should mention the review requests 07:24 < jclift> ewoud: Can I just to a GitHub pull request instead of this Gerrit crap? 07:24 < jclift> :) 07:25 < ewoud> jclift: no, they're meant as a read-only method 07:25 < jclift> Damn. This is _way_ more difficult than it needs to be. :( 07:25 -!- doron [~doron(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26 < quaid> jclift: are you having the problem with gerrit that's being reported on infra@? 07:26 -!- doron [~doron(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:26 < quaid> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-January/001785.html 07:26 * jclift looks 07:26 < quaid> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/infra/2013-January/001771.html 07:26 < jclift> ewoud: http://fpaste.org/gTZY/ 07:26 < jclift> quaid: No. 07:27 < quaid> jclift: ok, didn't sound like it but ... 07:27 < jclift> jclift: I think I'm just having conceptual issues with Gerrit. :) 07:27 < ewoud> jclift: that looks very weird; maybe HEAD isn't the branch you want to push? 07:27 < jclift> After this patch, I'm never touching it again. 07:27 < jclift> ewoud: master HEAD is where I have the patches. 07:28 < jclift> I first tried with a branch "typo_fixes_v2", but wasn't sure how to do stuff with branches with Gerrit. 07:28 < jclift> So, I just did it in master instead. 07:28 < ewoud> jclift: if you do branches I think git-review makes your life a lot easier 07:28 -!- eedri_ [~eedri(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:29 < jclift> I have no intention of ever doing anything with the oVirt source ever again. 07:29 < jclift> (unless it moves to GitHub or something sane) 07:29 < jclift> So, not really going to invest time into learning new tools just for this purpose. 07:29 < jclift> Hmmm. 07:29 -!- lvernia [~lvernia(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:30 < jclift> I think I'll just "abandon" this change set, and someone else who knows Gerrit can fix the typos in things when they're bothered. :) 07:30 < ewoud> jclift: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/5541/ is the only commit that shows up? 07:30 < jclift> ewoud: Yep 07:31 < ewoud> jclift: you could try to push to refs/for/master/typo_fixes to make a branch 07:32 < ewoud> jclift: btw, I think I see what's the problem 07:32 < ewoud> all the commits have the exact same change id 07:32 < jclift> Yep 07:32 < ewoud> which means gerrit things it's the same change 07:32 < jclift> That ties them together doesn't it? 07:32 < quaid> btw, who is writing the master/slave hostgroups in to the Etherpad? 07:32 < jclift> They're part of the same change. 07:32 < ewoud> jclift: no, a change ID means it's a unique trackable commit 07:33 < jclift> Hmmm. I don't have an "Abandon Change" button. 07:33 < jclift> How do I abandon/nuke/etc this change? 07:33 < ewoud> jclift: just give the other commits a new ID, push and it should work 07:33 < ewoud> jclift: I'll assume the first commit is still valid 07:34 < ewoud> jclift: change IDs are a means of tracking multiple versions of a single patch 07:34 < jclift> How do I tie multiple patches into one related "change" ? 07:34 < jclift> Or is that not possible? 07:34 < ewoud> jclift: I think you push to refs/for/master/<my_branch_name> 07:34 < jclift> k 07:35 < quaid> ah, it's eedri 07:35 -!- jbrooks [~jason(a)c-50-148-148-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ovirt 07:35 -!- eedri [~eedri(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:37 < quaid> ewoud: regarding the smart proxy, is that something we'd want bundled on the same server with Puppet, or would that be a stand-alone host, too? 07:38 < dneary> quaid, What agenda item are we on? I'm a little lost 07:38 < ewoud> quaid: We need to run puppet on the smartproxy because it managed /etc/puppet/autosign.conf for example 07:38 < dneary> Ah - hosting plan 07:38 < dneary> Never mind me 07:39 < quaid> yep, and on the Etherpad 07:39 < quaid> http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 07:39 < quaid> ewoud: ah, ok 07:39 -!- shireesh [~shireesh(a)nat-pool-sin2-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:39 < ewoud> also, we need to install puppet from the puppetlabs repo because the server needs to be >= clients 07:40 < ewoud> and afaik F17 is puppet 2.7 where EPEL6 is 2.6 07:40 < eedri> ewoud, i think we have puppet master on rhel and it managed fedora clients 07:41 < ewoud> eedri: I have no fedora clients, but pretty sure I heard something about that 07:41 -!- kamdard [~kamdard(a)pool-96-226-22-78.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ovirt 07:41 < ewoud> eedri: we can start with EPEL6 version and upgrade if it doesn't work 07:41 -!- ofri_ [~ofri(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41 < eedri> ewoud, sure 07:41 -!- oliel [~oliel(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41 < ewoud> eedri: http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 btw 07:41 < dcaro> Puppet is sensitive to the versions of the master/client, we should use the same on clinet and master 07:43 -!