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Meeting minutes :: oVirt Infra weekly sync :: 2012-09-04
by Karsten 'quaid' Wade 04 Sep '12

04 Sep '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-09-04-14.02.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-09-04-14.02.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-09-04-14.02.log.html =============================== #ovirt: oVirt Infra weekly sync =============================== Meeting started by quaid at 14:02:41 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-09-04-14.02.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call & agenda chat (quaid, 14:02:59) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-08-28-14.00.html (quaid, 14:06:38) * Hosting ... (quaid, 14:11:17) * IDEA: get a BIG server to do Jenkins, and a not-so-BIG server to host VMs so we can split services to different hosts (e.g. wiki, lists, etc.) (quaid, 14:13:01) * try to do that to start with $200/mon and see where that gets us (quaid, 14:13:24) * Gerritt may need a good IO, cf. Jenkins (quaid, 14:17:07) * Gerritt occasional sticking problem due to jetty bug on heavy load; stronger/faster machine will help make this less of an issue; an alternate is to run the less common configuration of Tomcat as a container (quaid, 14:22:28) * IDEA: add cron job that checks if the log contains the jetty error, then recycles the service (quaid, 14:22:59) * IDEA: weekly cronjob to restart jetty (on Saturday) just in case (quaid, 14:25:21) * ACTION: add jenkins job to run remote cmd on gerrit.ovirt.org that will restart gerrit service. requires sudo access for jenkins user on gerrit (eedri, 14:29:57) * ACTION: quaid and RobertM to meet on IRC to narrow down & pick some hosting options (quaid, 14:30:42) * Infra task trackers (quaid, 14:32:28) * ACTION: decide on task trackers on the infra list (quaid, 14:38:41) * Website, CMS, broken search (quaid, 14:38:55) * LINK: https://github.com/github/gollum (garrett_, 14:47:29) * IDEA: Popular enough so the pool of Infra hackers is wide and deep (quaid, 14:48:56) * IDEA: Pool of extensions that we can draw from so we have to invent little to none (quaid, 14:49:50) * IDEA: Github's gollum is a git-backed wiki that is growing in popularity, may work (quaid, 14:52:12) Meeting ended at 15:09:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * add jenkins job to run remote cmd on gerrit.ovirt.org that will restart gerrit service. requires sudo access for jenkins user on gerrit * quaid and RobertM to meet on IRC to narrow down & pick some hosting options * decide on task trackers on the infra list Action Items, by person ----------------------- * quaid * quaid and RobertM to meet on IRC to narrow down & pick some hosting options * RobertM * quaid and RobertM to meet on IRC to narrow down & pick some hosting options * **UNASSIGNED** * add jenkins job to run remote cmd on gerrit.ovirt.org that will restart gerrit service. requires sudo access for jenkins user on gerrit * decide on task trackers on the infra list People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * quaid (87) * garrett_ (60) * eedri (16) * RobertM (13) * itamar (12) * dneary (7) * ovirtbot (6) * mburns (5) * dyasny (3) * cctrieloff (3) * sgordon (1) * clag (1) * agwells0714 (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41

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oVirt weekly meeting cancelled this week
by Mike Burns 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

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vacation next week
by Garrett LeSage 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hi everyone, I will be on vacation next week. You can expect more designs the week following. (There are a few *almost* ready-to-post.) Please feel free to send replies to the design emails, including the design for the new download page (and proposed all-in-one delivery method). I'll read and respond when I return. Thanks! Garrett