- achub [~achub(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:44 -!- ofri_ [~ofri(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:44 < quaid> hmm, well I reckon if it works it will work fine, and if it doesn't, it will be clear it's not working? (Having EPEL's Puppet run Fedora slaves) 07:44 < ewoud> jclift: any luck changing the IDs? 07:45 < eedri> ewoud, are you chatting on the pad? cause i don't see it 07:45 < eedri> ewoud, or just reviewing the items 07:45 < ewoud> eedri: we're reviewing the items 07:45 -!- gchaplik [~gchaplik(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:45 < jclift> ewoud: I'm just about to try this: 07:45 < jclift> git push gerrit.ovirt.org:ovirt-engine typo_fixes_v3:refs/for/master/typo_fixes_v3 07:45 < jclift> Does that sound right? 07:46 < ewoud> jclift: I think it does 07:46 < jclift> The new commits, with changed id's, are in a new "typo_fixes_v3" branch. 07:46 < jclift> k, lets see what happens. 07:46 < quaid> we're chatting here because I'll paste the logs to the mailing lists for archiving when we're done 07:46 -!- ljk [~ljk(a)burl-mse-71-255-129-12.static.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #ovirt 07:47 < ewoud> jclift: looks like it pushed multiple commits now 07:47 < eedri> quaid, btw, any update on gerrit issue? 07:47 < eedri> quaid, seems issue pressit from tlv site 07:47 < ewoud> eedri: does HTTP work normal? traceroue? 07:48 < quaid> eedri: are all the folks affected so far in the same office? 07:49 < eedri> ewoud, http from browsers works 07:49 < eedri> ewoud, yea, seems to all from tlv site 07:49 -!- sgrunewald [~soeren.gr(a)p5B3C048D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:49 < eedri> ewoud, but it works for some 07:49 < ewoud> eedri: weird that http from browsers would work, but git over http doesn't 07:49 < ewoud> eedri: to me it feels like you should contact your network admin 07:50 < eedri> ewoud, ssh works.. but http/git doesn't 07:50 < eedri> ewoud, so i'm not sure it's a network issue 07:51 < jclift> ewoud: Is that good or bad? It's now 7 separate changes. 07:51 < jclift> Should I just leave it alone now, or just abandon it something. 07:51 < jclift> I'm completely over putting any more effort into this. :) 07:52 < ewoud> jclift: yes, every commit becomes a change and I think you're fine now and just wait for a review 07:52 < jclift> ewoud: k, thanks. 07:52 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ovirt 07:52 -!- jlibosva [~jlibosva(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:52 < jclift> I really hope you guys move to GitHub or some "better than Gerrit" system. :) 07:53 < ewoud> jclift: I'm not sure how easy GH is to manage multiple branches or from a release point of view 07:54 < ewoud> quaid: eedri dcaro I tried to make a timeline at the end of the document, got anything to add? 07:54 < jclift> Every other project on the planet seems to manage it. ;) 07:54 * quaid looks 07:55 < dcaro> should we install ovirt to handle the vms? 07:56 < ewoud> dcaro: we've talked about it a bit, but never reached a conclusion 07:56 < eedri> ewoud, don't we have foreman server already? 07:56 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56 < ewoud> eedri: I set up a PoC on a VM of mine, but I think we'd prefer to run it all on the new alterway machines 07:56 < quaid> eedri: so ... the nodes that are masters in the Puppet/Foreman arrangement are *not* provisioned using themselves? 07:56 < eedri> ewoud, sure 07:56 < quaid> i.e., puppet, foreman, smartproxy 07:56 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 07:57 < eedri> quaid, its the chicken and egg 07:57 -!- chouchins [~chouchins(a)IP-214-60.wustl.edu] has joined #ovirt 07:57 < eedri> quaid, but ewoud and david can explain better than i probably 07:57 < quaid> I've got a phone call in a few minutes, I think ... but I'm definitely still working on the Etherpad & can keep in this meeting 07:57 < eedri> quaid, what's the best approaach 07:57 * quaid will work on the bot later today 07:57 < eedri> i think installing foreman + puppet master from stable rpms will be best 07:58 -!- sgrunewald [~soeren.gr(a)p5B3C028F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ovirt 07:58 < quaid> +1 07:58 < dcaro> +1 07:58 < eedri> then using existing install to manage and provision other servers 07:58 < ewoud> eedri: foreman 1.1 is about to be released, but maybe ohadlevy can tell us more 07:58 < quaid> I want to use-or-fix what's in EPEL, if we can 07:58 < dneary> Stepping away... quaid please ping me if you need my input on anything - I think I already updated infra tickets related to me 07:58 < quaid> dneary: thanks 07:58 < eedri> quaid, when can we get root access to alterway1? 07:59 < quaid> yeah, if anyone wants to review their own Trac tickets and update them, we can skip that part of this meeting 07:59 < quaid> eedri: Kevin said he's installing base OS today 07:59 < eedri> quaid, ok. 07:59 < eedri> quaid, assuming we don't have foreman server yet, we'll probably need to install jenkins master manually for no 07:59 < eedri> w 07:59 -!- tjelinek [~tjelinek(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:59 < quaid> ok 08:00 < ewoud> dcaro: I think running ovirt can be good with eating your own dogfood, but not sure how much overhead it is when we only have one machine running VMs 08:00 < quaid> I think it's OK to push ahead in parallel as long as we are including the manual installs in Foreman later 08:01 < eedri> quaid, we can later on add the relevant hostgroups to manage already installed servers 08:01 < quaid> great 08:01 < quaid> *whew* 08:02 < dcaro> ewoud: we have at least two right? alterway02 and rackspace01? That's what's on the pad 08:03 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:03 < ewoud> dcaro: yes, but can we manage those two over a WAN link? 08:03 < ale_l> out of curiosity clikced that link : http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 - is it supposed to be public ? 08:03 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:03 < ewoud> ale_l: yes, nothing really secret I think 08:03 < ale_l> ah ok :) 08:04 -!- mkrcmari [~mkrcmari(a)nat-pool-brq-u.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:04 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06 < quaid> ale_l: thanks for checking, we only keep actual passwords secret, otherwise we're radically transparent infrastructure :) 08:07 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [] 08:08 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:09 -!- ljk [~ljk(a)burl-mse-71-255-129-12.static.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 -!- masayag [~masayag(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ovirt 08:10 -!- mkrcmari [~mkrcmari(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:10 -!- masayag [~masayag(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:11 -!- alourie [~alourie(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12 -!- mkletzan [~mkletzan(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: BRB] 08:12 -!- alonbl_ [~alonbl(a)0001aebf.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13 < quaid> ewoud: dcaro I've been pondering the usage of oVirt itself, and I think perhaps we'll find it worthwhile, but I think we're OK proceeding without oVirt as a layer & adding it layer 08:13 -!- ohadlevy [~ohadlevy(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:14 -!- mskrivanek is now known as mskrivanek|away 08:15 < dcaro> ewoud, mmm, not sure how much bandwith should it take but I think it should not be too much right? 08:16 -!- tjikkun_work [~tjikkun@2a00:d10:2:1:a6ba:dbff:fef3:f431] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:16 -!- mpastern [~mpastern(a)94.159.206.219] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:17 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:18 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:18 < dcaro> quaid, I think that the benefits of having ovirt will start to become relaly noticeable with the migration, as we are starting to have more vms (also I think that using our own software should be a must xd) 08:19 < quaid> I'm +1 with doing it, for sure 08:19 -!- mkolesni [~mkolesni(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:19 < quaid> if we can do it as part of the migration, even better 08:27 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 08:27 -!- danken [~danken(a)bzq-109-67-31-252.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:27 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ovirt 08:28 -!- mestery [~mestery(a)128-107-239-233.cisco.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:28 -!- ade [~abradshaw(a)109.58.116.227.bredband.tre.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:28 < ewoud> quaid: I think it mostly starts to make sense if we add more than one physical machine 08:28 -!- crobinso [~crobinso(a)cpe-67-248-219-87.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ovirt 08:29 < ewoud> btw, what's the reason we need to use alterway02 as a dedicated machine? 08:29 -!- lhornyak [~lhornyak(a)nat-pool-brq-u.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:29 -!- rvaknin [~rvaknin(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:31 -!- aglitke [~aglitke(a)68-115-116-10.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32 < quaid> ewoud: for Jenkins? 08:32 < quaid> aiui, we want Jenkins on it's own host, but why did I get that? 08:32 < quaid> * Read we don't want to have slaves on the same host 08:32 -!- anande [~anande(a)nat-pool-pnq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:33 < ewoud> quaid: yes, I think eedri said something like that but I'm wondering if we get sufficient performance from a VM 08:33 < ewoud> if a VM is sufficient we could go for ovirt 08:33 < quaid> I guess the need for nested qemu v. bare metal (iirc) is more on the slave side? 08:34 < ewoud> yes 08:34 < quaid> ah 08:34 -!- djasa [~djasa(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Šmitec] 08:34 -!