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new design: request for comments
by Garrett LeSage 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hello all, Warning: This email is long, but important. I've been working on a new website design for oVirt, and gave folks a preview during yesterday's weekly status IRC meeting. The website mockup is at: http://people.redhat.com/glesage/oVirt/website/mockup-1/ (This is simply a static PNG exported from Inkscape, wrapped in a very simple HTML page. Therefore, don't expect it to scale with your browser, have selectable text, etc.) The mockup has many different sections and updates, and I will explain each change, as well as the thought process that went into each, below. There are two main things to remember about this design: 1) It's a bunch of individual changes that work together. 2) It's a work in progress. Also, the mockup was designed with our target audience in mind: administrators (setting up and running the software), enthusiasts (who may run instances at home), and programmers (tinkering with and contributing back to the project), all with experience using Linux or some form of UNIX. It is also important to note that our audience is specifically _not_ casual desktop users (although they could benefit from someone setting up and maintaining oVirt for them). I'm eager to hear feedback on any and all changes, and work with you to refine everything. When you do provide feedback, and want to discuss more than one point, please limit each email to one aspect of the site at a time. If you'd like to talk about the logo and the site structure, for instance, please send one email specifically talking about the logo, and then another discussing the structure. This should make conversations easier for everyone to follow and make it easier for me to track requested updates. Thanks! == Detailed changes == = Logo = The oVirt logo is actually quite similar. I altered the "o" glyph, to make it more aesthetically pleasing. Comparison graphic between current and new (in simple greyscale, to make it easy to see the difference): http://people.redhat.com/glesage/oVirt/logo/ovirt-logo-proposed.png = Color = oVirt.org, right now, uses a green color throughout the site. The oVirt administration UI also features green in its header. As a result, I've pulled in that green and used it as the primary accent color for the new site design. (It also has the advantage that it is not blue, which is overused for iconography, on the Internet, and for software in general.) = Style = Based on the typeface of our logo and our highlight color, our new style reflects simplicity, openness, vibrancy, and elegance. We can make this style work for both the WordPress and Wiki parts of the site. = Site structure = A revised site structure is hinted at in the front page mockup. You can see this reflected in the top navigation. I did some overall categorization, strongly influenced by Dave Neary's pre-existing work on the topic. You can see a proposed sitemap here: http://people.redhat.com/glesage/oVirt/website/ovirt-sitemap.txt This is a general grouping of types of content, not necessarily a view of the top-level page, or of sub-pages. In some cases, these items would be sub-level pages, in others, they would be part of the navigation page. The documentation page would highlight the best documentation available, regardless of format - e.g. wiki, blog posts, etc. - and also have a prominent link to the wiki. Other sub-pages may also link to the wiki, if there is pertinent information (such as live docs for developers, linked to from the develop section). = Tagline = This is a short, catchy phrase to indicate what the project is all about. Since the target of oVirt is running on a server, most likely in a datacenter, and it's open source, I figured we should make this prominent. Usually taglines are simple and direct, and often have some sort of play on words. "Open your virtual datacenter" can be interpreted in a few ways: 1) You can use oVirt to start (open up) a datacenter with virtualization 2) Take your existing datacenter and virtualize it 3) Use oVirt as an open source solution to manage your datacenter = Supporting lead-in text = It's important to start with some powerful explanatory text to state the overall goal of the project. Usually, this ranges from a phrase to around a sentence or two. I wanted to express the purpose of the oVirt software in a very high-level view, as a hook to get people interested to read more. = Call to action = "Start using oVirt now »" is a call-to-action button. After the simple text explaining what oVirt is, it's important to provide an obvious next step. After clicking the button, it would take the viewer to another page where it provides a quick and simple way to start using oVirt. Naturally, one would have to download oVirt to use it, so it should be super-easy to do on this page. The page should also start a simple step-by-step guide on getting oVirt working on one's own system(s). I'm thinking that this may be, perhaps, simply a link to the "Download & Use" section. Yes, it's in the navigation, but it does provide a very important and clear next step, which helps with a natural-feeling progression for an interested viewer of oVirt.org. (BTW: If the simple guide is too complex, then we need to work at further simplifying the process of setting up oVirt. It's important to try to lower the barrier to entry. Part of this is making sure that oVirt can run on one machine as well, and possibly booting from live USB media for first-time evaluation purposes.) = Front-page sections = Most of text on the mockup is, in some way, based on content from the current oVirt.org website — it's just edited a bit. While most everyone appreciates a clean aesthetic, our primary target group *also* likes to get to the point and see the information right up front. The mockup of the front page that I'm presenting is based on this concept. In addition to being an overview of the project and the software it produces, it also makes it really easy to explore from the content areas to relevant other parts of the website. By bringing the top-level navigation into the context of the overviews, we make it easier for someone to jump to other sections, instead of having to scroll back up to rely on the navigation. The order of the front-page sections is important too. A goal with this design was to: 1) Introduce people to oVirt, with a simple explanation 2) Let people know right upfront that it's an active project (release blurb) 3) Detail some of the most important features 4) Make it clear that it's a community project 5) Provide timely news & a way to easily get more info 6) Publish information on upcoming oVirt-related events (currently, in the mockup, there's filler text for the time being) Items #5 & #6 should both have a way to subscribe so that someone could access this information without visiting oVirt.org. Twitter solves the news component for us; we have to make sure the calendar is able to be subscribed to as well. -=-=- Thanks for reading all of this! I'm looking forward to all conversations, especially if it's constructive (regardless of a positive, negative, or neutral slant). Garrett