- shireesh [~shireesh(a)nat-pool-sin2-t.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:34 < ewoud> in the ideal situation the master is only a master and doesn't run jobs afaik 08:35 < quaid> ewoud: btw & OT, I'm almost definitely coming to Brussels on Friday night & spending most of Saturday at FOSDEM 08:35 < quaid> ok, no problems, master doesn't run jobs, but yeah, if it can be a VM we can use that host more efficiently 08:35 < ewoud> quaid: cool 08:35 < eedri> quaid, ewoud i've also tried to think if jenkins really needs it's own single bare metal server 08:35 < ewoud> quaid: I'm not sure what jenkins does under higher load of many jobs 08:36 < eedri> quaid, ewoud but i can't know for sure if running it on a vm will provide enough performance 08:36 < ewoud> quaid: I think foreman devs are planning something on saturday evening, like dinner 08:36 < quaid> RobertM: did you have some insight about Jenkins on its own bare metal v. VM? 08:36 < eedri> quaid, perhaps the bad experience we had from using an amazon vm affects the decision 08:37 < quaid> ewoud: cool, I'm heading back to Paris sometime on Saturday night, but it could be a late train ride 08:37 < eedri> quaid, ewoud i can say we're using vms to run foreman,puppet,gerrit 08:38 -!- ppinatti [~paulo(a)187.74.69.163] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:38 < ewoud> we run our jenkins master at $employer virtual, but we have very little jobs 08:38 -!- ppinatti [~paulo(a)187.74.69.163] has joined #ovirt 08:38 < eedri> ewoud, we have lots of jobs.. 08:38 -!- alkaplan [~alkaplan(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:38 <@RobertM> quaid, I can tell that the master uses a lot of IO so what every you go with needs to strong IO. 08:39 < ewoud> eedri: that's what makes my experience harder to extrapolate 08:39 -!- Udayendu [~ukar(a)nat-pool-pnq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:39 < ewoud> RobertM: was the master running jobs as well? 08:39 < quaid> RobertM: I think we have that included, though I haven't seen the actual specs from AlterWay, we included fast IO in the initial requests 08:41 <@RobertM> I was running jobs at first but as the number of slaves went up the number of jobs I could run on the master went down. 08:42 -!- ovedo [~oourfali(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:43 -!- alourie [~alourie(a)80.250.158.201] has joined #ovirt 08:43 -!- shireesh [~shireesh(a)nat-pool-blr-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:43 <@RobertM> and that was with a sata drive 08:45 -!- chouchins [~chouchins(a)IP-214-60.wustl.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45 <@RobertM> Most VM's dont have enough IO to handle the load on the master 08:45 -!- lhornyak [~lhornyak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:46 < quaid> so I'm unsure now, was the problem that you were also running jobs on the master? or is it that ultimately Jenkins master will collapse on a VM and needs bare metal with fast IO? 08:46 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:47 -!- mbetak [~mbetak(a)nat-pool-brq-t.redhat.com] has joined #ovirt 08:47 < eedri> RobertM, but if we assign an external io to the master, fast enough.. it might be enough. 08:48 <@RobertM> quaid, Ever job requires you to copy to the slave then copy back from the slave that is a lot of IO the more jobs you run the higher that IO gets. Please that becomes a bottle neck for the entire process. So do skimp on the master 08:48 <@RobertM> please=plus 08:49 <@RobertM> do=dont 08:49 < quaid> heh, that wsa a useful typo fix, thanks 08:49 <@RobertM> Also my keyboard is failing so it is really effecting my ability to type. 08:50 < quaid> I'd say, we could probably start with Jenkins owning that host, and watch the usage over time - if it ends up having spare CPU & RAM, we could consider changing and watching 08:50 -!- alonl [~alon(a)nat-pool-tlv-u1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:50 < eedri> quaid, sounds good 08:50 < eedri> quaid, if we'll see we're short on bare metal hosts 08:50 < eedri> quaid, it will be easy enough to install a new jenkins vm on existing system 08:53 -!- masayag [~masayag(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:54 -!- |AbsyntH| [~never(a)host250-66-static.36-85-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: I'm an apatheist. The question is no longer interesting, and the answer no longer matters] 08:56 -!- ofri_ [~ofri(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:56 < quaid> +1 08:56 <@RobertM> CPU and Ram requirements are pretty minor. My system has 16G or ram and 8 core and it was way overkill. I found the master only used around 6G or ram and the CPU were never busy. Now IO on the sata drive got nuts. 08:56 -!- ykaplan [~ykaplan(a)nat-pool-tlv-t1.redhat.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59 * eedri has to go 08:59 < eedri> i'll update the pad with more topics if i'll think on something ## end IRC log -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41

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Update on dates for oVirt 3.2 Release
by Mike Burns 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

At today's oVirt meeting, we reviewed the dates for the oVirt 3.2 Release. The updated dates are: Devel Freeze and Branching: 2013-01-14 Beta Posted: 2013-01-15 Test Day: 2013-01-24 Target GA: 2013-01-30 The are several reasons for the slip. It is partially due to the slip in the Fedora 18 Release schedule. The move to Fedora 18 has also caused some issues for some of the sub-projects, most notably ovirt-node. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns Thanks Mike Burns on behalf of The oVirt Team

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oVirt Weekly Meeting Minutes -- 2013-01-09
by Mike Burns 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

#ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync Meeting started by mburns at 15:01:57 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary agenda and roll call (mburns, 15:02:02) workshops (mburns, 15:04:33) NetApp workshop (Jan 22-24) is mostly ready to go. USB keys ordered, facilities arranged, schedule online (dneary, 15:06:54) NetApp workshop (Jan 22-24) is mostly ready to go. USB keys ordered, facilities arranged, schedule online (mburns, 15:07:28) NetApp workshop (Jan 22-24) is mostly ready to go. USB keys ordered, facilities arranged, schedule online (dneary, 15:07:34) Current activities are mostly around organising of board meeting, and co-ordinating burn-in of USB keys with latest pre-release version of 3.2 (dneary, 15:07:36) Accommodation block has expired - if you need a room for the dates of the conference, you should call up ASAP to ensure availability, and we cannot guarantee the rate any more (dneary, 15:08:22) Registration status: 63 registered, capacity is 100. ~20-25 Red Hatters, ~40 non-Red Hatters (dneary, 15:09:08) Registration will close on January 15th, due to our requirement to finalise numbers for catering, and get visitor badges made (dneary, 15:09:57) Currently promoting the workshop to the Bay Area clouderati, and getting some decent traction this week (some Citrix/CloudStack sign-ups, one Inktank sign-up, and promising feedback from Cloudfoundry) (dneary, 15:11:50) release status (mburns, 15:19:10) not making 2013-01-09 release date (mburns, 15:21:02) status update for ovirt-node (mburns, 15:21:11) found some late breaking blocking issues with ovirt-node and move to F18 (mburns, 15:21:37) some around selinux changes, some around various other component changes (mburns, 15:21:53) patches are in review now that should fix them (mburns, 15:23:03) beta branch for all packages due by Monday January 14 (mburns, 15:38:12) beta posted by Tuesday Jan 15? (mburns, 15:38:26) test day 2013-01-24 (mburns, 15:40:56) AGREED: release date target set for 30-Jan (mburns, 15:50:41) ACTION: mburns to update release page and send communication to lists (mburns, 15:52:24) infra report (mburns, 15:55:40) working on details of new hosting design (quaid, 15:56:17) http://etherpad.ovirt.org/p/new_hosting_design_Jan_2013 (quaid, 15:57:47) we'll talk on arch@ about service cutover dates & such (quaid, 15:58:31) workshop - China (mburns, 16:00:27) dates are set for workshop in China, but very early in the process (20-21 March) (mburns, 16:03:29) need call for content, discussion on whether workshops are the right way to go about this (mburns, 16:03:48) workshop will be in Shanghai (mburns, 16:04:50) other topics (mburns, 16:06:13) Meeting ended at 16:09:41 UTC (full logs). Action items mburns to update release page and send communication to lists Action items, by person mburns mburns to update release page and send communication to lists People present (lines said) mburns (93) dneary (45) mgoldboi (33) aglitke1 (15) sgordon (14) lh (11) quaid (10) ovirtbot (6) karimb (5) itamar (5) oschreib_ (4) jb_netapp (3) itamar1 (2) dustins (1) garrett (1) Generated by MeetBot 0.1.4.