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Cancelled: oVirt Weekly Meeting
by Mike Burns 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

A single instance of the following meeting has been cancelled: Subject: oVirt Weekly Meeting Organizer: "Mike Burns" <mburns(a)redhat.com> Location: #ovirt of oftc.net Time: Wednesday, August 29, 2012, 10:00:00 AM - 11:00:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Required: danken(a)redhat.com; oschreib(a)redhat.com; ykaul(a)redhat.com; sgordon(a)redhat.com; dfediuck(a)redhat.com; Jon.Benedict(a)netapp.com; pmyers(a)redhat.com; simon(a)redhat.com; imad.sousou(a)intel.com; aliguori(a)us.ibm.com; lhawthor(a)redhat.com ... Optional: arch(a)ovirt.org; board(a)ovirt.org; menescu(a)cisco.com *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Weekly Sync Meeting for the oVirt Project * This meeting will take place at 10:00 AM EDT and follow US DST. * A call for agenda items will be sent out weekly on Monday or Tuesday Standing Agenda items: * Next Release status * Sub-Project report Required Attendees: * The maintainer or a delegate from each of the core projects (node, engine, vdsm) * Docs representative * QE Representative * Release Manager * Anyone who proposes a topic for discussion for the meeting

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oVirt Weekly Meeting -- 2012-08-22
by Mike Burns 22 Aug '12

22 Aug '12

Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-08-22-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-08-22-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-08-22-14.00.log.html ========================= #ovirt: oVirt Weekly Sync ========================= Meeting started by mburns at 14:00:41 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-08-22-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda and Roll Call (mburns, 14:00:48) * Upcoming Workshops (mburns, 14:03:18) * LC North America is next week (mburns, 14:04:36) * presenters: acathrow jb_netapp abaron mburns (mburns, 14:05:22) * at 93 out of 100 spots full (mburns, 14:05:43) * still looking for board companies to provide reviewers of CFP (mburns, 14:06:44) * please contact lh if you have any questions on CFP (mburns, 14:07:29) * Bangalore workshop is in October (mburns, 14:10:33) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_Global_Workshops (mburns, 14:11:11) * 1 talk proposal for Bangalore workshop currently (mburns, 14:13:16) * still need more presenters (mburns, 14:13:32) * Release Status (mburns, 14:14:27) * we're currently in the planning phase for the next release (call it 3.2 for simplicity) (mburns, 14:14:42) * we need to decide on a target release date (mburns, 14:15:01) * we need to decide on planned features that we're going to track against (mburns, 14:15:21) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Release_Process (mburns, 14:15:34) * we need to finalize release criteria (mburns, 14:15:52) * Release date (mburns, 14:16:27) * proposed target release date is November 14 (mburns, 14:25:10) * not enough maintainers available to make final decision (mburns, 14:25:59) * Release Status (continued) (mburns, 14:26:58) * not enough maintainers around to determine proposed features or to discuss release criteria (mburns, 14:27:17) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/OVirt_3.1_release_management (mburns, 14:28:11) * that is the release criteria for 3.1 release (mburns, 14:28:21) * ACTION: mburns to make release status page for 3.2 release (mburns, 14:28:31) * other topics (mburns, 14:32:49) * not much point doing sub-project statuses when there aren't any maintainers here (mburns, 14:33:11) Meeting ended at 14:37:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mburns to make release status page for 3.2 release Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mburns * mburns to make release status page for 3.2 release * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mburns (77) * lh (15) * RobertM (4) * quaid (4) * dougsland (3) * ovirtbot (3) * rgolan (1) * dustins (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Next Release Planning
by Mike Burns 21 Aug '12

21 Aug '12

Hi all, Now that oVirt 3.1 has shipped, we need to start the planning process for the next release. One of the major topics for this week's weekly sync is to review the release criteria. The criteria we used for 3.1 is laid out on the wiki [1]. I will be posting an equivalent version for the next release in the next couple days, but it will mostly be copy/paste from this page. Please think about release criteria and whether or not we want to add/remove/change things for this release. This needs to be determined now to make sure that the release process runs smoother down the line. Thanks Mike [1] http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Second_Release

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Re: new design: request for comments
by Garrett LeSage 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

On 08/19/2012 10:18 AM, Mike Kolesnik wrote: > I think putting the "search box" in the bottom of the page makes it harder to find & notice. > Usually search is amongst the topmost and/or central elements in the site, as it makes it much easier for people to navigate across the site & locate the information they want. I made a deliberate decision to downplay the importance of search on the mockup for the front page for these reasons: • Someone should be able to easily find the correct content without having to resort to search. • Right now, the form only searches WordPress, which is not very useful. Searching the contents of the is a great thing, however. Solutions for improving search: 1) Combined WordPress + MediaWiki search results. (If it's not easily possible [1], we could consider _only_ searching MediaWiki, perhaps.) 2) Highlight search in the documentation area. Basically, when someone clicks on documentation, it has the most common and useful documentation grouped on the page, and above that, a big search entry (which is prefocused, so one could simply type and hit enter, when visiting ovirt.org/documentation) [1] There are several plugins for integrating the two, but they all seem to focus on embedding, adding comments, or using a single sign-in (which could still be useful for us). I'm currently working on a designs for the sections, and will be including a large search at the top of the documentation page to make sure searching is more prominent. Hopefully this will address your concern. Thanks for your feedback! Garrett

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Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Meeting 2012-08-22
by Mike Burns 20 Aug '12

20 Aug '12

Meeting Time and Place oVirt Weekly Sync * Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC (may change during DST changes) - always at 7:00am US Pacific, 10:00am US Eastern. * To see in your timezone date -d 'WEDNESDAY 1000 EDT' * On IRC: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net This is the agenda for the 2012-08-22 meeting: * Status of Release * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node, infra) * Upcoming workshops If you have other topics, please reply to me and I will add them to the agenda. If you propose a topic, please be prepared to lead the discussion during the meeting. Thanks Mike