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Action Needed: Upcoming Deadlines for oVirt Workshop at NetApp
by Leslie Hawthorn 07 Jan '13

07 Jan '13

Hello everyone, ***If you will not be attending the oVirt workshop taking place at NetApp HQ on 22-24 January 2013 [0], you can stop reading now.*** Hotel Room Block Expiring: If you require a hotel room as part of your visit for the workshop, please book your room ASAP [1], as we will be releasing extra rooms in our block at close of business tomorrow, 8 January. If you are unable to book a room by close of business tomorrow, all unbooked rooms in our block will be released. You may still request our room block rate but you will no longer be guaranteed lodging at the Country Inn and Suites as of Wednesday, 9 January. Registration Deadline: In order to have an accurate headcount for catering, please ensure you have completed your registration for the event no later than close of business on Tuesday, 15 January. [1] Please take a moment to register and to remind any friends and colleagues who would be interested in attending of our registration deadline. If you or a colleague are unable to register by Tuesday, 15 January, but would still like to attend please contact Dave Neary off-list. [2] Dave will do his best to ensure that we are able to process late registrations, though we unfortunately cannot make any guarantees. Thank you once again to Patrick Rogers, Denise Ridolfo, Jon Benedict, Talia Reyes-Ortiz and the rest of the fine folks at NetApp for hosting this workshop and all their hard work to bring the community together in Sunnyvale. If you have any questions, please let me know. I look forward to (re)meeting you at the oVirt workshop at NetApp. [0] - http://www.ovirt.org/NetApp_Workshop_January_2013 [1] - http://ovirtnetapp2013.eventbrite.com/# [2] - dneary at redhat dot com Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat identi.ca/lh twitter.com/lhawthorn]

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Use of DCO
by Anthony Liguori 03 Jan '13

03 Jan '13

Hi, I've noticed that the various oVirt projects are not using the DCO process correctly. While contributors are adding Signed-off-by's (Good), there's no Signed-off-by being added by maintainers (Bad). http://lwn.net/Articles/139918/ It may seem like a minor thing, but SOB is meant to provide a chain of custody and it's less effective if the certification isn't also done by maintainers. For VDSM, I see examples like: commit 53c6801658a8c5e05ceb518ffd9ebfefa805fda9 Author: Antoni S. Puimedon <asegurap(a)redhat.com> Date: Tue Dec 18 22:33:39 2012 +0100 Fix blockSD pep8. Change-Id: I2ed4ce2a5748a911f76da02f762e5bda9352b905 Signed-off-by: Antoni S. Puimedon <asegurap(a)redhat.com> Reviewed-on: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/10213 Reviewed-by: Dan Kenigsberg <danken(a)redhat.com> The last 'Reviewed-by' ought to be a 'Signed-off-by'. OTOH, ovirt-engine lacks any Reviewed-by tags. For example: Author: Sharad Mishra <snmishra(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed Dec 26 11:10:32 2012 -0800 core: removed obsolete classes vm_template_image_map_id and vm_template_imag These clasees are not used anymore. Change-Id: I82f0861644f155f7b6c27ba5acb3a069b6f1a8f6 Signed-off-by: Sharad Mishra <snmishra(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com> I'm not sure if this is a limitation in gerrit. I know the question has come up regarding what OpenStack does. OpenStack doesn't use DCO. They have an explicit CLA that everyone must sign before participating[1]. DCO eliminates the need for such an agreement (when used properly). [1] http://wiki.openstack.org/CLA Regards, Anthony Liguori

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