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oVirt CFP - promotion and program committee
by Leslie Hawthorn 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hello everyone, Thank you to Jon Benedict and Kyle Mestery for volunteering to sit on the program committee for the oVirt CFP for KVM Forum + oVirt. We are still actively soliciting for members of Board companies to nominate a reviewer for the program committee. Please contact me for more details or to get set up as a reviewer. I'd also like to ask all the Board companies to promote KVM Forum + oVirt via their communications channels. I will be reaching out to the Open Virtualization Alliance for their help in spreading the word, but additional support from Board companies would be greatly appreciated. If folks would find it useful, I can see about getting some boilerplate materials crafted for folks to use in their communications - just let me know. Cheers, LH -------- Original Message -------- Subject: oVirt CFP for KVM Forum + oVirt Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:43:26 -0700 From: Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthor(a)redhat.com> Reply-To: lhawthor(a)redhat.com Organization: Red Hat To: users(a)ovirt.org, arch(a)ovirt.org Hello everyone, FYI.... ================================================================= oVirt Workshop Europe 2012: Call For Participation November 7-9, 2012 - Hotel Fira Palace - Barcelona, Spain (All submissions must be received before midnight Sep 14th, 2012) ================================================================= The oVirt Project is an open virtualization project for anyone who cares about Linux-based KVM virtualization. Providing a feature-rich server virtualization management system with advanced capabilities for hosts and guests, including high availability, live migration, storage management, system scheduler, and more. By open we mean open source& open governance, done right. During this workshop you’ll learn about the technical background and direction of the oVirt project. You’ll meet the developers, and have an opportunity to see and dive into the code right away. The workshop is open to all who want to use, get involved with, or learn about the comprehensive open virtualization management platform, oVirt. The sessions cover the technical projects details, governance, getting involved, usage, and much more. If you have any interest in an Open Virtualization Management platform, this workshop is for you! We are excited to announce that this oVirt Workshop will be held in conjunction with the KVM Forum. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/ The KVM Forum and oVirt Workshop are co-located with the Linux Foundation's 2012 LinuxCon Europe in Barcelona, Spain. oVirt Workshop attendees will be able to attend KVM Forum sessions and are eligible to attend LinuxCon Europe for a discounted rate. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/register We invite you to lead part of the discussion by submitting a speaking proposal for oVirt Workshop 2012. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp Suggested topics: - community use case/stories - roadmaps - deep dives into features/areas - deep dives into code/debugging/tuning - integration and extensions - components: engine, vdsm, node, sdk/cli, reports, mom, guest agent, etc. - subjects: network, storage, vm life cycle, scheduling& sla, gluster, etc. - packaging, installation and distributions - community infrastructure and services SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS Abstracts due: Sep 14th, 2012 Notification: Sep 28th, 2012 Please submit a short abstract (~150 words) describing your presentation proposal. In your submission please note how long your talk will take. Slots vary in length up to 45 minutes. Also include in your proposal the proposal type -- one of: - technical talk - end-user talk - birds of a feather (BOF) session Submit your proposal here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp You will receive a notification whether or not your presentation proposal was accepted by Sep 14th. END-USER COLLABORATION One of the big challenges as developers is to know what, where and how people actually use our software. We will reserve a few slots for end users talking about their deployment challenges and achievements. If you are using oVirt in production you are encouraged submit a speaking proposal. Simply mark it as an end-user collaboration proposal. As an end user, this is a unique opportunity to get your input to developers. BOF SESSION We will reserve some slots in the evening after the main conference tracks, for birds of a feather (BOF) sessions. These sessions will be less formal than presentation tracks and targetted for people who would like to discuss specific issues with other developers and/or users. If you are interested in getting developers and/or uses together to discuss a specific problem, please submit a BOF proposal. LIGHTNING TALKS In addition to submitted talks we will also have some room for lightning talks. These are short (5 minute) discussions to highlight new work or ideas that aren't complete enough to warrant a full presentation slot. Lightning talk submissions and scheduling will be handled on-site at oVirt Workshop. HOTEL / TRAVEL The oVirt Workshop Europe 2012 will be held in Barcelona, Spain at the Hotel Fira Palace. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/kvm-forum/hotel Thank you for your interest in oVirt. We're looking forward to your submissions and seeing you at the oVirt Workshop Europe 2012 in November! Thanks, your oVirt Workshop Europe 2012 Program Commitee Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards @ Red Hat identi.ca/lh twitter.com/lhawthorn

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